AMD FX "Vishera" reviews info (again, after mod mistake)

**Daveburt714** · 10-28-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by leo5111

well for me its encodeing videos and stuff like that

If encoding is important to you (like it is for me

), the 83xx would be a decent upgrade...

Here's a SS of my best 81xx chip using x264 bench (OC'd to max stable):

I'm still working on max clocks for the 8350 (there may be a little more in it), but here's what I've gotten so far with this chip...
FWIW, These clocks Prime Blended for ~30 minutes without failure!:

Granted, 2.5 FPS while encoding isn't super impressive, but that can actually add up when crunching some HD video...

The other nice thing is that power consumption is ~90w lower even with the higher OC...

Long story short, the 81xx-83xx isn't as big as the jump from the PH1 (9950) to the PHII (965), but it's still a nice improvement!

Considering the price, and your usage, I'd say it's a worthy upgrade...

**BeepBeep2** · 10-28-2012, 10:02 PM

Impressive Dave. I'd like to see how high you can get 4 hours of P95

That whole 2.5 FPS is about 8% and 10-20% lower power consumption? Sounds like a winner to me.

**FlanK3r** · 10-28-2012, 10:22 PM

You right Dave, I saw lower power after OC FX-8350 than with OC my FX-8150...

**Rollo** · 10-29-2012, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

but if the competing desktop option that does leaps and bounds better in that 40%, is equal in another 30% with lower power consumption, and 10-15% worse performance in the last 30%, I'm not going to be happy with the product for several reasons.

This pretty much sums up Vishera. Unsuitable for gaming, a mixed bag on business apps, and double the power because it's on a 32nm die (vs 22nm for IB) and has to be run at higher base clocks due to lower IPC.

It's sort of like the old NVIDIA FX5800 Ultra, a chip OCd out of the box to compete. I keep coming back to "Why the He!! didn't they shrink Thuban six core chips to 32nm and sell them at 4GHz when they saw what Bulldozer/Vishera is?!?!"

That chip would have used less power, and outperformed Vishera 95% of the time.

**Mechanical Man** · 10-29-2012, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by Rollo

This pretty much sums up Vishera. Unsuitable for gaming, a mixed bag on business apps, and double the power because it's on a 32nm die (vs 22nm for IB) and has to be run at higher base clocks due to lower IPC.

It's sort of like the old NVIDIA FX5800 Ultra, a chip OCd out of the box to compete. I keep coming back to "Why the He!! didn't they shrink Thuban six core chips to 32nm and sell them at 4GHz when they saw what Bulldozer/Vishera is?!?!"

That chip would have used less power, and outperformed Vishera 95% of the time.

I doubt it would have clocked. Llano is pretty much thuban cores and those wont clock that good either.

**EniGmA1987** · 10-29-2012, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

What about the FX-8120 @ 4.5GHz? To show how much encoding fps you get compared to last gen of the processor.

**Yeroon** · 10-29-2012, 07:27 AM

I doubt it would have clocked. Llano is pretty much thuban cores and those wont clock that good either.

Not entirely true, if Llano was based off of the stars core, that makes sense it don't clock. Also, trinity has PD cores and doesn't clock at all the same compared to vishera.

**cezar** · 10-29-2012, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

Granted, 2.5 FPS while encoding isn't super impressive...

... because x264 FHD benchmark is a little bit outdated

**Mechromancer** · 10-29-2012, 03:30 PM

I went Intel this round and got a 2600K (for $199) with a P8Z77-V Pro mobo. I have to say I prefer AMDs' platform through and through. If I were to build a gaming rig today, it would be with this 8350. AMD has done an excellent job tuning this uArch.

**SKYMTL** · 10-30-2012, 06:58 PM

No idea how this ended up away from the New section but.....

FX-6300 and FX-4300 review is live w/overclocking and clock vs clock against Thuban & Deneb: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...00-review.html

**richierich** · 10-30-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

No idea how this ended up away from the New section but.....

FX-6300 and FX-4300 review is live w/overclocking and clock vs clock against Thurban & Deneb: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...00-review.html

Awesome, thanks!!!

**Andi64** · 10-30-2012, 07:17 PM

SKY, it's Thuban, not Thurban :P

**SKYMTL** · 10-31-2012, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Andi64

SKY, it's Thuban, not Thurban :P

TRUE! Thanks for that.

**cezar** · 10-31-2012, 05:08 AM

ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula-Z (990FX) Review ft. Vishera FX-8350 on Phase Change

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-rog...nge/17574.html

**Olivon** · 10-31-2012, 12:38 PM

Does Windows 8 Help Improve Bulldozer's Performance? - Tom's Hardware

Our testing shows that the FX-8150’s performance doesn't change much at all in the shift from Windows 7 to Windows 8.

**FlanK3r** · 10-31-2012, 01:28 PM

lol, phase cooling as my lowend liquid cooling

...

**cezar** · 10-31-2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

lol, phase cooling as my lowend liquid cooling

...

**informal** · 10-31-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

lol, phase cooling as my lowend liquid cooling

...

Maybe you should give them some tips

.

**Jethro** · 11-01-2012, 04:10 AM

The 6300 is a beast when overclocked for sure. Love the power consumption as well. No doubt what my next cpu will be now! Thanks Sky!

P.S. my cpu will never see 76c

**Manicdan** · 11-01-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jethro

The 6300 is a beast when overclocked for sure. Love the power consumption as well. No doubt what my next cpu will be now! Thanks Sky!

P.S. my cpu will never see 76c

do you have some tests? id really like to see a review of its gaming and power consumption while OCed compared to other options.

EDIT, im an idiot, reading the canucks review now
EDIT #2, didnt see much results after OCing. really want more post OC comparisons.

**Shocker003** · 11-01-2012, 06:05 AM

Is someone running the FX 8350 @5.0Ghz for 24/7 use . I can boot at 5.1Ghz with 1.54v. but any speed above 4.7Ghz with 1.47v. is unstable with my chip

.
NB:
I need help/advice and am new to the Crosshair 5 UEFI BIOS.
Temp. is not a problem atm, watercooled setup. Thanks in advance

**Jethro** · 11-01-2012, 06:28 AM

I would not mind more test as well. I am glad it's as fast or faster then thuban when overclocked. I sold my thuban's to play with the fx cpu's. Looking forward to upgrade again.

For the record my fx4100 @ 4.75 is fine for gaming just excited to try PD.

**FlanK3r** · 11-02-2012, 12:46 AM

next review:
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages..._review,1.html

first post updated again

**Rollo** · 11-02-2012, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by FlanK3r

next review:
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages..._review,1.html

first post updated again

That review only compares Vishera to Bulldozer.

I don't think many people bought Bulldozers, so doesn't that limit the audience the review is useful for?

**SKYMTL** · 11-02-2012, 04:20 AM

Looks like they also forgot to disable V-Sync in the Skyrim inf file....

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