Raid0 and TRIM Support on Intel 11.5 OROM and Latest v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers ?

[DooRules]

I posted this on the asus rog site to see if anyone knows about the RIVE and a possible update bios. Thanks Fernando for the update.

[Nizzen]

The mainboard manufacturers ASRock and GIGABYTE have published the first X79 mainboard BIOSes with the ability to flash an Intel RST RAID ROM of the v11.6 series. A user named snout, owner of a GIGABYTE G1.Assasin X79 board, just has verified, that TRIM is working within his X79 RAID0 system after having flashed the new BIOS containing the Intel RAID ROM v11.6.0.1702. For details you may look >here<.

Now I just need a modded new Gigabyte x79 Ud7 beta bios

[MaxOC]

Good news also for people with 6 series MB. It has been confirmed that trim can be enabled by modding the latest Intel orom. Details the thread on Anandtech which I think was mentioned earlier.

[squawker]

i'd like to thanks to Fernando, Dufus/CPL0, Snout and others for the amazing work on this subject and hope this would stimulate Intel to give raid0 TRIM command for SSD users of all their platforms that support it and not only the most recent ones.

[gvansly1]

Good news also for people with 6 series MB. It has been confirmed that trim can be enabled by modding the latest Intel orom. Details the thread on Anandtech which I think was mentioned earlier.

All the work that has been done here is truly appreciated, especially for people like myself, that do not have the skills you all have, but still have the passion to see our systems run to their fullest potential!

With that said, my head still hurts from all the info and miss-info from forums around the World regarding the whole RAID / TRIM support for the X79 chipset.

And due to my lack of thorough research, I unfortunately have a New Egg order on the way that includes the Sabertooth X79 MB, Intel i7 3820, and 2 OCZ Vertex 4 (256) SSDs.

So, my options as I see them:
1) Return one of the drives.
2) Keep both, using one for storage and HOPE an RSTe update is released by Intel soon.
3) Refuse the shipment and reorder an i7 3770k and ASUS P8Z77, that will allow RAID/TRIM support.
4) Other ideas.....

I'd really like to keep the board as the new Ivy Bridge-E that is supposed to be released Q3 2013 would fit nicely in the Sabertooth socket 2011, while the 1155 (ASUS P8Z77 mentioned above) socket is phased out. So, IF it is possible for someone to walk me through the process mentioned in this forum that would allow me to keep my NewEgg order as is, and take advantage of a RAID with TRIM it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks/Danke.

[Brahmzy]

In th big scheme of things, most modern SSDs in R0 do fine with no TRIM. It's nice to have, but I'm not giving up my 2600K OC and spending a ton of money to get it. IB gives me nothing over my current SB setup.
Haswell will be here in April. That's when I upgrade.
Honestly, I'd wait for Haswell, but you haven't told us your current setup. What do you currently have?

[gvansly1]

Well again I failed to do the legwork, and just read about the Haswell today but the release date is "sometime" 2013, and what sparked my spending spree was Newegg offering the OCZ Vertex 4 for $159....$90 off their regular price of $249.....So, I took the leap and ordered what I posted earlier, not knowing that the MB would not support the TRIM in RAID......With that said............
My current system has the 1366 i7 980x running on an EVGA X58 chipset. The Newegg order i7 3820... based on AnandTech benchmarks is an even swap compared to the 980x, but the ASUS X79 has pcie 3.0, an SATA improvements. I know I should have done more reseacrh b4 jumping into the fire, but now that I'm here I'm trying to get the best out of what I have and have the options stated in my previous post, with one more that I failed to think about:

5) Send one of the SSDs and the i7 3820 back, and get the i7 3930k......

[Ourasi]

In th big scheme of things, most modern SSDs in R0 do fine with no TRIM. It's nice to have, but I'm not giving up my 2600K OC and spending a ton of money to get it. IB gives me nothing over my current SB setup.
Haswell will be here in April. That's when I upgrade.
Honestly, I'd wait for Haswell, but you haven't told us your current setup. What do you currently have?

Well, now you can have the cake and eat it to, I've just confirmed TRIM-raid0 on P67 with an orom modded by Fernando: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=102
If you need it, i'll replace the orom on the bios of your choice, no problem at all..

[Nizzen]

That is just EPIC!
Now check the x58 for trim raid-0 too

Thank you! Nice job

[Ourasi]

That is just EPIC!
Now check the x58 for trim raid-0 too

Thank you! Nice job

If I had an X58 on hand, I'd check it myself. I'll pick up the oroms for the different chipsets as soon as they get TRIM-confirmation, and mod the bioses when people ask for them.. We have to stick together against that Intel DRM.. :P

[Brahmzy]

Well, now you can have the cake and eat it to, I've just confirmed TRIM-raid0 on P67: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=102
If you need it, i'll replace the orom on the bios of your choise, no problem at all..

PM sent!

