7990 1ghz edition to debut at computex 2012

[tbone8ty]

7990 or 7970 X2

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ekran-ka...-calisiyor.htm

1ghz edition

expected price ~$849

[Manicdan]

can someone translate that better than google. half the sentences were still in turkish

[LeoAndrade]

This seems pretty real for me. Those white circles on the pcb can reveal something about the ref. cooler

[Lanek]

can someone translate that better than google. half the sentences were still in turkish

A bit better with MS translator . (let the soft do his work )
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...-calisiyor.htm

( when i say a bit better, dont expect a lot much )

This seems pretty real for me. Those white circles on the pcb can reveal something about the ref. cooler

The photo is not a 7990, it is an HD6990, they have just use it for illustrate the article. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6990-review/5

[Manicdan]

2x full 7970s, with higher clock than OEM 7970s, will really shut up some of the fanboys i hope.

[iboomalot]

looks fun

ATI better have 10,000 of these ready to ship if the price is $850 to make up for the 680/690 lack of product.

next gabe needs a water block for it too.

[bro20000]

Hope these oc well under chilled water my next card.

[BeepBeep2]

Well, I heard a 7970 GHz Edition at 1050 core was going to come too.

Not surprised.

[Mats]

This really shows how close the two GPU's are in terms of both performance and performance/watt.
Edit: When the 7970 is overclocked to 1050 MHz.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/V...dition/28.html

[Chickenfeed]

If they do infact release at $850 thats quite fair. Given the 7970s are likely to settle in the $400 range, paying a $50 premium for 2 gpus in 2 slots and at higher clocks at that, is a fair deal, much better than 2 underclocked 680s for the same price as 2 full boards ( in fairness the cost of the high end reference design probaley increases the price a bit )

That said I won't be shocked if its using dual 8 pin and sounds like a leaf blower (I've owned both a 4870x2 and 5970 and they both failed in this department) I'd love to be pleasently surprised for a change.

[Manicdan]

This really shows how close the two GPU's are in terms of both performance and performance/watt.
Edit: When the 7970 is overclocked to 1050 MHz.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/V...dition/28.html

i think whats really going to matter is 2560 or multi screen setups only, and if amd gets drivers fixed for a few titles, this could really shine where 2gb isnt enough anymore.

[tajoh111]

I will be more than happy if they are willing to make a 450 watt cards+ for the same reasons that I would be happy to seem them make a big monolithic card. For extreme cards, I hardly care for wattage, unless its summer time and if I didn't have air conditioning, as long as it isn't as bad as say the gtx 480(2 gtx 480 on a single card means a dead card running at high heat). I do care about noise though because the 4870x2 I have is a damn leaf blower. I hope both AMD and Nvidia, if they are going to charge us 800+ plus for cards, are not being held back because of power limits.

At 850 dollars, as long as they sort out CF issues, it will be a better card than the gtx 690 simply because of pricing. 1 grand for a dual gtx 680 is ridiculous considering the die size and only justifies it's price based on supply.


Something tells me we should wait and see though before we get our hopes up. The power characteristics of a fully enabled tahiti don't seem good enough to make 2 1000mhz cards on a board unless there is going to be a massive jump in power consumption(which I don't mind to an extent), I just hope it isn't a leaf blower. Something tells me we are not going to see 1 ghz stock and it will require a switch like the 6990.

[paulbagz]

Is this an AMD reference card or a partner custom design?

-PB

[Mats]

i think whats really going to matter is 2560 or multi screen setups only, and if amd gets drivers fixed for a few titles, this could really shine where 2gb isnt enough anymore.

Yeah well I meant compared to 680, on single 2560.

[Callsign_Vega]

Hopefully they will have plenty of these to go around at launch. Lord knows AMD has had enough time. I will try and pick two up to run my 5x portrait overclocked Catleap project. Toss a couple of EK blocks on these 7990's and hopefully be able to get the whole quad-fire config up to 1250+ MHz core.

[DilTech]

I will be more than happy if they are willing to make a 450 watt cards+ for the same reasons that I would be happy to seem them make a big monolithic card. For extreme cards, I hardly care for wattage, unless its summer time and if I didn't have air conditioning, as long as it isn't as bad as say the gtx 480(2 gtx 480 on a single card means a dead card running at high heat). I do care about noise though because the 4870x2 I have is a damn leaf blower. I hope both AMD and Nvidia, if they are going to charge us 800+ plus for cards, are not being held back because of power limits.

At 850 dollars, as long as they sort out CF issues, it will be a better card than the gtx 690 simply because of pricing. 1 grand for a dual gtx 680 is ridiculous considering the die size and only justifies it's price based on supply.


Something tells me we should wait and see though before we get our hopes up. The power characteristics of a fully enabled tahiti don't seem good enough to make 2 1000mhz cards on a board unless there is going to be a massive jump in power consumption(which I don't mind to an extent), I just hope it isn't a leaf blower. Something tells me we are not going to see 1 ghz stock and it will require a switch like the 6990.

The other possibility is if it's a new stepping. That can drop the power draw a bit.

