Geforce Titan - GK110 will be a consumer part

[tajoh111]

How are these cards going to be anything more then 750-800usd if a 690 goes for 1k?

Besides them just screwing us then gouging on top of that,even two oc'ed 670's could top a 690 for 200 less.
Guess we will see how it goes in a week or so

I think 799 would be a fair price, especially considering there is 6gb of memory on these cards which in the past has added 100 dollars to a cards price tag. Considering all things, these cards probably cost atleast 50 percent more to make than a gtx 690 as the die size is close to double and we all know yields are like for a chip this big. I personally think the gtx 690 is overpriced by alot more than this card, considering the entire last generations MSRP was inflated.

I think cards around or under 300mm2, with 2gb of ram should all be price at 400 and under. And in addition, the price of a 2x version of a GPU should not be double the price, there should be some saving involved.

I don't think it is commercially feasible for Nvidia to continue to sell big monolith chips for 500 dollars like in the past. The R and D and the amount of wafers(plus the price going up) such cards take to produce make it not worth it. Next generation I would be happy to see Gm104 chips selling for 399, gm100 chips selling for 750-800(if the performance difference is 50%) and gm104x2 selling for the same. I want the big monolith cards to continue be sold as consumer cards and I think this means selling these cards well past 500 dollars.

[zalbard]

I personally think the gtx 690 is overpriced by alot more than this card, considering the entire last generations MSRP was inflated.

Absolutely.
Take GTX 480 and GTX 590. Both using enormous dies. $400 and $700 respectively. Now compare that to $500 and $1000...
GTX 285 and GTX 295. Large dies, very wide VRAM bus, complicated PCBs. $400 and $500...
Sigh, I miss those days.

[Olivon]

Considered I bought my 470SOC 209 euros (big phat GF100) 2 years ago, it seems there's a problem with nVidia cards price since 6X0 series.

edit :

Oh Hey, 7970 must be overclocked to 2GHz to overcome TT

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-55910-1-1.html

[aussie-revhead]

Guys, I know this is pure speculation but what would you expect from gtx780 compared to Titan? Similar performance at a 680 price point? Maybe Titan will remain as flagship and 780 might have a more domestic quantity of ram? Who would utilise 6gb of VRAM anyway? Someone with three 2560 screens and increased texture packs? Or will intelligently managed games start using as much VRAM as they have available?

[Pantsu]

It'll require quite a bit to match the Titan. I don't think even a 20 nm GK104-sized Maxwell will reach it. But of course we don't know what size chips Nvidia will release for next gen. It does look like neither Nvidia or AMD will release a proper new high end for desktop before 20 nm.

[bamtan2]

Guys, I know this is pure speculation but what would you expect from gtx780 compared to Titan? Similar performance at a 680 price point? Maybe Titan will remain as flagship and 780 might have a more domestic quantity of ram? Who would utilise 6gb of VRAM anyway? Someone with three 2560 screens and increased texture packs? Or will intelligently managed games start using as much VRAM as they have available?

let me make this easy for you. the gtx 680 replacement will have less absolute performance, but more performance per dollar. this is unquestionable and obvious IMO.

the last thing we need in the next 48 hours is 100 posts about how gtx titan is a waste of money compared to gtx 780 in 10 months. yes guys, we know that

[zalbard]

Maybe Titan will remain as flagship and 780 might have a more domestic quantity of ram?

Most likely the case.
Something like GTX 690 > Titan > GTX 780 > GTX 680.
So something like: 100% > 85% > 70% > 55% (assuming decent SLI scaling).
Just an educated guess, of course.

[Handrox]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Final Specifications and Clock Speeds Confirmed ? NDA Lifts on 18th February

and the lack of a few hours to the end of the NDA does not exist on the site of Nvidia anything related to any launch. Titan is hoax?

[tbone8ty]

More like ares II 7990 > 690 > 780 > 7970 ghz > 680

Lol firestrike!!

[aussie-revhead]

Most likely the case.
Something like GTX 690 > Titan > GTX 780 > GTX 680.
So something like: 100% > 85% > 70% > 55% (assuming decent SLI scaling).
Just an educated guess, of course.

Pretty fair comment but 690 will be gone as Titan will steal its limelight and 790 will be awaiting launch.

