Plextor M5 Pro: an other step forward

[Gilgamesh]

Plextor debuts this month with Marvel 9187 and Toshiba Toggle nand 19nm.

http://www.expreview.com/20579.html



prices in line with M3P

[Anvil]

Looking forward to reviews!

Looks like I've already got a few SSDs based on the new Marvell 9187 controller.
(should be very interesting to see how Plextor handles "storage mode" vs the V4)

[johnw]

(should be very interesting to see how Plextor handles "storage mode" vs the V4)

Hopefully there is no "storage mode". That whole thing is a gimmick I can do without.

[felix_w]

prices in line with M3P

Thank you! Can you give more info on the speculated prices ?

EDIT : 1099 CNY = 140€ Is that price correct ?

[Gilgamesh]

Looking forward to reviews!

Looks like I've already got a few SSDs based on the new Marvell 9187 controller.
(should be very interesting to see how Plextor handles "storage mode" vs the V4)

I prefer Plextor "good old style": writes always on top in any fill condition.

I'm happy with my Corsair P. Pro 128GB, but I want an 256GB (or two

I hope for 5 years warranty for M5 Pro, also.

Thank you! Can you give more info on the speculated prices ?

EDIT : 1099 CNY = 140€ Is that price correct ?

Vat excluded

128 GB = 140 euro
256 GB = 294 euro
512GB = 639 euro

But I think prices will go in line with M3 Pro, in any case, high end.

[Zaxx]

+1...With any luck the whole perf/storage thing is a product of the Indilinx fw. Fingers crossed.

Now that SF has fixed trim, I can't wait to see all the review updates of the various SF toggle drives that have been without trim since the toggle required the trimless SF 5 Series base fw...they couldn't just stick with the earlier 3 series fw with trim like Ocz and others did. Some vendors knew that series 5 trim was broke but the released it anyway cuz it yielded a performance bump over the old base fw. Some vendors are gonna push out the initial fixed FW (5.0.3) asap but a lot will prolly wait for 5.0.4 which is said to be in testing.

Here's a great read about it...

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/48...ted/index.html

[UranusFX]

M5P will start selling.

+ 7mm height
+ 5years warranty

distributor still not uploaded yet.
http://www.links.co.jp/item/px-128m5p/
http://www.links.co.jp/item/px-256m5p/
http://www.links.co.jp/item/px-512m5p/

Price, 11,980JPY 21,980JPY and 37,980JPY.

CrystalDiskMark3 score has arrived.
http://www.gdm.or.jp/pressrelease/201208/03_07.html


and EXPreview inside/CDM3/PCMark/FastCopy/IOMeter etc...
http://www.expreview.com/20640-all.html

[Gilgamesh]

Really impressive.
Anyone knows if new Toshiba toggle ddr 19nm are 3000 cycle writes?

[felix_w]

Don't know about P/E , but this is excellent :

Plextor M5P 256GB AS-SSD.png

[Highendtoys]

WTF es! Stop talking about this until the reviews come out. No one should ever break an NDA

Mine gets here Monday but there is a true NDA in place for Tuesday.

[johnw]

no one should ever sign an nda

fyp

[dctokyo]

WTF es! Stop talking about this until the reviews come out. No one should ever break an NDA

Mine gets here Monday but there is a true NDA in place for Tuesday.

Are you mad ? There is no NDA here in Japan and it is already selling in Japan, I just got a PX-256M5P for 21,980 yen a couple of hours ago for my new rig.

[UranusFX]

I just got a PX-256M5P for 21,980 yen a couple of hours ago for my new rig.

I'm expecting ASU's score

[johnw]

Are you mad ? There is no NDA here in Japan and it is already selling in Japan, I just got a PX-256M5P for 21,980 yen a couple of hours ago for my new rig.

Plextor is such a strange company. They don't even officially list the M5P on their Asia website yet, despite the fact that they are already selling M5Ps in Japan:

http://www.goplextor.com/asia/index.php/ssd

[dctokyo]

Plextor is such a strange company. They don't even officially list the M5P on their Asia website yet, despite the fact that they are already selling M5Ps in Japan:

http://www.goplextor.com/asia/index.php/ssd

Yep I agree, here are some more pictures

[johnw]

Yep I agree, here are some more pictures

Nice pics! You are making me jealous, I cannot buy an M5P yet in the USA.

