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    Quote Originally Posted by SabreWulf69 View Post
    OCZ are kicking arse in sales... they would never be bought out...
    I bet you can 'kick arse' and sell 1 trillion dollars in sales, if you sell 100 dollar bills for $99.
    Doesn't mean its a good business.


    Quote Originally Posted by SabreWulf69 View Post
    WD should buy them. Or Intel. Or NVIDIA.
    Ha, how much OCZ stock do you own??
    You should take a tour of Intel/NVidia's engineering departments. Then take a tour of OCZ's.
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    WD and Seagate apparently only remain on the market.Monopoly is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zads View Post
    I bet you can 'kick arse' and sell 1 trillion dollars in sales, if you sell 100 dollar bills for $99.
    Doesn't mean its a good business.




    Ha, how much OCZ stock do you own??
    You should take a tour of Intel/NVidia's engineering departments. Then take a tour of OCZ's.
    /Facepalm. Have you actually been to OCZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_chill View Post
    Search the net, there are many people having problems with Intel 520, and this is after coming off Intel's 330. I too started having problems with it after 6months/2TB write, my system started randomly freezing, sometimes for 30 seconds, ruining any DVDs I was burning, and sometimes completely needing to press the reset button.
    I am now on Vertex 4 and everything works great.
    Sandforce is just Broke.
    If you search the net you'll find problems with all vendors, because they do exist. They key here is the number of them. OCZ has problems, Intel has problems, but statistically both companies just can't be compared.

    For the record my 330 has 2.5 months/1.37TB writes/3.22TB reads and works just like when I installed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidkozat View Post
    First Maxtor now OCZ?? Please NOOO!!

    Loved the Maxtor HDD,

    Hate WD, Seagate, Samsung (had problems will all of this)

    Hitachi are the most reliable HDD for me.

    currently have 6 OCZ Agility 3 in raid 0 their are awesome!!
    Seesh, Maxtor drives? Seagate Baracuda drives before the Maxtor acquisition were pretty much the industry standard. 5 Year warranty - even if the drive changed owner, etc...Their quality dropped like a rock shortly after they bought Maxtor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain665 View Post
    /Facepalm. Have you actually been to OCZ?
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    This move may appear to be a good thing to some people, but if it goes through, we'll see new SSDs once every three years (when Seagate figures they've milked us enough for each generation). Similar to their current strategy of sitting on their 4TB SAS drives while they milk the 3TB drives SAS hard, enjoying the boost in price that the floods in Thailand has conveniently provided. Maybe they'll even encourage component manufacture in the low lying areas to provide a new bounty every few years (now that they've seen the benefits floods can provide to their bottom line).
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    Tinfoil hat much?

    Do you have any idea how much money those floods cost them? Yeah, prices aren't back down to where they were beforehand partly because they lost millions in destroyed drives, manufacturing equipment, etc. Drives costing more for a while after that kind of catastrophic loss shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. I don't think they are "enjoying" the aftermath of the flooding at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Tinfoil hat much?

    Do you have any idea how much money those floods cost them? Yeah, prices aren't back down to where they were beforehand partly because they lost millions in destroyed drives, manufacturing equipment, etc. Drives costing more for a while after that kind of catastrophic loss shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. I don't think they are "enjoying" the aftermath of the flooding at all
    How much did it cost them? Probably not that much if an insurance claim was made. Even if a claim weren't made, I think think the sharp increase in drive prices would cover much of, if not all of their losses and then considerably more beyond that. Considering that initially, the marked up drives were produced prior to the flooding, their profit on those drives would be enormous. There were a few supply related issues, but overall the boosted profit from drives produced prior to the flood, combined with the boosted profit being enjoyed on drives that were produced after the flood would more than compensate them for the small actual window where no drives were being produced. IMHO, the flood will continue to be used as an excuse for high drive prices, long, long after the actual impact due to the flood has passed (from now to the end of the year at least). With prices remaining nice and high, Seagate is highly unlikely to release their long-awaited 4TB SAS drives, which incidently, Hitachi neglected to release as well when the Ultrastar 7K4000 was launched (was SATA only).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I don't think they are "enjoying" the aftermath of the flooding at all
    I think they do: http://www.isuppli.com/memory-and-st...ket-in-q1.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    I find it interesting that they claim the ASP will remain elevated "throughout 2012 and 2013". Proof positive that HD makers plan to continue to use the flood as an excuse for high prices for a long time to come, long after any operational impact due to the floods has past (which I would think has long past already). I think that overall, the HD makers will come out way ahead, and hence the justification for my first post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zads View Post
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    so you have toured our UK, Taiwan and Korean labs also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lutjens View Post
    This move may appear to be a good thing to some people, but if it goes through, we'll see new SSDs once every three years (when Seagate figures they've milked us enough for each generation). Similar to their current strategy of sitting on their 4TB SAS drives while they milk the 3TB drives SAS hard, enjoying the boost in price that the floods in Thailand has conveniently provided. Maybe they'll even encourage component manufacture in the low lying areas to provide a new bounty every few years (now that they've seen the benefits floods can provide to their bottom line).
    I doubt it because OCZ isnt the only SSD maker in the world.
    If Seagate buys them and decides to milk it by releasing a new model every 3 years they would only hurt themselves. Cause their competition in the SSD market wont stand stil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    I doubt it because OCZ isnt the only SSD maker in the world.
    If Seagate buys them and decides to milk it by releasing a new model every 3 years they would only hurt themselves. Cause their competition in the SSD market wont stand stil.
    True enough, but there was a significant degree of sarcasm in that statement. However, OCZ is one of the largest SSD makers and if Seagate were to buy them, they'd likely significantly slow down the rate at which new products are released. This would either encourage other SSD makers to slow down as well (sort of a mutual slowdown) or put OCZ behind. Considering the potential for increased profits to be gained by a slowdown, I'd think the first option is the most likely. One thing's more certain though...I'm certain Intel would be onboard for a slowdown. They milk their products for all they're worth for as long as they can...
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