[Ourasi]

Here is your bios: http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?ap...tach_id=509420

[Brahmzy]

Great news Ourasi! TRIM IS WORKING on my P8P67 Deluxe Vertex 3 240 RAID0 array. I have verified 5 or 6 times using the hex editor. No reboots, no recreating the array. Just instaneous. I tried 3 times before flashing your BIOS and a definite no-go - hex showed stuff was still there. I waited 2-3 minutes and it didn't happen. I flashed your BIOS, re-setup all of my settings, tested again and voila - the hex editor showed an immediate TRIM job - like 5-6 times, each time successfully and immediately.

Awesome work! I owe ya one!

[Ourasi]

Sweet, no longer degraded arrays for you either, nice... I will rate the bios I made for you as "Tested and TRIM-working", so others with the same board knows it's working.. SF drives are nice to test TRIM+HxD with, since the TRIM is immediate, while some others like C300 (tested myself) only marks it for deletion/TRIM and then TRIM it at shutdown/reboot and possibly logoff/on, quickformat-TRIM on the otherhand is immediate.

[Brahmzy]

FWIW, I have the following mobos and each has the same output from the SATAID tool:
P8P67
P8P67 Deluxe
P8P67 M
Controller ID: 2822
Alternate ID: 1C04

[zoson]

Hey guys, I have a rampage 3 extreme and I modded the latest 1601 bios with the 11.6.0.1702 Intel sata/raid firmware.

I can confirm that raid 0 trim is working on x58.

I had to use the latest RST 12.0.0.1013 beta driver from station-drivers because I couldn't get the rapid storage utility to load on any of the others, but I would guess that any driver that supports trim would trim the drive.
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

[Fernando]

Hey guys, I have a rampage 3 extreme and I modded the latest 1601 bios with the 11.6.0.1702 Intel sata/raid firmware.
I can confirm that raid 0 trim is working on x58.

Since the Intel RAID ROM v11.6.0.1702 natively doesn't support TRIM in RAID0 for any other than 7-series and C600-series (X79) chipsets, I would like to know how you have modified the Intel ROM module and how you have verified, that TRIM is actve within your RAID array.

[zoson]

since the intel raid rom v11.6.0.1702 natively doesn't support trim in raid0 for any other than 7-series and c600-series (x79) chipsets, i would like to know how you have modified the intel rom module and how you have verified, that trim is actve within your raid array.

3A16 0000 07
I figured out how to do this by following the information in:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2281849

Edit: Looks like you're one of the main posters in that thread. Hadn't noticed till now. But yeah the LPC ID for my controller is not the 3A25 as reported in that thread by other x58 users.

Also figured I'd point out that my controller does NOT show up in device manager as "82801JIR (ICH10R) SATA RAID Controller"
Mine shows up as "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller"

[Fernando]

3A16 0000 07
I figured out how to do this by following the information in:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2281849

Thanks for this very useful information.
Can you post some screenshots, which verify, that TRIM really works within your RAID0 after having flashed the BIOS with the modified ROM module?
That may be useful for other users with an X58 RAID0 system, who would like to get TRIM support too.

[Sylver123]

Hi zoson

I also use a ASUS Rampage 3 Extreme and the latest 1601 bios with the Intel OROM 11.6.0.1702.

We would appreciate it if you could verify for us, post proof that RAID0 TRIM is definitely working
on our board since doing the Intel OROM module modification. Could you also please post a
screenshot showing the hex code modification you did on the Intel OROM module for our board.

I have two SSDs in RAID0 on this board.

Thank You.

[zoson]

Verification:



I just make a text document at C with unique text and search. Then delete the txt file.
I think it's easier than using a jpg and less chance of duplicate text.

[Sylver123]

zoson, Any chance you could please post a screenshot showing the actual hex code modification that you did
on the Intel OROM module for our board just like others have done in the thread on AnandTech so that us that
are not really familiar with using a hex editor knows exactly what FLAGS (hex code pairs) to change to what?

Or if you could share with us your modified Intel OROM 11.6.0.1702, that would be great.

Also what OS are you using to do your tests?



Thanks a lot.

[Sylver123]

zoson, have I got this modification correct, exactly 100% the same modifications you made?

Screenshot:


This is my first time trying this and so don't know whether i've done it correctly or not.

By the way, I take it your test you posted above always failed, TRIM not working before you
did the hex code modification to the Intel OROM module?

[Fernando]

@ Sylver123:

Before you are trying to flash any BIOS with a modified Intel RAID ROM module, you should read >this< statement from Dufus at AnandTech Forum regarding the TRIM test done by zosan.

[Ourasi]

I have to agree with you Fernando, and Dufus, that looks not TRIMMED to me either.

I'll hand out some advice when it comes to using .txt files for TRIM-testing. This is an example on what to write in the txt file:


Then it will look like this before delete/TRIM in HxD:


And after delete/TRIM when it's working:


Always search for the text in the middle of the .txt file, in my case "Betty er snill", as then you'll find the blocks and offset in the middle of the file, and after TRIM the whole viewable page is cleaned out in HxD.. Fill an A4 page atleast, so the file is a decent size...

Happy Trimming fellas... :P