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    is that a usb connector on the back? FINALLY...

    now it just needs another 2gb of ram.

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    Find it a bit strange that they put 6+8 pin on a card like this.
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    Not if you plan to give it 1.8v+

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD View Post
    Not if you plan to give it 1.8v+
    Let me rephrase; I find it strange that they didn't put 8+8 pin on a card like this.


    Why not go all out while they're at it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD View Post
    Not if you plan to give it 1.8v+
    Think what he/she was getting at is that other cards have 2x8 for heavy OCing.

    EDIT: Beat me too it :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth View Post
    Or, is it?

    You're thinking non-reference. Zotac may have a new design in place that is capable of 2K GHz.
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    Considering nobody here has any idea how cherry picked chips perform while running on a far higher quality PCB with high end volt regulation and other components... it would probably be a good idea to not call BS so quickly since many of you still haven't finished eating that crow served up last week.
    Zotac has never been a company who makes outlandish claims that they couldn't live up to. Plus they have absolutely nothing to gain by making this announcement and not having at least some preliminary results pointing at the possibility of such speeds.
    That said, Zotac really has their work cut out for them. I'm not sure if they'll hit 2ghz, but i wouldn't put it past them judging from their track record.
    If these cards got up to 1900 Mhz on liquid nitrogen, theres no way they are doing 2 Ghz on air. Please show me just one case of where any card has beaten the maximum LN2 clocks using air and I will reconsider my opinion, but I am very sure that you cant surpass LN2 results with a standard air cooler, even if you make it 3 or 4 slots, its still not going to be good enough.

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    Oh sorry you're right, for some reason I read it as 8+8... and I was assuming that was the case. It's actually a weird thing.

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    I love how now that everyone has actually seen the card, the talk about 2GHz is no longer blasphemy but more of a question of if or when rather than actually saying that a 2GHz claim is absolutely ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD View Post
    That's a beautiful design. Not to mention extremely quick to come out compared to the usual heavily customised designs.
    I wonder what's going to be possible to do with that mini/micro-USB connected 'OC+' thing.
    Just for say, i have see a photos of the card, without well looking, i was think it is the MSI lightning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    Just for say, i have see a photos of the card, without well looking, i was think it is the MSI lightning.


    @Russian, cause you think this card is set at 2ghz ?
    No, no way. I think its overclockable to 2GHz on LN2 or DICE. Some sort of Extreme Cooling. Nowhere did they say that it would be 2GHz on air or water. That would be absolutely awesome, but I don't think that the thermal solutions exist to accommodate such a clock speed. It has to be extreme cooling. Since Vince did 1.9GHz for EVGA, I also think EVGA's cards will also be capable of breaking 2GHz on LN2...

    That's why when people started talking about Zotac's claims, I didn't really understand why there was so much opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    Nowhere did they say that it would be 2GHz on air or water.
    this is where i have a problem, the source says: "This non-reference design graphics card will apparently come with a core clock speed of 2 GHz,"

    the words, "come with" indicate the bios is set at that clock and you will always get that clock speed.
    i was trying to find the exact words of the person who made the original statement, but have not seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    this is where i have a problem, the source says: "This non-reference design graphics card will apparently come with a core clock speed of 2 GHz,"

    the words, "come with" indicate the bios is set at that clock and you will always get that clock speed.
    i was trying to find the exact words of the person who made the original statement, but have not seen it.
    Was the source in English? If I recall, it was Chinese... Not always the best to rely on Google Translate with syntax errors.

    Even so... they could have a BIOS that will only be usable with LN2 and Extreme Cold BIOS features enabled or something.

    It could be a 2GHz card, but you provide the cooling :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    Was the source in English? If I recall, it was Chinese... Not always the best to rely on Google Translate with syntax errors.

    Even so... they could have a BIOS that will only be usable with LN2 and Extreme Cold BIOS features enabled or something.

    It could be a 2GHz card, but you provide the cooling :P
    i dont even have the translation, all ive ever seen was an article about the conversation. no quotes, not translators, nothing. thats whats making this so frustrating, is how little info about the statement is really out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    i dont even have the translation, all ive ever seen was an article about the conversation. no quotes, not translators, nothing. thats whats making this so frustrating, is how little info about the statement is really out there.
    I pried my Zotac contact as much as I can. Let me see if there's anything else I can do. I was given very little-to-no information other than the fact that the story originally posted was not a fabrication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101 View Post
    Taken out of context perhaps? An SKU that is binned to do 2 GHz on LN2?
    Nudge nudge Read it more as "we will launch an SKU qualified for 2 GHz under the right conditions."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    Was the source in English? If I recall, it was Chinese... Not always the best to rely on Google Translate with syntax errors.

    Even so... they could have a BIOS that will only be usable with LN2 and Extreme Cold BIOS features enabled or something.

    It could be a 2GHz card, but you provide the cooling :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian View Post
    No, no way. I think its overclockable to 2GHz on LN2 or DICE. Some sort of Extreme Cooling. Nowhere did they say that it would be 2GHz on air or water. That would be absolutely awesome, but I don't think that the thermal solutions exist to accommodate such a clock speed. It has to be extreme cooling. Since Vince did 1.9GHz for EVGA, I also think EVGA's cards will also be capable of breaking 2GHz on LN2...

    That's why when people started talking about Zotac's claims, I didn't really understand why there was so much opposition.
    Because none of us thought they'd be talking about 2 GHz core speeds under LN2 temperatures at a press release for the card. But I suppose such a statement was effective as it did just us talking about Zotac when normally we'd never even cared about it.

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    im at 1.3ghz core and 1.85ghz mem on air, stays at 70c full load with a closed case and custom fan profile, good stuff
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    Of course I was right on the new PCB design. Looks like an overclocking beast begging to be starved and then fed a den of fresh carcasses.

    I want all of you to quote me on this:

    Whether it be on air cooling, water cooling, LN2, OR deep-space-colder-than-atmosphere-cooling, this card will hit 2GHz.
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    Well if the reference hits 1900 MHz on extreme cooling, it would be bad if such an uber custom design didn't manage at least 2 Ghz.

    But its simply not happening on air and for the stock clocks.

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    I'm gonna buy a pallet of 680's and re-sell and market as 2ghz cards (all you need is some LN2, but I wont tell you that).
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    what if you sold them with a dewer of LN2 and some LN2 blocks? then it'd be an all-inclusive package
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    Review and overclock here:
    http://en.expreview.com/2012/04/08/z...w/22203.html/5

    "In the second overclocking test we remained unchanged memory frequency of 1802MHz, the core voltage rose to 1.35V and we conducted graphics core air-cooled overclocking test. After some tweaking and testing, the graphics core could be overclocked to 1.35GHz, the card scored P10738 in 3DMark 11, 9.55% higher than that of the default frequency.

    What about the potential graphics core frequency in air-cooled condition would be? We tuned the memory frequency back to 1502MHz. and conducted overclocking towards graphics core, in the voltage of 1.35V, we successfully reached core frequency of 1.4GHz, at the time it scored P10785 in 3DMark 11 test.

    Later, we tried higher core/voltage overclocking test, the score improved slightly in the GPU voltage of 1.375V, core frequency reached 1.41GHz, however, at that time core temperature had already been very high at around 95℃ ."
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    http://www.chiphell.com/thread-443892-1-1.html

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