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    Seagate may buy OCZ!

    This would be fantastic news for Ocz...fingers crossed!

    'The marriage of convenience would also serve OCZ quite well. The company will benefit from Seagate’s vast resources and avoid quite a few issues. On some occasions OCZ found itself in the rather awkward situation of being unable to meet demand. That they could sell more drives that they could churn out, but having a big cash cow behind it would definitely help overcome such issues.'


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    seagate buying anyone is not good, look at the quality of mechanical "samsung drives" over the last year. ocz was basically dead to me with the sandforce controller and i was looking at the new indi controller as something that i could get behind but under seagates name i will have no of it.
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    At least the quality control of both companies would match up together nicely.
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    yeah no thank you, i would rather wd or hatachi buy ocz (if they were to be bought that is).
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    Are the new Seagate / F3's really that bad?
    I put one of the more recent 500GB Seagate drives in my girlfriend's build, has been running strong for upwards of a year now.

    I have had 2 WD drives fail, one Blue and even one Black, which internally is equal to an RE drive.

    The last HDD I bought was a Hitatchi DeathStar, haven't had any death yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    seagate buying anyone is not good, look at the quality of mechanical "samsung drives" over the last year. ocz was basically dead to me with the sandforce controller and i was looking at the new indi controller as something that i could get behind but under seagates name i will have no of it.
    What has happened with samsung hard drives since the acquisition?

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    lmao @ the notion of anyone remotely interested in buying OCZ..

    no really though, whoever bought all the options on OCZ last week to do a pump and dump, just own up to it. Ryan?
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    1 year warranty on ocz drives sounds about right

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    Quote Originally Posted by zads View Post
    lmao @ the notion of anyone remotely interested in buying OCZ..

    no really though, whoever bought all the options on OCZ last week to do a pump and dump, just own up to it. Ryan?
    You'd be surprised - OCZ's enterprise market is extremely successful.

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    Lots make the mistake of thinking Sandforce issues = Ocz's fault...couldn't be further from the truth.

    Why buy Ocz? Umm...cuz they make, sell and offer more SSDs than anyone else afaik. I bet that Seagate got a good inside look at the upcoming Indilinx Barefoot 3 as well. The enterprise related capabilities are gonna be very substantial as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxx View Post
    Lots make the mistake of thinking Sandforce issues = Ocz's fault...couldn't be further from the truth.

    Why buy Ocz? Umm...cuz they make, sell and offer more SSDs than anyone else afaik. I bet that Seagate got a good inside look at the upcoming Indilinx Barefoot 3 as well. The enterprise related capabilities are gonna be very substantial as well.
    Their Indilinx and jmicron drives were just as bad. My original vertex was a nightmare. Their quality control is pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zads View Post
    lmao @ the notion of anyone remotely interested in buying OCZ..
    Why not? OCZ make their own SSD controllers these days, sure if you paid them enough they would probably allow you to use their controllers in your SSDs, but that doesn't get you the Knowledge, established R&D Team, Patents and so on, plus OCZ is still a relatively "cheap" company to buy compared to some of the other companies that have SSD Controllers like for example Micron.

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    LOL..... not many companies can afford to buy Micron, but I guess that was your point

    OCZ also have decent PSUs. PCP+C -> OCZ-> Seagate. Unexpected evolution of branding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxx View Post
    Lots make the mistake of thinking Sandforce issues = Ocz's fault...couldn't be further from the truth.
    I have an Intel Sandforce and it kicks some serious ass. Same performance as all the other Sandforce drives out there with none of their problems. Let's hope it stays like this.
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    Seagate desktop drives are pretty good in my experience. Similar with their laptop drives.
    WD makes good desktop drives. I won't touch their laptop drives however, pieces of junk always going bad.
    Hitachi is the general opposite of WD. Can't make a desktop drive worth anything, but their laptop drives are pretty decent.

    This is all my experience and working in the field with these various drives all the time.

    I've never cared for OCZ stuff (too many QC issues in the past from everything I have come across) so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out IF they do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    At least the quality control of both companies would match up together nicely.
    but ocz has a nice RMA department now, and the psus are ok for low wattage units.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Are the new Seagate / F3's really that bad?
    I put one of the more recent 500GB Seagate drives in my girlfriend's build, has been running strong for upwards of a year now.

    I have had 2 WD drives fail, one Blue and even one Black, which internally is equal to an RE drive.

    The last HDD I bought was a Hitatchi DeathStar, haven't had any death yet.
    i do not know about the f3 other than they are slower, but the f4eg is crap now for speed and reliability,

    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    What has happened with samsung hard drives since the acquisition?
    they have been shipping slower drives and the 5400rpm have been less reliable, most of the time when 5400rpm drives are not reliable it is from using failed 7200rpm drives. seagate was known to have done with the 5900rpm line so doing it with samsung drives should be what is going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I've never cared for OCZ stuff (too many QC issues in the past from everything I have come across) so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out IF they do this.
    That's another way Seagate could improve Ocz...I'm sure they have massive validating, testing and QC resources compared to Ocz


    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    I have an Intel Sandforce and it kicks some serious ass. Same performance as all the other Sandforce drives out there with none of their problems. Let's hope it stays like this.
    Actually Intel's 520 SandForce firmware + the use of cherry picked 25nm synch nand = the fastest SF2281 based drives and even beats a lot of SF + Toggle drives. Afaik Intel is the only outside entity ever allowed inside SF's firmware and they rewrote the fw with SF's assistance. Intel got to keep it's 'secret sauce' part for itself but shared the stability/compatibility fixes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K404 View Post
    LOL..... not many companies can afford to buy Micron, but I guess that was your point
    Exactly.

    Just saying, OCZ is currently probably the tastiest target for a takeover if it comes to SSDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain665 View Post
    You'd be surprised - OCZ's enterprise market is extremely successful.
    Enough to make OCZ profitable?

    Quote Originally Posted by naokaji View Post
    Why not? OCZ make their own SSD controllers these days, sure if you paid them enough they would probably allow you to use their controllers in your SSDs, but that doesn't get you the Knowledge, established R&D Team, Patents and so on, plus OCZ is still a relatively "cheap" company to buy compared to some of the other companies that have SSD Controllers like for example Micron.
    To which OCZ-specific SSD controller are you referring?
    The only actual value that OCZ has, is (what's left of) the Indilinx team.
    But who knows, the CEO is definitely a 'sales guy'- maybe he can talk up his company to some potential buyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zads View Post
    Enough to make OCZ profitable?
    Yes, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    At least the quality control of both companies would match up together nicely.
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    never had an issue with OCZ, from vertex vanilla - 4.... hmmm
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    Suprised nobody mention the source of the article.

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    Journalists don't like to name sources...

    There is plenty of buzz tho...both company's stocks are up...Ocz by 22%.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=seagate+ocz
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