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    Lg’s most powerful lte smartphone unveiled in korea

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    SEOUL, May 17, 2012 –- The Optimus LTE II from LG Electronics (LG), the world’s first smartphone offering 2GB RAM for optimal LTE connectivity, speed and stability, will be available in Korea starting this week, the company announced today.

    The Optimus LTE II’s 2GB DDR RAM, offering an optimal environment for multitasking and running large applications, blurs the line even more between smartphones and portable computers such as laptops and netbooks. The device’s 4.7-inch True HD IPS display is a bright 550 nits with a resolution of 1280 x 720 pixels. The Dual-Core Qual-comm one-chip solution incorporates both the LTE modem and Application Processor (AP) for advanced power efficiency.

    Key Specifications:
    • Chipset: 1.5GHz Dual-Core (Qualcomm MSM8960)
    • Display: 4.7-inch True HD IPS Display (1280 x 720)
    Memory: 2GB DDR RAM, 16GB Internal Storage,
    Micro SD support (up to 32GB)
    • Camera: 8MP rear-facing, 1.3MP front-facing
    • OS: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
    • Battery: 2,150 mAh SiO+, Wireless Charging Support Available
    • Others: WiFi (802.11 a/b/g/n), Bluetooth 4.0 LE, MHL, NFC,
    USB 2.0 HS, DLNA
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    Specs look great but its stil an LG.
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    Looks a lot nicer than the fugly rounded SG3.

    But, it's also still an LG. 5 of 6 LG devices I've owned have failed.

    They goofed two phones, a dvd player, a tv and a PVR. The only thing that works is the microwave. I'll probably have mutant children and find out it was broken too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    Specs look great but its stil an LG.
    what is wrong with lg, they are bad at updating but always leave the bootloader unlocked or a way to unlock it easily. they also make most of the screen and touch sensors in the phones with good screens (aka not amoled)
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    I like the fact it's dual core..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    (aka not amoled)
    May I ask what's wrong with amoled?
    I mean I have an old samsung galaxy s, but once I calibrated the screen I made the whites to be white the blacks to be black and everything in between to be equally accurate. It makes every new screen look poor by comparison despite my phone's old age. Plus when I'm using a black background I extend my battery by a lot. Also I have no bleeding and it doesn't seem to break easily...

    I'm asking because I hear a lot of shmack about amoled lately. Do you even know what amoled is capable of if its used correctly? From what I see movie buffs would kill for such a big screen, so what makes it "bad" when it's a smaller one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    what is wrong with lg, they are bad at updating but always leave the bootloader unlocked or a way to unlock it easily. they also make most of the screen and touch sensors in the phones with good screens (aka not amoled)
    This. And they have better construction quality compared to many Samsungs out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mele View Post
    What not a QuadCore???? Fail!
    It's the new Krait Snapdragon dual core. It's usually as fast and faster than Nvidia's tegra 3 quad core... and Krait gets far better battery life.
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    How does adding 2GB of ram make LTE faster and more stable? That should be a network issue not from a phone needing 2GB of RAM to take advantage of network speed.
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    No size... so probably a 70mm width mobile... I miss the times when phone where actually the size of phones... 70mm is way to large to consider it a phone...as much as i dislike apple, they have the right size for a phone <60mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    what is wrong with lg, they are bad at updating but always leave the bootloader unlocked or a way to unlock it easily. they also make most of the screen and touch sensors in the phones with good screens (aka not amoled)
    You answered your own question.
    They are extremely bad at updating, it usually takes them ages to come with promised updates and when they do those are usually pretty bad.
    They also suck at communicating with the customer.

    I got an Optimus speed 2x, its construction quality is pretty good (far better then Samsung), it has a great screen and i got it for a great price when it was new.
    When it got released with Froyo it was far from smooth and an GB update was promised soon after release (april/may). The update ofc didnt come in april or may and they then gave some random promises on when it would come. In the end the GB update came at the year and tbh was rubbish, i think it was april or may this year that they finally came with a good GB update. They promised an ICS update but are ofc very vague on when exactly (they can really learn something from other companys when it comes to communication).

    This doesnt matter ofc if you dont mind flashing ROMS from XDA. The ROMs from XDA are usually superior and they are faster with updates, been using a very smooth ICS rom for a good while now but ofc not everything works a 100%. For everything to work perfectly the people on XDA wil have to wait for an official ICS rom from LG.
    The issue i have is that you shouldnt have to go to XDA to get a decent rom, there are other companys that do manage to bring decent updates within a normal amount of time.

