Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: MSI Radeon R7870 Hawk Overclocking Test (1400/1600 air, 1700/1750 LN2)

  1. #1
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    4,714

    MSI Radeon R7870 Hawk Overclocking Test (1400/1600 air, 1700/1750 LN2)

    Introduction

    May 1st.

    Labor Day – a national holiday. We are legally not allowed to do any labor today. Being a rebel at heart, I do it anyway. Eat that, holiday-inventors!

    Trees, ice-cream, golf carts, frogs, endlessly long boring speeches, multi-color pens, slightly bent measuring rods, peas and pies, a punch to the throat, cardboard box ripped apart by a genuinely excited birthday boy, a cow urinating at the same moment you’re trying to capture the beauty of nature. These are all things that are not relevant to this topic.

    About a week ago, I bought a book online. I was planning to start reading it the moment it arrived on the doorstep. But, so far I haven’t read a word. Why? Who knows. Perhaps I already regret buying it, perhaps I’m just boycotting the hobby of reading books altogether. I don’t know the author, but judging by his name I can already sense he’s a friendly fellow. When I have read the book, I’m sure I’ll send him an email asking to get together for a drink; not just to congratulate him on the fantastic book he wrote, but also to make a note of how friendly his name sounds. He’ll laugh and I will return that laugh with a smile. We are friends now. After the drink, laugh and exchange of personal secrets, I’ll tell him I am an overclocker.

    He probably doesn’t know what overclocking is. But I don’t care – he’s a friend now and he’s allowed to not like what I do.

    Let’s think.

    Pictures

























    System Details

    - AMD Bulldozer FX-8120
    - Intel Core i7 3770K
    - Intel Core i7 3930K
    - GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7
    - MSI X79A-GD65 8D
    - GIGABYTE Z77-D3H
    - GeIL Evo Corsa GOC38GB2133C9ADC 2x4GB (x2)
    - MSI Radeon R7870 Hawk
    - Thortech Thunderbolt 1200W
    - Windows 7 64-bit

    Bulldozer Results







    Sandy Bridge-E Results







    Ivy Bridge Results







    LN2 overclocking

    MSI has two line-ups for overclocking fanatics: the Hawk series and the Lightning series. The Hawk title is usually given to a more mainstream product, whereas the Lightning is for high-end top-of-the-range cards. As you can see from the voltage measurement points, this card is build for overclocking.

    On stock air cooling, I could reach 1400/1600 and run it through all benchmarks. Pretty impressive I'd say. On LN2, I was able to run 1700/1650 in the first tests, but only get it stable through GT4 of 3DMark11. GT1 always crashed after 20 seconds due to OVP issues. With a new VGA bios, the OVP issues were resolved and I could finally start testing the card under LN2 seriously. After a bit of work (more on that later) I could get the card all the way upto 1700/1750 through 3DMark11!



    Now, as mentioned before, the card does require a bit of work to get running properly under LN2. Not only does it have the typical HD7000-series temperature/monitor issues (screen goes blank under specific temp), but it also has a CBB. Also, you need to slowly work your way up to the higher clock region if you want things to run fine as well as figure out the ideal voltage settings. Once in a while, you'll have to go into safe mode and uninstall Afterburner as a crash makes it impossible to load into Windows normally (instant black screen). Below a certain temperature, Afterburner might also lose the ability to set voltages. So, as you can see, there is a bit of work involved. But, once you have the card up and running, it's quite a lot of fun!

    A couple of key pointers:

    - Use the OVP VGA BIOS: link
    - Have a safety clock setting you always load before starting to go north of 1600MHz core (I used 1400/1500)
    - Set the voltages before dropping the temperature
    - Run GT4 to check for artifacts or cold issues
    - Play with the AUX voltage to lower the temp at which the monitor starts to go bezerk
    - Coldbootbug on my card: -90°C
    - Coldbug on my card: -120°C (below that memory issues)
    - Vgpu droop is a little high: 1600mV set = 1621mV idle = 1567mV load

    Temperature scaling:

    - -50°C 1550MHz at 1.45V
    - -50°C 1600MHz at 1.5V
    - -55°C 1625MHz at 1.6V
    - -70°C 1650MHz at 1.6V
    - -90°C 1700MHz at 1.6V

    1700/1750 requires the following voltages:

    - Vgpu: 1600mV (not scaling higher)
    - Vmem: 1800mV (1800MHz was also stable, so more left)
    - Vaux: +200 (helped pushing monitor issues down to -110°C; higher voltage didn't really help)

    Here's the piece of paper I used to write down settings and problems. Not sure if it will help, but it might be interesting for pointers or at least to see how my LN2 process/methodology goes .



