Samsung HCH9 at F3-2400C10D-16GTX double sided
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Samsung HCH9 at F3-2400C10D-16GTX double sided
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You're more than welcome to discuss it in this thread!
Those LV/LP sticks are a lot more expensive than the generic HCH9 modules in Germany, in fact you can almost get the 2400CL9 kits for the price of the LV/LP sticks... I'll keep my eyes peeled for whatever pops up in new kits!
That's worse than old HCF0 chips on Z77...
It would be really really nice if you checked the dimensions...
Thanks for the pic, after seeing your kit and SonDa5's 2400CL9 kit it looks like G.Skill gave up on remarking the ICs...
I already linked your thread in the first post!
Got some more sticks with different ic:
F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT -> ...1600... -> Spectec
F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT -> ...2150... -> labelt ic - in the middle of the ic on the right side is -151C to see ??? its not Elpida
F3-10600CL9S-2GBNS -> ...1800... -> Elpida
F3-1600C11S-4GBNT -> ...1800... -> Elpida
F3-8500CL7D-2GBNQ -> ...0800... -> Elpida ???
more to see with pictures the next days
Thanks for the info!
SpecTek is owned by Micron, I thought they made their own chips but it's possible they are just selling off Micron eTT/uTT Chips under the SpecTek brand, which means every SpecTek chip would have an identical Micron counterpart. It might be interesting to check the dimensions of a confirmed Micron 2Gb IC to the SpecTek IC you have.
Please check the "2150" kit next!
The Samsung HYK0s were found by ihog6hog to be in the newer (Nov 2012) GSkill DDR3-2666 CL10 2x4GB kits with IC numbers "2500".Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Link to pic:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5153641
Early samples of these sticks are clocking real well, so I may have to re-evaluate my opinion about the merits of HYK0. Perhaps well-binned ICs on quality PCB does make this a worthy alternative to HCH9 based stuff.
Daniel, looks like you may be right about HYK0, afterall.
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That's what Zeus though as well, and I agree, the lower part of the marking ( the serial number probably ) looks like the one found on Samsung ICs and it has the same amount of digits too. If it's really Samsung it could be K4B1G0846F or K4B1G0846G. I haven't seen either of the two yet, so I don't know about their size or how they clock.
We'll see, but I must say I'm not surprised, the difference shouldn't be big among the different K4B2G0846D ICs, in the end it probably comes down to the binning of the individual stick. If you buy the 2666 CL10 bin you can be sure it's the best of the best, no matter if it's HCH9 or HYK0.
I'm trying to figure out the difference between 1500 and 2500, or 0x00, 1x00 and 2x00 in general, but so far I don't have an idea. At first I thought it might refer to the number of sticks in the kit or if it's a single stick sold separately, but after looking at a few pics it turned out to be wrong.
Okay.
Same generation as MNH/MGH-E Hyper, unfortunately those don't clock like them.
I've added 0800 to the list. Thanks!
Another issue: Do 2100 and 2150 belong together in the x1x0 category or should I put 2100 in x100 and 2150 in x150?
They are different ICs, so probably different categories.
Any info of this Trident 2133 10090650xxxxxx blue pcb? Its probly elpida but not the same clocking like bbse.
Hole on top of sink (probly for pot)
Last edited by Dumo; 11-20-2012 at 04:33 PM.
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Blue pcb is with nanya IC only Never saw this on DDR3 but most on DDR2.
From the OP:
x400 - Hynix
1400/2400In this thread there are pics of the GSkill DDR3-2666 CL11 labels. Both appear to be double-sided Hynix based.Originally Posted by Don_Dan
One is a quad kit with the "2400" number is the 5th-8th and the other is a dual kit with the "1400" numbering sequence. I think that your initial thought that it had something to do with the number of sticks might be right after all, at least with respect to the "1" or "2" digit. Makes me wonder if those "0000" we saw with the early Tridents were cherry-picked review samples and as such, did not have normal production numbers.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...Preview/page10
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I had 2000 c9 trident with blue pcb(0650)and 2133 quad kit with green(0640) - the blue 2000c9 as well as the "normal" 2133 clocked like bbse... needed lots of voltage but had trcd limits that were above average, 2133 7-9-7-21 went on all at around 1,65v, 2250 needed around 1,72v on extra tight subs on sb - on cold went way above 1250 7-9-7 and 8-9-7 on later owner who used them on LN2 for benching. BDSE might be an educated guess, but never saw these ics do well, 2133 was nearly always no go for bdse at trcd9.
@stunned guy - oem elpida with bbse use blue pcb... - and 0650 on old gskill sns is elpida as you know
Thanks for info Websmile
It just won't do Cas8
Last edited by Dumo; 11-26-2012 at 04:29 PM.
All the Trident 2133 I have seen were BBSE, mine are 0640 with green PCB. There might be a theoretical chance for Hyper, but since the blue PCB was used by Elpida for all the OEM BBSE sticks I think this is BBSE as well. I've already seen a few G.Skill sticks with blue PCB ( 1600C7 1GB, 2000C9 1GB & 2GB ) and all of them were BBSE. I can take a pic of my Elpida OEM sticks and we can compare the PCBs if you want.
How do these clock?
BDSE is worse than BDBG, I'm 90% sure BDSE can't do tRCD 9 at 1066MHz.
That's not true, 06x0 indicated Elpida and Elpida and used blue PCBs for all their OEM BBSE sticks. I have 4 1GB sticks with the blue PCB as well, I can show a pic on Saturday.
Yep!
I've excluded 0000 and AB40 from the new list, as they were only used on certain sticks and for a very short time.
Take a look at the pics ihog6hog posted, one 8GB kit is marked 1400, the other one 2500. It doesn't refer to the PCB either, as they look 100% identical.
Yep, you're right. They are different models (one being CL10 and the other CL11), but that shouldn't make any difference.Take a look at the pics ihog6hog posted, one 8GB kit is marked 1400, the other one 2500. It doesn't refer to the PCB either, as they look 100% identical.
Looks like the guessing game continues.
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Yeah show me the picture with the Elpida and blue pcb, thanks
I've posted that same sentiment a couple of times already.Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Oh well, maybe in time it will get sorted out.
But in the meantime I don't see myself spending anymore for high-end GSkill modules with unknown components.
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Imo, usually the first few (initial retail release) batches are the best...for high end ram kit
Just my 2c
I will!
I'm sure we'll figure it out in due time...
I agree with dumo, get them while they're new, now you can be sure about what you're receiving. I wanted to buy a Samsung kit for Christmas, but I think I'll buy it now, who knows if they might change ICs in the meantime.
Hello everyone.
Yesterday I recieved 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 (1.25v) for my new AMD Mini-ITX build.
Sticker says Oct 2012, Week 1242, Full SN: 12421800xxxxxx. I saw on AwardFabrik 11200850xxxxxx.
Hopefully they clock well, I have high hopes for at least 1866 9-9-9 1.5v.
Curious, and surprised after reading that there were Elpida ICs inside, I opened them up... IC reads "U235V8C08A07".
PCB is a 6-layer BrainPower PCB rated for DDR3-1600, B63URCB 0.70. If this stuff is Elpida, I suspect it is EFBG.
I didn't take any measurements, but with my photos I should be able to figure it out after measuring PCB height:
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