    There are people that dont mind flashing roms from XDA, there are enough people that go there even if the stock rom is good.
    But there are lots of people that dont like buying a phone that runs like crap when it comes out of the box and you have to wait ages for it to become decent. And its not like LG is a small company, i know of a lot of people who wil never buy another LG phone because of stuff like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    No size... so probably a 70mm width mobile... I miss the times when phone where actually the size of phones... 70mm is way to large to consider it a phone...as much as i dislike apple, they have the right size for a phone <60mm
    This: http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascen...ad_xl-4569.php is the only quad phone I know close to the 60mm mark. Too bad few knew about it, it's faster with larger battery as well compared to the new galaxy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    No size... so probably a 70mm width mobile... I miss the times when phone where actually the size of phones... 70mm is way to large to consider it a phone...as much as i dislike apple, they have the right size for a phone <60mm
    Oh no, 1 whole cm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevethegreat View Post
    May I ask what's wrong with amoled?
    I mean I have an old samsung galaxy s, but once I calibrated the screen I made the whites to be white the blacks to be black and everything in between to be equally accurate. It makes every new screen look poor by comparison despite my phone's old age. Plus when I'm using a black background I extend my battery by a lot. Also I have no bleeding and it doesn't seem to break easily...

    I'm asking because I hear a lot of shmack about amoled lately. Do you even know what amoled is capable of if its used correctly? From what I see movie buffs would kill for such a big screen, so what makes it "bad" when it's a smaller one?
    amoled (without the +) uses a pentile so it is missing blue sub pixels, it runs around 30% less pixels and 50% less data than the resolution it says it is. the other problem is that since it is missing pixels the back light has to make up for it, and having blue missing then the backlight has to run all the time to make up for the lack of blue pixels by running the back light at 6.5k or 7k in the light range instead of the neutral 5k that they are supposed to be. super amoled+ dose not need the backlight for low brightness and uses 5k for the back light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    You answered your own question.
    They are extremely bad at updating, it usually takes them ages to come with promised updates and when they do those are usually pretty bad.
    They also suck at communicating with the customer.

    I got an Optimus speed 2x, its construction quality is pretty good (far better then Samsung), it has a great screen and i got it for a great price when it was new.
    When it got released with Froyo it was far from smooth and an GB update was promised soon after release (april/may). The update ofc didnt come in april or may and they then gave some random promises on when it would come. In the end the GB update came at the year and tbh was rubbish, i think it was april or may this year that they finally came with a good GB update. They promised an ICS update but are ofc very vague on when exactly (they can really learn something from other companys when it comes to communication).

    This doesnt matter ofc if you dont mind flashing ROMS from XDA. The ROMs from XDA are usually superior and they are faster with updates, been using a very smooth ICS rom for a good while now but ofc not everything works a 100%. For everything to work perfectly the people on XDA wil have to wait for an official ICS rom from LG.
    The issue i have is that you shouldnt have to go to XDA to get a decent rom, there are other companys that do manage to bring decent updates within a normal amount of time.

    There are people that dont mind flashing roms from XDA, there are enough people that go there even if the stock rom is good.
    But there are lots of people that dont like buying a phone that runs like crap when it comes out of the box and you have to wait ages for it to become decent. And its not like LG is a small company, i know of a lot of people who wil never buy another LG phone because of stuff like this.
    i have used smart phones for a long time and every time once the phone is not a top seller at the store the updates do not come when they should, then a year latter the updates never come out. so to me having a good device that is open is worth alot more than one that gets regular updates for the 1st year then is closed. it would not be so bad if we got phones when they came out in the US since euro devices normally get 2-2.5 years of support but by the time we get them you are lucky for a year and a half most of the time. the updates that are covered in the vendor and carrier junk are also something that i hate so that makes me want an open device even more.

    i am looking foreword to having a nexus device on each vendor though, that would let you get something with the hardware you want and proper driver/kernel support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post

    i have used smart phones for a long time and every time once the phone is not a top seller at the store the updates do not come when they should, then a year latter the updates never come out. so to me having a good device that is open is worth alot more than one that gets regular updates for the 1st year then is closed. it would not be so bad if we got phones when they came out in the US since euro devices normally get 2-2.5 years of support but by the time we get them you are lucky for a year and a half most of the time. the updates that are covered in the vendor and carrier junk are also something that i hate so that makes me want an open device even more.

    i am looking foreword to having a nexus device on each vendor though, that would let you get something with the hardware you want and proper driver/kernel support.
    Not all manufacturers work that way and its not like the LGs are the only phones that are open, the issue is mostly getting everything to work in the unofficial ROMs.
    I cant remember the last time i have had a branded phone but most providers overhere stopped branding most of their models cause they noticed that it is to much work (and i gues they noticed that they lost a lot of customers to 3rd partys). But even if the providers here stil branded all their phones it wouldnt be a problem cause id just get a new contract from a 3rd party cause they never use branded phones.

    I myself wil probably trade in my Optimus for a Sony Xperia P or wait and hope that some version of the Hayabusa comes to Europe.

    If LG phones arent a hit its probably because of the small amount of returning customers. Its not asif they are the only manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    Oh no, 1 whole cm.
    It does feel a lot in the hand, though. Use a Nexus and then an iphone for some time and 1cm in *width* may be the greatest difference you may feel (the difference in OS included)...