    In the next week, when I get a fresh dewar of LN2, I'll run the card with Ivy Bridge too. More coming!
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  2. #2
    Xtreme Memory Hoarder
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    2,661
    very nice review

    mid line 7 series cards are all clocking pretty well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    gskillllin it!

  3. #3
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    ATHENS
    Posts
    100
    Nice review man!I see sandy-e is beating ivy in the same clocks...
    混沌とした アンモラル

  4. #4
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Chattanooga, TN
    Posts
    372
    Quote Originally Posted by chaotic View Post
    Nice review man!I see sandy-e is beating ivy in the same clocks...
    6 core / 12 thread vs. 4 core / 8 thread

    Core i5 2500K @ 4.8GHz 1.31v [L041C123] | Gigabyte P67-UD3P-B3 | Corsair H60 | 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1866 8-9-8-24-1T | Samsung F3 1TB |
    ASUS GTX 670 2GB| PCP&C Silencer 500W | Antec Three Hundred "Blacked Out" | Dell Ultrasharp 23" U2311H IPS 1920x1080



  5. #5
    Xtremely Bad Overclocker
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    East Blue
    Posts
    3,596
    that looks really nice. wonder where this card could end up with no cb
    | '12 IvyBridge - "ticks different"... | AwardFabrik IvyBridge round I by SoF | AwardFabrik IvyBridge round II by angoholic & stummerwinter
    | '11 The SandyBridge madness... | AwardFabrik / Team LDK OC-Season 2011/2012 Opening Event
    | '10 Gulftown LaunchDay OC round up @ASUS RIIE | 3DM05 2x GPU WR LIVE @Cebit 2010 @ASUS MIIIE | SandyBridge arrived @ASUS P8P67

    | '09 Foxconn Avenger | E8600 | Foxconn A79A-S | Phenom II 940 BE | LaunchDay Phenom II OC round up
    | '08 7.438s 1m LN2 | AMD 1m WR LN2 | 2nd AOCM | Phenom II teasing
    | '07 100% E2140 | 106.5% E2160 | 100% E4500 | 103% E4400 | 5508 MHZ E6850 | 7250 MHZ P4 641 126.5% by SoF and AwardFabrik Crew all on Gigabyte DS3P c? and LN2...
    | '06 3800+ X2 Manchester 0531TPEW noHS 3201MHZ c? | 3200+ Venice noHS 3279MHZ c? | Opteron 148 0536CABYE 3405MHZ c? all on Gigabyte K8NXP-SLI compressorcooled

    | '05 3500+[NC], 3000+[W], 2x 3200+[W], 3500+[NC], 3200+[V] 0516GPDW

    Quote Originally Posted by saaya
    sof pulled a fermi on all of us !!!

  6. #6
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    4,714
    Elmor says both of the cards he tested could do 1900MHz core frequency. Mine's not going over 1800 so far, though ... but perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  7. #7
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    365
    Nothing new in Elmor running a few 100 mhz faster than all us mortals. :-)
    OCTeamDenmark.Com

  8. #8
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    1,233
    Thats some serious Clock !
    BTTB - Gigabyte Z87X-OC - WCed I7 4770k - 2x8gb Ballistix 1600mhz - Zotac GTX 780
    Asus Xonar Pheobus - OS -> Toshiba Q 256gb - Games -> 2x Agility 4 256gb Raid0
    Corsair HX850 - Tecnofront HWD BenchTable - Asus VE278Q 5760x1080

    Serveur - Asus Z77m PRO - 2500K - NH-C12P - 4x4gb G.Skill Ares 1600mhz
    Agility 4 128gb - Corsair CX430M - 1TB Black - 2TB green - 2TB Red

    KatPat - Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 - FX-8320 - PH-TC14CS - 2x4gb Viper 1600mhz - GTS 450
    Samsung Evo 120gb - Corsair HX750 - Bitfenix Survivor White - Asus VE247H

  9. #9
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    4,714
    Tried a couple times more ... but no improvement. Seems like my card is just inferior to all the cards Elmor has in his lab .

    ASIC quality of my card is 80.3% by the way.

    Contact without removing the shim around the core was good:

    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  10. #10
    silver wall jumper X
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    1,579
    awesome review!

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •