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    Arrow Snapdragon S4 Embarasses compettion

    Owning Tegra 3, what a win in battery life having a dual core that beats four.
    Though I'll skip, O2X with Android 4 works good for the moment
    More:http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26...es-competition
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc...se-date-3.html
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    yeah, I am happy with OMAP5 also coming out next year,

    do you have any references of Snapdragon's S4 architecture?

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    Anandtech did a qualcomm writeup on the S4 eng sample device.

    Problem with tegra 3 vs krait is that what apps use 4 cores vs 1/2.
    No doubt IPC of krait is 1.5-1.8 times better than the A9's But 4 A9's should be close to two Kraits. Cinebench for android? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuroikenshi View Post
    yeah, I am happy with OMAP5 also coming out next year,

    do you have any references of Snapdragon's S4 architecture?
    This is the article:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/q...t-architecture
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    While this is impressive, you also have to remember that Vellamo is a Qualcomm made benchmark...

    Snapdragon S4 beats Huawei Ascend XL... in 720P testing.

    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...surprised.aspx
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    I think for a proper understanding of how good the S4 is we need to wait a bit for the other OEMs to release their A15 designs. Also the leading platform in the mobile market seems to change rather quickly atm as there is quite a bit of competition and innovation. BTW Qualcomm's Adreno GPUs are the evolution of AMD's mobile GPUs that they bought a couple of years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    I think for a proper understanding of how good the S4 is we need to wait a bit for the other OEMs to release their A15 designs. Also the leading platform in the mobile market seems to change rather quickly atm as there is quite a bit of competition and innovation. BTW Qualcomm's Adreno GPUs are the evolution of AMD's mobile GPUs that they bought a couple of years ago
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    Embarrasses competition? lol So the latest from Qualcomm is better than older CPUs. Thats some big news there... Lets see what happens once all the new designs hit the street in the coming months and see who wins. I dont have much hope for the new Snapdragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    Embarrasses competition? lol So the latest from Qualcomm is better than older CPUs. Thats some big news there... Lets see what happens once all the new designs hit the street in the coming months and see who wins. I dont have much hope for the new Snapdragon.
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    Don't know why everyone is raving about S4 its fast but not earth shattering they only benchmarked vellamo and quadrant , in this review http://vr-zone.com/articles/lg-s-teg...ant/14898.html looking at quadrant individual scores , CPU and GPU scores are better on tegra3. Heck even now aging sgs2 can score 5000+ range in quadrant with latest OS and kernel.

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    Qualcomm vs ARM , The new AMD vs Intel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    Look how many former AMD people they have now
    i think that you mean ATI people, the team stayed the same until amd sold it, and they were never merged or grouped with an amd team.

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    Tegra 3 old?
    tegra3 is using the same cores as tegra2 for the cpu, so it is old. it did add things like the touch sensor chipset on the die to reduce lag and a 5th core that takes care of standby when the phone is in sleep mode, but the core design is old

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    Qualcomm vs ARM , The new AMD vs Intel
    qualcomm is more like intel, they make the reference core and radio, and they reject radio compatibility if you do not follow their interface design, nvidia is more like via, and samsung/ti are more like amd since they have strong floating point and gpu (they work together and use powervr gpu cores)
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    Not shocked it beats tegra3, how much tablet is 4 cores? As a tegra3 tablet user, not much! Not to mention the mess that is android market and a ton of stuff just not working with tegra3 devices.
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    The snapdragons with the 3xx graphics chips coming later this year will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    Qualcomm vs ARM , The new AMD vs Intel
    Qualcomm uses ARM cpu cores like all other major mobile SoC OEMs.
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    No they don't. Qualcomm creates its own ARM-compatible designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD View Post
    No they don't. Qualcomm creates its own ARM-compatible designs.
    I think what BrowncoatGR meant is that Qualcomm, like others, designs ARM based SoCs, no more, no less.

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    Actually he specifically implied cores in Qualcomm CPUs are the same as all other SoC OEMs. That's absolutely not the case: pretty much like AMD vs Intel for x86 - the quoted comparison he wanted to disprove -Qualcomm and ARM produce entirely different CPUs for the same mArchitecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanzabar View Post
    tegra3 is using the same cores as tegra2 for the cpu, so it is old. it did add things like the touch sensor chipset on the die to reduce lag and a 5th core that takes care of standby when the phone is in sleep mode, but the core design is old
    Yes I know the cores design is old, but they doubled in number and give it a bit more frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD View Post
    Actually he specifically implied cores in Qualcomm CPUs are the same as all other SoC OEMs. That's absolutely not the case: pretty much like AMD vs Intel for x86 - the quoted comparison he wanted to disprove -Qualcomm and ARM produce entirely different CPUs for the same mArchitecture.
    More accurately he was pointing out there can not be a Qualcomm versus ARM. That is like saying AMD versus x86.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    More accurately he was pointing out there can not be a Qualcomm versus ARM. That is like saying AMD versus x86.
    No its not.

    Qualcomm designs their own ARM compatible Cores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    More accurately he was pointing out there can not be a Qualcomm versus ARM. That is like saying AMD versus x86.
    ARM design ARM cores.

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    Please people, check your facts.

    The original Snapdragon CPU, dubbed Scorpion,[1] is Qualcomm's own design. It has many features similar to those of the ARM Cortex-A8 core and it is based on the ARM v7 instruction set
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fussion View Post
    ARM design ARM cores.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallenator View Post
    Please people, check your facts.

    The original Snapdragon CPU, dubbed Scorpion,[1] is Qualcomm's own design. It has many features similar to those of the ARM Cortex-A8 core and it is based on the ARM v7 instruction set
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
    Like Aberration said Snapdragon is an implementation of the ARMv7 instruction set and therefore an ARM processor in the same way Bulldozer and Sandy Bridge are both x86 processors.
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