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    Samsung 840 pro 128 gb, single e raid 0 bench



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    mostruosi.... davvero!

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    FYI - There are a number of reports of problems specifically with the Samsung 840 model SSDs. I don't know the details but you might want to do some research before using these for important data files.

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    The only report I've read about, are some possible TRIM issues. Sweclockers have not been able to redeem fresh performance after writing 1.5TB of random continuos 4kb files, with only a format to trigger TRIM.. Silly way to torture a drive, and anand's torture on drivesize+overprovisoning did not have such issues..
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    Now I just need to see 256GB benches to make up my mind between 128GB or 256GB

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    And then your drives die. There are issues with the Pro's firmware. I'd wait till an update comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ourasi View Post
    The only report I've read about, are some possible TRIM issues. Sweclockers have not been able to redeem fresh performance after writing 1.5TB of random continuos 4kb files, with only a format to trigger TRIM.. Silly way to torture a drive, and anand's torture on drivesize+overprovisoning did not have such issues..
    I don't know all the details yet, but I wanted those interested in this drive to be aware of documented issues before they purchased, not after.

    As far as Anandtech is concerned they and other prominent PC hardware review sites typically get hand picked and even sometimes tweaked products to review due to their large audience. On occasion they even get a new BIOS or firmware to fix issues, while consumers get stuck with the defective BIOS/firmware in shipping hardware. I've seen this before and Asus refused to provide the same BIOS to consumers that they provided to Anandtech. That's unscrupulous and unacceptable IMO. It may even constitute consumer fraud in many locales?

    Many consumers fail to understand that few review sites are going to report issues before consumers confirm the problems. A sample of one by a review site should be taken with a large grain of salt be the review positive or negative. If I had a dollar for every bad mobo, GPU, SSD, etc. shipped, I'd be a very wealthy person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDforME View Post
    I don't know all the details yet, but I wanted those interested in this drive to be aware of documented issues before they purchased, not after.

    As far as Anandtech is concerned they and other prominent PC hardware review sites typically get hand picked and even sometimes tweaked products to review due to their large audience. On occasion they even get a new BIOS or firmware to fix issues, while consumers get stuck with the defective BIOS/firmware in shipping hardware. I've seen this before and Asus refused to provide the same BIOS to consumers that they provided to Anandtech. That's unscrupulous and unacceptable IMO. It may even constitute consumer fraud in many locales?

    Many consumers fail to understand that few review sites are going to report issues before consumers confirm the problems. A sample of one by a review site should be taken with a large grain of salt be the review positive or negative. If I had a dollar for every bad mobo, GPU, SSD, etc. shipped, I'd be a very wealthy person.
    I received the drive with updated firmware, DXMO3B0Q.
    The firmware that had problems was the previous DXMO2B0Q, which was provided in the samples sent to magazines for reviews.
    For now, no problem for me.
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    ^^^ Cool. I hope your SSD is trouble free in operation.

    It's insane that so many SSDs are rushed to market without proper validation. The fact that reviewers got Samsung 840 Pro drives with firmware defects supports my point about the rushed to market mentality. This has happened over and over and over with consumer grade SSDs from most of the popular SSD brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDforME View Post
    It's insane that so many SSDs are rushed to market without proper validation. The fact that reviewers got Samsung 840 Pro drives with firmware defects supports my point about the rushed to market mentality. This has happened over and over and over with consumer grade SSDs from most of the popular SSD brands.
    By contrast, Intel was very slow to bring a SF based drive to market. When they did--well, I have had my Intel 520 SSD since early this year. It came with firmware 400i and that is still the current firmware version. At this point I would actually like to see what a firmware update looks like just for the heck of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st0ned View Post
    Now I just need to see 256GB benches to make up my mind between 128GB or 256GB
    If I wouldn't have reached the limit of 13 allowed attachments, I would be able to present some very good benchmark results done with my brandnew 256 GB Samsung 840 Pro, but you can not really compare them with those unrealistic ones, which were posted by nik58.
    His tests were done with absolutely empty brandnew SSDs, whereas my Samsung SSD is a system drive with Windows 8 x64 and several applications (inclusive MS Office, Windows Defender etc.). Nevertheless my results are a little bit better than nik58 ones done with a single 128 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st0ned View Post
    Now I just need to see 256GB benches to make up my mind between 128GB or 256GB
    In case you haven't seen this review: http://www.servethehome.com/samsung-...hmarks-review/

    I've got my first 4-pack of 256GB Samsungs this week, will check them next week on an LSI controller.