[Stevethegreat]

Can someone explain to me why this generation's dual cards are 50% more expensive than any other generation's. Yeah they're made from "full" cards but that would explain a 10% increase not 50%. Is it my idea or Graphic cards have become a luxury item much more than they used to be?

There was a time you could buy a respectable card close to the $100 mark and at $600 you were buying top of the top (dual or single). Now it's more like $250 and $1000 respectively. Is it because people do not buy as many GFX cards as they used to therefore the two companies charge a premium, or is it the plain old "bleeding us dry" cartel behavior?

[LeoAndrade]

@Lanek: oops, my fault

[highoctane]

Can someone explain to me why this generation's dual cards are 50% more expensive than any other generation's. Yeah they're made from "full" cards but that would explain a 10% increase not 50%. Is it my idea or Graphic cards have become a luxury item much more than they used to be?

There was a time you could buy a respectable card close to the $100 mark and at $600 you were buying top of the top (dual or single). Now it's more like $250 and $1000 respectively. Is it because people do not buy as many GFX cards as they used to therefore the two companies charge a premium, or is it the plain old "bleeding us dry" cartel behavior?

My guesses would be for whatever reasons the current market is willing to pay that price in enough volume that they will continue to ask that price and two would be 28nm still not being a high volume process so high pricing is a mechanism to soften overall demand.

It doesn't matter if its a 690 or a 7990 I don't think either company has plans to flood the market with these units.

The way I see it AMD might as well of priced their card the same as Nvidia, at such a high price the cost probably isn't the critical factor when deciding which one to get.

[paulbagz]

Well if this is reference then someone might want to get a hold of Rollo

I stand by everything I've said in this thread and would like to see anyone prove otherwise. I'll also put up a bottle of Patron to the first person who wants to take the bet that AMD can't launch a 7990 with two full 7970 core at 1000MHz.

-PB

[Rollo]

Well if this is reference then someone might want to get a hold of Rollo



-PB

Too late now. I'll still be VERY surprised if this is true.

You guys should have more faith in AMD, take my bets. Patron is tasty!

I'll modify the "surprised" to "surprised and impressed". Still wouldn't be as good as a 690, but at $850 it doesn't have to be.

AMD and NVIDIA are laughing all the way to the bank this gen- $850 - $1000+ video cards in the midst of the worst recession since the depression?! Not a bad upward shift in the market pricing slots for dual GPU cards.

OTOH I wonder if anyone is making more money with 28nm yields.

[WangChung]

Can someone explain to me why this generation's dual cards are 50% more expensive than any other generation's. Yeah they're made from "full" cards but that would explain a 10% increase not 50%. Is it my idea or Graphic cards have become a luxury item much more than they used to be?

There was a time you could buy a respectable card close to the $100 mark and at $600 you were buying top of the top (dual or single). Now it's more like $250 and $1000 respectively. Is it because people do not buy as many GFX cards as they used to therefore the two companies charge a premium, or is it the plain old "bleeding us dry" cartel behavior?

It's because all of us willing to live on the bleeding edge have the "shut up and take my money" mindset. We've shown that we are willing to pay the money, so that's what they charge. There are cheaper cards for the budget minded or mainstream gamer, but cards like these are built for people with 1 or more 30" monitors and benchers. If I were to replace my year old rig with something, it would be based on two of these and water cooled. I just really hope they get the drivers on point, but that's always the wish isn't it?

[DilTech]

It's because all of us willing to live on the bleeding edge have the "shut up and take my money" mindset. We've shown that we are willing to pay the money, so that's what they charge. There are cheaper cards for the budget minded or mainstream gamer, but cards like these are built for people with 1 or more 30" monitors and benchers. If I were to replace my year old rig with something, it would be based on two of these and water cooled. I just really hope they get the drivers on point, but that's always the wish isn't it?

These cards actually have another purpose... The guy who likes to buy the best of the best once every 3-5 years (or whenever it just doesn't cut it any more), then builds a whole new system again. There are plenty of people out there who look at things this way. I mean, outside of missing DX11, a GTX295 is still more than capable of playing everything out, and it's a 3 year old card. Even the 9800GX2 is probably somewhere around GTX460 performance levels (meaning still playable). To some, buying once and getting years of enjoyment out of it is worth the price of admission.

Going that route using dual-gpu cards is generally one I advise against though, because honestly I don't trust driver support to be there a few years down the line for newer titles to work properly with sli/CF. I can't really speak from experience, but I wouldn't be surprised if either NV or AMD camp multigpu from a few generations past is missing support for a few big titles.

[FlanK3r]

nice!
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[LordEC911]

Too late now. I'll still be VERY surprised if this is true.

You guys should have more faith in AMD, take my bets. Patron is tasty!

I'll modify the "surprised" to "surprised and impressed". Still wouldn't be as good as a 690, but at $850 it doesn't have to be.

AMD and NVIDIA are laughing all the way to the bank this gen- $850 - $1000+ video cards in the midst of the worst recession since the depression?! Not a bad upward shift in the market pricing slots for dual GPU cards.

OTOH I wonder if anyone is making more money with 28nm yields.

Why would anyone take your bet? You would find a way to worm out of it...

Way to throw the yield issue in there and make it sound like others are having problems.