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    No doubt Amd will out another 400watt leaf blower... I havent been impressed by dual gpu cards in general (having used 2 myself) but the reference design on this looks to have real potential.

    In the end though these cards tend to be the realm of benchers and the ego stroking marketing department. Theyll surely sell out in 1 day and been no where to be seen for the forseable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    A bit more info: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...0-preview.html


    AMD won't be able to match this for the foreseeable future. But then again, New Zealand could become a lower priced alternative.
    Seriously i dont see why.... a 925mhz 7990 should be faster of it...

    And if Nvidia annonce allready this is a limited edition... no matter it will be really hard to find.

    Its a really nice card, really impressive, i dont like dual gpu for their limited overclockability, but this one look pretty good.
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    With that kind of price I don't see a reason why one should not buy two GTX 680s, it would perform/clock better and it's not as if SLI boards are a rarity anymore...

    Great technological achievement but IMO -at that price- unneeded...

    In a perfect world, gtx 680 would had been priced at $350-$400 (a bit how HD5870s were one moon earlier) and it's dual counterpart (the 690) at $700. It all went downhill when AMD decided to price their flagship card @ $550 instead of how they were doing business two generations ago...

    In two words, great generation, bad pricing, at least from a consumer's point of view...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    isnt 300W the max draw in the PCI-e spec, that would mean that they need to keep the reference under that but there is no reason that there will not be overclocked or liquid cooled cards.
    PCI-E 8-pin power gives 150w each, so two of those on a card plus the slot power = 375w max delivery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevethegreat View Post
    With that kind of price I don't see a reason why one should not buy two GTX 680s, it would perform/clock better and it's not as if SLI boards are a rarity anymore...

    Great technological achievement but IMO -at that price- unneeded...

    In a perfect world, gtx 680 would had been priced at $350-$400 (a bit how HD5870s were one moon earlier) and it's dual counterpart (the 690) at $700. It all went downhill when AMD decided to price their flagship card @ $550 instead of how they were doing business two generations ago...

    In two words, great generation, bad pricing, at least from a consumer's point of view...
    yeah seriously $999? wow, just wow. little to no game will use it @ 1080p or below anyway (unless u turn on like 32x CSAA with supersampling)

    also like someone mentioned earlier, we are in a recession/ (arguably) depression in many parts of the world. what were they thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip_J_Fry View Post
    yeah seriously $999? wow, just wow. little to no game will use it @ 1080p or below anyway (unless u turn on like 32x CSAA with supersampling)

    also like someone mentioned earlier, we are in a recession/ (arguably) depression in many parts of the world. what were they thinking?
    almost feels like nvidia is pulling an amd by releasing a really fast card, but charging more than they should, and maybe when the 7990 comes out for ~800$ they would drop their price down.

    im not trying to say whose being the bad guy, i just would find it incredibly funny if the roles were opposite so quickly after we just saw it happen.

    id also bet that most reviews show 1080p gaming is only up like 60% and not 100%, and that in half those reviews the framerate is 200fps and really meant nothing.
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    This level of card is simply not by any means intended for the masses, as the price would loudly indicate. It's just a crown jewel for bragging, marketing & chest beating. It's sole purpose is to be the fastest single graphics card on the market not break sales records.

    Even if it where introduced at say $799 it would still cater to a very small audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highoctane View Post
    This level of card is simply not by any means intended for the masses, as the price would loudly indicate. It's just a crown jewel for bragging, marketing & chest beating. It's sole purpose is to be the fastest single graphics card on the market not break sales records.

    Even if it where introduced at say $799 it would still cater to a very small audience.
    So whats the 780 going to be then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    And if Nvidia annonce allready this is a limited edition... no matter it will be really hard to find.
    Unless Nvidia is secretly hoarding cards until AMD's response the number of units point to a reviewer edition with a small number going to retailers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    So whats the 780 going to be then?
    Judging from the nomenclature alone I'm going to go out on a limb, next generation hardware maybe???

