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    I noticed a similar scheduling - CPU tasks were prioritized over GPU. Are your CPU tasks running with "high priority" ?
    Resetting the project didn't help. I enabled detailed logging and found out, that it was a priority issue. Moreover, it scheduled 9 tasks on my 8 CPU threads...
    I had a quite large queue, so I reduced it and aborted some of those CPU tasks (which were overdue anyway) and now it looks OK.
    Seems the new BOINC betas have scheduling issues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    Increase max concurrent maybe? Shouldn't be the cause as gpu should prioritise and get the 2 that you specified for that machine.

    2 cores 4 threads means cpu can use 2 gpu can use 2 whole cores if that is what you want so that would look like this:

    <app_config>
    <app>
    <name>hcc1</name>
    <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
    <gpu_versions>
    <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
    <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
    </gpu_versions>
    </app>

    </app_config>

    If this does not work after you re-start Boinc, post the first few lines of your log (down as far as "not using a proxy")
    still doing the same with your app_config heres the log.
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.42 for windows_x86_64
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Running under account THE1320GOD
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Processor: 256.00 KB cache
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt pbe
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Memory: 7.96 GB physical, 10.96 GB virtual
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Disk: 111.69 GB total, 16.78 GB free
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Local time is UTC -8 hours
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (Cypress) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 5760 GFLOPS peak)
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | OpenCL: ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (Cypress) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 1024MB, 991MB available, 5760 GFLOPS peak)
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | World Community Grid | Found app_config.xml
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 2293278; resource share 100
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | General prefs: from http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/ (last modified 12-Nov-2010 23:19:40)
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Host location: none
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | General prefs: using your defaults
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Reading preferences override file
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Preferences:
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | max memory usage when active: 6114.29MB
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 7337.15MB
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
    2/20/2013 11:12:50 AM | | Not using a proxy





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumak View Post
    I noticed a similar scheduling - CPU tasks were prioritized over GPU. Are your CPU tasks running with "high priority" ?
    Resetting the project didn't help. I enabled detailed logging and found out, that it was a priority issue. Moreover, it scheduled 9 tasks on my 8 CPU threads...
    I had a quite large queue, so I reduced it and aborted some of those CPU tasks (which were overdue anyway) and now it looks OK.
    Seems the new BOINC betas have scheduling issues...
    cant find where to enable detailed logging





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    Needs to be done via cc_config.xml
    Insert something like this:
    <log_flags>
    <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug>
    <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched>
    <cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
    <priority_debug>1</priority_debug>
    </log_flags>

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    Did you move the app_config to the www.worldcommunitygrid.org folder or is it still in the cc_config where you had the app_info?

    This is the path to where you want the app_config C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumak View Post
    Needs to be done via cc_config.xml
    Insert something like this:
    i just save that to note pad, save it as xml and post it in the same place the app_config.xml goes right or am i doing this wrong???
    This is the path i am putting the app_config.xml C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org





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    It seems to have found app_config and the card so I am thinking you need to check your profile in my grid has gpu enabled for this machine and local preferences too (gpu while in use) and local min cache settings of maybe a day. etc.

    Wondering if something went awry during the upgrade so it will do no harm to do all these again, re-start and if you still get nothing do a projects update


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    What Mumak posted goes into the cc_config. Where you originally had the app_info. C:\ProgramData\BOINC\cc_config.xml

    Oldchap correct me if I am wrong. Once he gets this working he should be able to set cpu usage to 1 and then be able to use the other 2 threads for cpu work?
    Last edited by Moo; 02-20-2013 at 12:57 PM.

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    The choice is his. for each cpu thread running he needs a core/thread but for gpu partial threads work too so he can run all cpu cores threads on gpu or maybe one or two on cpu and 2 or 3 on gpu.

    Using the file above we adjust the numbers like this:

    The following would get 2 cpu and 4 gpu threads running at once;

    <app_config>
    <app>
    <name>hcc1</name>
    <max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
    <gpu_versions>
    <gpu_usage>0.25</gpu_usage>
    <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
    </gpu_versions>
    </app>

    </app_config>


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    ok, i put the cc_config here C:\ProgramData\BOINC\ and now it telling me its missing the start tag?? 2/20/2013 1:14:57 PM | | Re-reading cc_config.xml
    2/20/2013 1:14:57 PM | | Missing start tag in cc_config.xml
    2/20/2013 1:14:57 PM | | Not using a proxy
    2/20/2013 1:14:57 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task





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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    The choice is his. for each cpu thread running he needs a core/thread but for gpu partial threads work too so he can run all cpu cores threads on gpu or maybe one or two on cpu and 2 or 3 on gpu.

    Using the file above we adjust the numbers like this:

    The following would get 2 cpu and 4 gpu threads running at once;

    <app_config>
    <app>
    <name>hcc1</name>
    <max_concurrent>6</max_concurrent>
    <gpu_versions>
    <gpu_usage>0.25</gpu_usage>
    <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
    </gpu_versions>
    </app>

    </app_config>
    copied this to notepad,saved as app_config.xml, copied the app_config.xml to C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org, restarted bionic. this is the log.
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Missing start tag in cc_config.xml
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.42 for windows_x86_64
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Running under account THE1320GOD
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Processor: 256.00 KB cache
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 syscall nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt pbe
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Memory: 7.96 GB physical, 10.96 GB virtual
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Disk: 111.69 GB total, 16.69 GB free
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Local time is UTC -8 hours
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (Cypress) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 5760 GFLOPS peak)
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | OpenCL: ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5800 series (Cypress) (driver version 1084.4 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1084.4), 1024MB, 991MB available, 5760 GFLOPS peak)
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | Found app_config.xml
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 2293278; resource share 100
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | General prefs: from http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/ (last modified 12-Nov-2010 23:19:40)
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Host location: none
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | General prefs: using your defaults
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Reading preferences override file
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Preferences:
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | max memory usage when active: 6114.29MB
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 7337.15MB
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | | Not using a proxy
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | Restarting task faah38191_ZINC32800835_1_xh2_xtal_02_1 using faah version 640 in slot 0
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | Restarting task X0960109481123200905051011_3 using hcc1 version 705 in slot 1
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | Restarting task X0960109481132200905051012_3 using hcc1 version 705 in slot 2
    2/20/2013 1:22:29 PM | World Community Grid | Restarting task X0960109481133200905051012_2 using hcc1 version 705 in slot 3
    thanks for the help as well guys. sorry if its something im doing wrong....





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    This is what it should look like.

    <cc_config>
    <log_flags>
    <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug>
    <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched>
    <cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
    <priority_debug>1</priority_debug>
    </log_flags>
    </cc_config>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo View Post
    This is what it should look like.

    <cc_config>
    <log_flags>
    <coproc_debug>1</coproc_debug>
    <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched>
    <cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
    <priority_debug>1</priority_debug>
    </log_flags>
    </cc_config>
    ok that got rid of the no start tag, and now its logging lots of debug stuff. Still no gpu work. Have gpu to always run...
    Last edited by the1320god; 02-20-2013 at 01:50 PM.





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    If all goes well then you can remove that logging if you wish. Just rename the file so it is there for later if you need it


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    If all goes well then you can remove that logging if you wish. Just rename the file so it is there for later if you need it
    it dont bother me, I just want my gpu to start helping out lol





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    Enabling debugging won't bring you the GPU tasks back. It's there so you can check the enhanced debug data and determine why you don't get GPU tasks.
    Close BOINC, start it new, wait a while until tasks are scheduled and started, then post the log and we can have a look at it.

    In my case for example I saw that my GPU tasks were initially chosen to be scheduled, but at a later point they were pushed back because of priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumak View Post
    Enabling debugging won't bring you the GPU tasks back. It's there so you can check the enhanced debug data and determine why you don't get GPU tasks.
    Close BOINC, start it new, wait a while until tasks are scheduled and started, then post the log and we can have a look at it.

    In my case for example I saw that my GPU tasks were initially chosen to be scheduled, but at a later point they were pushed back because of priority.
    i went back to 6.10.58 to see if my gpu would start again, and nope. still nothing... im going to leave it on and go to work. see whats up with it at 11:30pm.





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    app config will not work with Boinc pre 7.0.40.

    Just by the way, did you run gpu with no app info or app config before you tried installing either? If not do it now, then put app config back in as before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    app config will not work with Boinc pre 7.0.40.

    Just by the way, did you run gpu with no app info or app config before you tried installing either? If not do it now, then put app config back in as before.
    it used the gpu before I did a app info. The I did the first one u posted on the thread u started and was doing 2 at a time but not maxing out the cpu. Basically I'm wanting to max out both cpu and gpu. It dont matter how lol





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    Quote Originally Posted by the1320god View Post
    it used the gpu before I did a app info. The I did the first one u posted on the thread u started and was doing 2 at a time but not maxing out the cpu. Basically I'm wanting to max out both cpu and gpu. It dont matter how lol

    I'm getting confused. Are you running 6.10.58 with app_info or back to 7.0.42 with app_config?

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    as of right now my computer is running 6. 58.10. I am at work for the next hour and can't change anything on my computer. When I get home I was planning on the erasing everything and installing7.0 .42 and trying all of this again. Sorry to be so confusing I just reverted back to the older 1 to see if my gpu would start working again lol





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    ok, got it all fix and up and running good on 7.0.42. OldChap, on ur 5870 how many tasks can you do? seems like when i do just 2 and max the cpu which is now a 3770k i lose my internet connection. it also do this with the i3. snooze the gpu and internet comes back? lol





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    I have run up to 9 on the Sandy and Ivy rigs on a 5870 and 6 on a q6600 and 5850 combo.

    When running together with another card which was doing around 16 wu's in 10-11Mins I adjusted the number of wu's running on the slower card to the nearest match to that time which for me was around 11-12-13 mins and 5 or 6 concurrent on the 5870.

    Never lost internet though.

    For the first few days keep an eye on the number of errors and invalids especially if you overclock the cards


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    will do. thanks for the help





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