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    My 2 840 Pro 256s get here Tuesday. I'll post up some benches. Those 128s are rockin'!

    Is it safe to say the 128s are pretty much on-par with the 256s?

    If so, that is great, because I need 2 128s for 2 other systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
    In case you haven't seen this review: http://www.servethehome.com/samsung-...hmarks-review/

    I've got my first 4-pack of 256GB Samsungs this week, will check them next week on an LSI controller.

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    Thanks a lot, you are the man ! Please report back about the results with LSI despite I don't have the kind of cash to go for a solution such as yours.

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    So, I've always done 128K stripes. I've noticed intel is now defaulting to 16K stripes.
    Most folks still doing 128K stripes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    So, I've always done 128K stripes. I've noticed intel is now defaulting to 16K stripes.
    Most folks still doing 128K stripes?
    I used 128k stripe.
    I have not tried other values.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fernando View Post
    If I wouldn't have reached the limit of 13 allowed attachments, I would be able to present some very good benchmark results done with my brandnew 256 GB Samsung 840 Pro, but you can not really compare them with those unrealistic ones, which were posted by nik58.
    His tests were done with absolutely empty brandnew SSDs, whereas my Samsung SSD is a system drive with Windows 8 x64 and several applications (inclusive MS Office, Windows Defender etc.). Nevertheless my results are a little bit better than nik58 ones done with a single 128 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD.
    This is the result of as ssd with OS and programs installed.
    I saw the results of the raid 0 to 2x256, and I notice that the 128 are pretty good and essentially maintain performance




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    Quote Originally Posted by Momonishiki View Post
    By contrast, Intel was very slow to bring a SF based drive to market. When they did--well, I have had my Intel 520 SSD since early this year. It came with firmware 400i and that is still the current firmware version. At this point I would actually like to see what a firmware update looks like just for the heck of it.
    It's great that you have not had issues with your SSD but many folks do. Those who don't have issues tend to believe that their model SSD is defect free but often the defects take awhile to show or show only with certain hardware combinations or applications. Some models have more issues than others. Firmware updates usually occur for major Bugs. You can still have issues like capacity loss, deactivated TRIM, etc. which may not be obvious for quite a while. Many folks didn't know that a certain series of SSDs all shipped with TRIM deactivated...

    Keep an eye on your SSD for changes in performance and capacity. This will be a clue that something is amiss.

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    840 Pro is already old and slow for a handful of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highendtoys View Post
    840 Pro is already old and slow for a handful of people.
    The 840 pro is actually intended to be a slower/cheaper SSD not the top of the line in benches. Most people can not tell the minute performance differences in SSD speed without running benches so it's usually best to buy the SSD that fits your budget and that has a good reliability and compatibility history. If you need the latest, greatest trick-of-the-week SSD or other PC component then you should expect to pay top price and be an unpaid beta tester.

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    Huh?
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    LOL - I was just really LOLing. The comment was bad enough but the name with the comment makes me lol for real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momonishiki View Post
    By contrast, Intel was very slow to bring a SF based drive to market. When they did--well, I have had my Intel 520 SSD since early this year. It came with firmware 400i and that is still the current firmware version. At this point I would actually like to see what a firmware update looks like just for the heck of it.
    Intel had/has the pull to get SF to come off their firmware code so they could re-write it together, from what I've been able to deduce. There was NO WAY Intel was gonna launch a problematic SF2200. Imo Intel is quite happy with their combination of high binned nand slathered with their 'secret sauce'. I think we MIGHT see a fw update if 5.0.5 lives up to expectations...ofc it'll take for ever to qualify per Intel's standards.

    Ok...sorry for going off topic fellas.

    I really want to see how the 840Ps perform after they have been dirtied up with few TBs then fill tested. Even tho the above benches were achieved by FOB drives, the 128 is still pretty damn impressive. As u can tell by my sig, I always keep an eye out for 'Best Bang for the Buck' candidates and 2 x 128GB 840 Pros in R0 may be the ticket.
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    Single Samsung 840 Pro 256 gb version, clean drive, no OS yet.






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