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    Vertex 4 F/W 1.3 vs 1.4 across ich10r, pch, Areca 1261 and 1880 and ...

    Good evening all,

    Just getting started here - looks like drives were delivered with F/W 1.3 -







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    Vertex 4 128GB (f/w 1.3) initial runs on 2600k/m4e @ stock - on pch - (2xR0 is at 64K stripe (thanks JR)).





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    nice stuff, man i wish i had a few of these to play with! these new marvells are UBER...
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    Marvell or marvel

    I ordered last night, normally takes 2-3 days, could be here Friday or Saturday.
    (I did go for the 256GB, could be an interesting compare)
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    ^^ Nice!, yes that will be a good compare.

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    I will post some more results in a couple hours - looks like the vertex 4 has a conflict with the areca 1880.
    Tried 2xR0, tried as pass through, tried with ncq and all read/write aheads turned off - same result - tries for a while then drops the drive.
    Lets hope this is fixed in 1.4



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    Nizzen had issues on fw 1.3, I don't think he got to try 1.4. (impatient )

    Did it fail as a single drive as well?
    (in that case I could try one of mine as mine are already on 1.4)

    I don't think it's worth playing much with 1.3 though.

    It looks like Plextor M3P is the closest competitor to the V4 128GB.
    I'll post some benchmarks I ran last night on my X79 a bit later. (2R0 Plextor M3P 128GB on fw 1.03)
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    ^^ sounds good - below is 1x Vertex 4 (f/w 1.3) on ich10r non-Raid (should act the same as ahci, giga x58 exteme with 920@4) -

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    Below is 2xR0 Vertex 4 (f/w 1.3) on ich10r, wbc on (64K stripe, giga x58 exteme with 920@4) -

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    Below is 2xR0 Vertex 4 (f/w 1.3) on Areca 1261 2GB cache (4k stripe, 2600K on m4e no oc) -


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    nice results steve.

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    The old Areca is doing just fine

    Are you cleaning the drives between each run and are you consistently using small partitions?
    (I'll duplicate the tests as close as possible)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    Nizzen had issues on fw 1.3, I don't think he got to try 1.4. (impatient )

    Did it fail as a single drive as well?
    (in that case I could try one of mine as mine are already on 1.4)

    I don't think it's worth playing much with 1.3 though.

    It looks like Plextor M3P is the closest competitor to the V4 128GB.
    I'll post some benchmarks I ran last night on my X79 a bit later. (2R0 Plextor M3P 128GB on fw 1.03)
    I had problems with 4 V4s. No problems with 2 as far as I remember. I did not try 3... Problem with 4 v4s was confirmed by OCZ. And as far as I know, the problem is not fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    The old Areca is doing just fine

    Are you cleaning the drives between each run and are you consistently using small partitions?
    (I'll duplicate the tests as close as possible)
    Yes, I am using 10GB partition sizes, standard 4k cluster but not cleaning.
    Waiting 5 minutes or more between tests but not cleaning.
    More power to you Mr. Anvil if you are cleaning between each test!

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    Upgrading from f/w 1.3 to 1.4 either works or it doesn't.
    I could not get the toolbox to update on x58/ahci at all - it would say it was done and successful but after reboot - still 1.3.
    On P67 I had no problem, each drive updated the first try.

    Looks like updating is worth it though - here is 1x Vertex 4 128GB f/w 1.4 on pch, ahci -




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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post
    Yes, I am using 10GB partition sizes, standard 4k cluster but not cleaning.
    Waiting 5 minutes or more between tests but not cleaning.
    More power to you Mr. Anvil if you are cleaning between each test!
    I was just asking whether you did , I normally do try to do a quick format or something if I'm testing FOB performance.

    Here's the Plextor M3P, looks like the Plextor is stronger on reads and the V4 is doing a little better on writes.
    (this was on 2011/RIVE using a 3 series driver so it's not a direct comparison to your testing)

    ATA PLEXTOR PX-128M3 SCSI Disk Device_128GB_1GB-20120606-0147_SPI.png

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    This is something I'm playing with right now, it's not set so no point in looking at scores.

    It's a Vertex 4 256GB, almost full. (what I call almost full)

    ATA OCZ-VERTEX4 SCSI Disk Device_256GB_1GB-20120606-2336_preview.jpg
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    ^^ extreme edition, interesting!

    Below is 2xR0 Vertex 4 (f/w 1.4) 64K stripe - pch - wbc on, 2600K on m4e.

    Seeing some interesting drops in Atto - most obvious in 16K and 32K reads - maybe due to ssd internal ram cache not keeping up with the bench?

    Still though - seems like great performance for just 2x128's.

    Looks like the new firmware gives up a little in reads and gains a lot in writes? (however, 4MB sequential read stays same or higher)

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    Looks like the Vertex 4 128GB is still broken on the Areca 1880 even at 1.4 F/W - -



    Config is 2xR0 Vertex 4 (f/w 1.4) 4k stripe with areca settings as follows -






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    Vertex 4 (f/w 1.4) continues to play well with Areca 1261 -I hope a future f/w update will fix the drives for the 1880 -


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    So it's still not playing with the 1880, I'll check the LSI 9265 when I get more drives. (ETA Friday)

    Hopefully they'll fix it shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    So it's still not playing with the 1880, I'll check the LSI 9265 when I get more drives. (ETA Friday)

    Hopefully they'll fix it shortly.
    I waited since the first day they came.. And still waiting. It took Crucial 6 months to fix they`re problem, so do not expect faster fix from OCZ :p

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    The new drives were already on 1.4, so it looks like a new batch.

    Incompatibility with some of the most popular raid controllers is no good, I'm expecting a quick fix.
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    ... and the fix might be here already

    interim fw 1.4.1.3

    A two step update (read the first post in the link)

    Improvements since version 1.4:
    Enhancement: Improved RAID card compatibility.
    •Fixed: Corner case issue where drive would not resume from S3/S4 properly.
    •Fixed: Rare issue where some platforms would not respond correctly after a cold boot.

    I'll be updating shortly.
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