    In which case there just might be some form of 790 sometime later as well as maybe an 880 and 890, etc...
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    aww god, a dual GK110 card? that would be like a rumoured 6K cores? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by highoctane View Post
    Judging from the nomenclature alone I'm going to go out on a limb, next generation hardware maybe???

    In which case there just might be some form of 790 sometime later as well as maybe an 880 and 890, etc...
    Yeah, thats what i'm starting to think... guess i'll just sit on my 480's for a while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    Yeah, thats what i'm starting to think... guess i'll just sit on my 480's for a while longer.
    +1, was keen as beans to upgrade to Ivy + 680s but I still get 80+ FPS in BF3 all high settings etc (adn I only play @ 1080p) so why should I bother?

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    This card is hardware :banana::banana::banana::banana:, imo it looks really really sweet.

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    I do not understand the purpose of this card when two 680s are the same price, perform better, OC better, and are much easier to sell off once you are done with them.

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    But will it smell as good as the Mk 1 GTX 295?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    Seriously i dont see why.... a 925mhz 7990 should be faster of it...
    The main issue with AMD's cards right now is the power they consume. IMO, there's just no way for AMD to release a HD 7990 with two fully enabled and clocked Tahiti XT cores without demolishing the 375W PCI-E certification ceiling. If anything, I think that AMD will either release the HD 7990 at a lower price point to act as a bridge product between the GTX 680 and GTX 690 or cancel New Zealand in order to focus upon their refresh parts.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    Unless Nvidia is secretly hoarding cards until AMD's response the number of units point to a reviewer edition with a small number going to retailers.
    Supposedly the reviewer pool for this one is quite limited with most of the cards going to retailers and board partners.

    The main issue here is one of timing. This has been a seriously top secret product; so much so that NONE of the board partners were briefed on it full until Jen Hsun's speech. This means they have a strictly constrained timeframe between receiving the products and being able to ship them for launch. With launch less than four days away, don't expect to see these cards in the channel before next week at the earliest. BUT, some retailers will likely receive a few cards via Air shipments for May 3rd.
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    i think the secrecy and speed of the launch is so amd can no longer count the "# days of having the fastest gpu"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevethegreat View Post
    With that kind of price I don't see a reason why one should not buy two GTX 680s, it would perform/clock better and it's not as if SLI boards are a rarity anymore...

    Great technological achievement but IMO -at that price- unneeded...

    In a perfect world, gtx 680 would had been priced at $350-$400 (a bit how HD5870s were one moon earlier) and it's dual counterpart (the 690) at $700. It all went downhill when AMD decided to price their flagship card @ $550 instead of how they were doing business two generations ago...

    In two words, great generation, bad pricing, at least from a consumer's point of view...
    More and more people seem to be using MATX boards or even ITX boards. Dual GPUs is either impossible or it will eat up all of your possible space so you can forget about using dual GPUs along with a proper NIC or soundcard. Creating a dual GPU card fixes this situation.
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    Improved Frame rate Metering

    Kepler introduces hardware based frame rate metering, a technology that helps to minimize stuttering. In SLI mode, two GPUs share the workload by operating on successive frames; one GPU works on the current frame while the other GPU works on the next frame. But because the workload of each frame is different, the two GPUs will complete their frames at different times. Sending the frames to the monitor at varying intervals can result in perceived stuttering.

    The GeForce GTX 690 features a metering mechanism (similar to a traffic meter for a freeway entrance) to regulate the flow of frames. By monitoring and smoothing out any disparities in how frames are issued to the monitor, frame rates feel smoother and more consistent.
    This is extremely interesting. Unless it will introduce input lag which it might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    The main issue with AMD's cards right now is the power they consume. IMO, there's just no way for AMD to release a HD 7990 with two fully enabled and clocked Tahiti XT cores without demolishing the 375W PCI-E certification ceiling. If anything, I think that AMD will either release the HD 7990 at a lower price point to act as a bridge product between the GTX 680 and GTX 690 or cancel New Zealand in order to focus upon their refresh parts.
    Nvidia did it with Fermi. I am sure AMD will manage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Nvidia did it with Fermi. I am sure AMD will manage.
    That's because NVIDIA introduced a card with a pair of neutered cores.

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