Something like GTX 790 > Titan 6GB > GTX 780 4GB > GTX 770 2GB ......

[boxleitnerb]

Not with the rumored 837/876 clocks. The 690 would still be about 30% faster.
I wouldn't expect the GTX7xx line before Q4 and the 790 (if there even will be one) before Q1 2014.

[hurleybird]

Not with the rumored 837/876 clocks. The 690 would still be about 30% faster.
I wouldn't expect the GTX7xx line before Q4 and the 790 (if there even will be one) before Q1 2014.

GK110 is architecturally more advanced than GK104, you can't just forecast it's performance as you would a bigger GTX 680.

[Mungri]

Hmmmm, so will prices be cut on GTX 690s I wonder? And by how much?

[boxleitnerb]

GK110 is architecturally more advanced than GK104, you can't just forecast it's performance as you would a bigger GTX 680.

But what exactly would increase "IPC" so to speak? Larger caches could reduce bandwidth requirements a bit, but aside from that I don't know.

[[XC] Oj101]

Those specs on WFFC are about what I got, but without working Boost.

[cowie]

Those specs on WFFC are about what I got, but without working Boost.

Wasnt the boost broke on the early review samples of the 680 also?

[NapalmV5]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Given the limited numbers too (in addition to it not being performance matched to the 690) I don't see Titan displacing any of the current 600 series. Its faster than a 680 but slower than a 690, so 690 and 680 SLI users have little incentive to buy one (unless theyre desperate to run single card and would take a performance hit to do it). SLI Titans would be badass but the price is likely to be hideous and unless you are playing modded skyrim or hitman etc 2Gb ram is enough.....and 4Gb 670/680 are available much cheaper. Would be nice to have a rare powerhouse of a card though is the only real appeal, and given no one knows just how good the 700 series will be.....hard to drop for me $1200+ per card on something esoteric and 'fun to play with' when I need 2 to not be a downgrade.....

supreme commander was maxing out more like crapping out because not enough vram on 2GB gtx285 at single 1080p 4 years yes 4 years ago

2Gb ram is enough at what ?! benchmarking ? sure.. get on 3GB then youll see how 2GB is enough.. get on 4GB then youll see how 3GB is enough.. get my drift ?

how bout crysis 3 ? max out the cvar configurator and youll need 4GB at single 1080p

as for enough gpu power you can always add more gpu power if needed and its definitely needed

you guys oc/push your systems yet you dont push your apps/games.. you guys expect the developers to come thru?

these fookers are releasing more 32bit/low vram consoles and we are going to be in this ratchet bandwagon for a long time to come

dont agree with me ? dont fret !! ill be enjoying/maxing out every bit of 4 titans on at least a couple dozen games at single 1080p

[aussie-revhead]

Is the "near 690 performance" supposed to be with those low clocks too?

[[XC] Oj101]

Wasnt the boost broke on the early review samples of the 680 also?

I seem to recall something to that effect.

This card is potent, based on what I've seen myself with premature drivers I'm selling my 580s right away.

[boxleitnerb]

[Olivon]

Better quality :



http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2168512087

[bamtan2]

the leaking has begun! that is definitely real.

first impressions are: 6+8 pin, 6gb, 250W+ (the vapor chamber heatsink is huge), and COULD BE 12"+ long. titan is definitely a big baby. only 7990 is 12.5" long, so I'm guessing titan is 11.5"-12", and obviously they want it not beyond 11.5", because some cases are limited to that.

[Handrox]

Thx boxleitnerb and Olivon!

[Stevethegreat]

the leaking has begun! that is definitely real.

first impressions are: 6+8 pin, 6gb, 250W+ (the vapor chamber heatsink is huge), and COULD BE 12"+ long. titan is definitely a big baby. only 7990 is 12.5" long, so I'm guessing titan is 11.5"-12", and obviously they want it not beyond 11.5", because some cases are limited to that.

With 6+8 pin how can it achieve 250w+? Does/did it drop pci-e 1.0 support completely? (not that it would be a problem, but it would be a first for a gfx - I think)

[boxleitnerb]

75W from the PCIe slot, 75W from the 6 pin and 150W from the 8 pin. So 75+75+150=300W