    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    amoled (without the +) uses a pentile so it is missing blue sub pixels, it runs around 30% less pixels and 50% less data than the resolution it says it is. the other problem is that since it is missing pixels the back light has to make up for it, and having blue missing then the backlight has to run all the time to make up for the lack of blue pixels by running the back light at 6.5k or 7k in the light range instead of the neutral 5k that they are supposed to be. super amoled+ dose not need the backlight for low brightness and uses 5k for the back light.
    It may also be why it often has either a green or a yellow tint. However it's relatively easily fixed lately through the use of calibrating programs, as well as decreasing gamma. Also installing a black wallpaper can do wonders to battery life. However the less than good resolution is evident -indeed- and I was always finding the "800x480" figure misguiding, but then again I do not (and cannot) use my phone for heavy reading; despite the retina BS that Apple is spewing, I never felt the need that I have to look to a perfect phone (resolution wise), I much prefer the better colours...

    Then again I guess this falls under individual preferences so I cannot judge. It would be difficult for me if I am to ever have to go back to regular LCDs though, "once you go SAMOLED it's hard to go back", one once said.

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    the amoled+ is awesome, but wihtout the + you do not get the correct colors (even if you can get it close) and having to use the back light makes it look like an lcd unlike the + that looks more like a plasma or crt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    the amoled+ is awesome, but wihtout the + you do not get the correct colors (even if you can get it close) and having to use the back light makes it look like an lcd unlike the + that looks more like a plasma or crt.
    Actually I'm pretty sure it does not use backlight when the screen is completely black (there's no way to tell whether the screen is off or showing a black background at those momments), it probably does when it shows blue hues, but so does it when it shows white, so in most circumstances amoled+ would have used backlight as well (right?). With calibrating programs I can get the colours a lot better (and natural) than any amoled+ screen I have seen. Maybe if one's to callibrate the amoled+ would get *even* better colours, who knows?

    Anyway, end of the of topic. Sorry for derailing this thread. Back to the LG shown above: I find it a great design decision to use a SnapdragonKrait dualie, I would had hoped more (most?) phone developers would had followed LG's example. An A9 Quad seems to be a bit wasteful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    Oh no, 1 whole cm.
    maybe we need to take him back to the days when mobile phones were 80% battery, 19% components and 1% screen, and were dummer than a casio calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    Not all manufacturers work that way and its not like the LGs are the only phones that are open, the issue is mostly getting everything to work in the unofficial ROMs.
    I cant remember the last time i have had a branded phone but most providers overhere stopped branding most of their models cause they noticed that it is to much work (and i gues they noticed that they lost a lot of customers to 3rd partys). But even if the providers here stil branded all their phones it wouldnt be a problem cause id just get a new contract from a 3rd party cause they never use branded phones.

    I myself wil probably trade in my Optimus for a Sony Xperia P or wait and hope that some version of the Hayabusa comes to Europe.

    If LG phones arent a hit its probably because of the small amount of returning customers. Its not asif they are the only manufacturer.
    other than samsung and htc, you have moto that offers fully closed and a year of support if you are lucky or lg that has little support but open.

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    Actually I'm pretty sure it does not use backlight when the screen is completely black (there's no way to tell whether the screen is off or showing a black background at those momments), it probably does when it shows blue hues, but so does it when it shows white, so in most circumstances amoled+ would have used backlight as well (right?). With calibrating programs I can get the colours a lot better (and natural) than any amoled+ screen I have seen. Maybe if one's to callibrate the amoled+ would get *even* better colours, who knows?

    Anyway, end of the of topic. Sorry for derailing this thread. Back to the LG shown above: I find it a great design decision to use a SnapdragonKrait dualie, I would had hoped more (most?) phone developers would had followed LG's example. An A9 Quad seems to be a bit wasteful...
    the backlight is always a little on with the non +, with the + it is not. the backlight replaces blue subpixels with the non +. and i dont think it was LG that picked to go with the dual core, they have other quads coming out but i would bet that the LTE radio messed it up. i honestly do not get the whole move to LTE from hspda+, they are both basically the same speed and they are both not really 4g, lte is also not backwards or forewords compatible with lte2 so i do not see the point when hspda+ uses way less battery and works with all chipsets.
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    Do 1.3mp front facing cameras record video at 720p?
    To all of you that love 4.7 - 5 inch screens on a phone, I don't know how. They are huge...

    My 4.3 inch qHD phone is more than enough for me, it fits in the hand well and I can trace type with a single thumb in a pinch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Do 1.3mp front facing cameras record video at 720p?
    To all of you that love 4.7 - 5 inch screens on a phone, I don't know how. They are huge...

    My 4.3 inch qHD phone is more than enough for me, it fits in the hand well and I can trace type with a single thumb in a pinch.
    the screen size dose not include the bezel, and IMO it is the overall volume that changes the fit in your pocket not the screen size, then pants have larger pocket openings. i do not know about going larger than the note but even that feels normal as it is game boy sized.
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