Do lots of stores in Japan have the M5P? Or is it hard to find in Japan?

[kaktus1907]

any power consumption figure? backside of the drive says 1.5A@5V, i find it rather high..

[Zaxx]

Looks like we finally get to see if the perf/stor modes are an 'Indilinx Infusion'. Also curious as to the controller clock speeds as well to see if Ocz is the only one to overclock it. Glad to see 19nm toggle out...I read a few months ago that the 20nm IMFT would be the first out of the gate and that Tosh was a bit behind Intel. Looks like a little disinformation was goin on. SF based 19nm drives shouldn't be far off now that the Series 5 fw is fixed...5 is required to run the 19nm toggle. Can't wait for the all the 19nm reviews to start rolling in!

[icecpu]

When will this drive available in the U.S ?
I almost bought the M3P at newegg .

[UranusFX]

M5P are many (popular) online-shops has still in stock, immediately available for purchase.



I think also be easy to purchased outside Asia too.
SSD users are saturated. There was also a Ninja selling for a week.

I had to stock up M5S. Take a break for a while.

[Callsign_Vega]

Anyone know if this drive will hit the US for sale this week?

[Highendtoys]

It launches tomorrow in the US. The 4K numbers in the set from the store are weak. It is actually much faster. I would say those numbers were ran on a system with heavy C-States enabled. The drive does over 100MB/s 4K write.

Now really, could anyone from TweakTown actually be mad about an NDA lead, lol. I was just giving you a hard time.

I personally can't say much until tomorrow but you guys will want to read the article for sure. I'm wrapping up fill testing now. The Marvell controllers have always ran a low slower than SF when the drive is half full...not so much of an issue now.

Also Zaxx, if you saw my news story from Computex about 19nm Tosh and 20nm IMFT you would know that 19nm Tosh was ready back then. 20nm IMFT was....well not looking so good. Now that I'm running power draw in my testing I have to say Tosh is the way to go 100% of the time.

[johnw]

IThe Marvell controllers have always ran a low slower than SF when the drive is half full...not so much of an issue now.

I've always been skeptical of that data since the only tests tweaktown runs on the SSDs when they have some data is PCMark Vantage, and the compressibility of the data that PCMV writes is not well-specified.

It would be better if instead of (or in addition to) PCMV, tweaktown ran ASU with 100% incompressible data, or AS-SSD, on the drives when they are 25%, 50%, and 75% full, etc.

It would be interesting to see how AS-SSD and ASU benchmarks vary as the SSDs are filled up.

[Highendtoys]

I've always been skeptical of that data since the only tests tweaktown runs on the SSDs when they have some data is PCMark Vantage, and the compressibility of the data that PCMV writes is not well-specified.

It would be better if instead of (or in addition to) PCMV, tweaktown ran ASU with 100% incompressible data, or AS-SSD, on the drives when they are 25%, 50%, and 75% full, etc.

It would be interesting to see how AS-SSD and ASU benchmarks vary as the SSDs are filled up.

The problem with those tests are they show peak performance and not average performance. Peak numbers don't tell you anything other than the best possible outcome. The next PC Mark will be a lot different and will aid in what I'm doing. Then there is the my own trace based tests, as soon as I can convince Bus Trace to send me the software I'll start thinking about building my own PC Mark HDD tests and call it ChrisMark

[johnw]

The problem with those tests are they show peak performance and not average performance. Peak numbers don't tell you anything other than the best possible outcome.

Wrong. The ASU and AS-SSD numbers do tell you something. They tell you what will be the sequential read and write speeds, 4K read and write speeds, etc. when they are measured with a 1GB test file of random data (AS-SSD) or a 1-32GB test file of 100% incompressible, 0% incompressible, etc. (ASU, depending) under the conditions that they are run for the SSD. They tell you EXACTLY what you will find under those conditions.

Unlike PCMV, which is a black box. Under some unspecified conditions, writing some unspecified type of data, out will pop some number that has no meaning in itself.

I'll take AS-SSD or ASU results, which I can understand, over PCMV results, which are totally opaque, every time.