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    Come on you have to admit this is much harder to believe than the usual stuff. I mean even if they said they would be coming out with a card that would do 1500 mhz its almost as hard to believe. This is 100% oc we are talking about.

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    yes kingpin got 1900mhz with ln2, but with very little effort, so that could be far from the limit.
    add in cherry picking, high quality specific power section, throw a waterblock on it and it doesn't sound so crazy
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    Theres a """slight""" difference of GPU mhz scaling between waterblock and -190C degrees unless this waterblock has some Liquid nitrogen in it.
    I find it extremely amuzing that someone really belives that they can do it on air or water.
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    has ANY gpu in the history of gpus come out at half the speed of third party chips.
    2ghz on a SINGLE core at STOCK speeds is not going to happen.
    miscommunication is much more likely here.
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    they were probably talking about a 1.2ghz card
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    When I first saw this, I thought maybe they've found a way to get the hotclock working again. Even so thats a little too much to keep cool and feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew LB View Post
    Considering nobody here has any idea how cherry picked chips perform while running on a far higher quality PCB with high end volt regulation and other components... it would probably be a good idea to not call BS so quickly since many of you still haven't finished eating that crow served up last week.
    Zotac has never been a company who makes outlandish claims that they couldn't live up to. Plus they have absolutely nothing to gain by making this announcement and not having at least some preliminary results pointing at the possibility of such speeds.
    That said, Zotac really has their work cut out for them. I'm not sure if they'll hit 2ghz, but i wouldn't put it past them judging from their track record.
    Considering I have been able to test 580 GTX chips on a very cherry PCB (to name it: Matrix Platinum 580) and could test 5 different cards - I say it is a good idea to call that announcement bs every day...

    I tested 580 GTX ref, CUII and Matrix - any of thoose cards could hit 1000+ with a good chip on it...in the end it is always the GPU-chip (face) that talks, everything else is just the body...and if you have an ugly face - the best body can't do anything about it...

    Due to the powerlimits the cards have it seems plausible to hit 1200-1400 for a card you can give full warranty on - but 2000+ LOL, give them a break to think about it...

    We have seen some crazy designs from Zotac for the chinese market but 2000+ WILL NOT HAPPEN on 680 GTX - I say it again!
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    Maybee they have access to GK110 disable a bunch of crap, and OC ....

    But in reality, 2ghz is 1on1 against Lionel Messi.... IMPOSSIBLE ;D
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    Some of you guys really think they are going to ship a 680 at 2ghz???? Wow anyone want to buy some ocean front property cheap? Of course there is some sort of a communication issue with all this or somthing, seriously think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    has ANY gpu in the history of gpus come out at half the speed of third party chips.
    2ghz on a SINGLE core at STOCK speeds is not going to happen.
    miscommunication is much more likely here.
    No but there was at least 2 gpu's that could be clocked far past there stock speeds.
    The tnt1 and tnt2.
    Both stock around 115-125mhz, and both can be clocked to 240mhz on a crappy core, and 255mhz ona good core.
    255mhz was the max back then, 0xFF in hex, it could not support any higher unless you hard modded and replaced the crystal and so on, something I have no clue how to do correctly (actually I have some clue's how to do so on newer card's, err gf2mx+ and so on, inside the driver it has some debugging stuff that allows you to set a different div for the crystal, it was meant for the mem, some card's had sdr while others had ddr1, bleh bleh whatever).

    The original radeon gen of card's also clocked very well.
    I had the 7800, I don't rmember the clocks but I do know it clocked way up there, maybe 80% oc.

    I don't know if such a high clock is possible on the 680 or not.
    But I would not outright disregarde it.

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    That was the memory that topped out at 250, not the cores. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gra...overclock.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEOAethyr View Post
    No but there was at least 2 gpu's that could be clocked far past there stock speeds.
    The tnt1 and tnt2.
    Both stock around 115-125mhz, and both can be clocked to 240mhz on a crappy core, and 255mhz ona good core.
    255mhz was the max back then, 0xFF in hex, it could not support any higher unless you hard modded and replaced the crystal and so on, something I have no clue how to do correctly (actually I have some clue's how to do so on newer card's, err gf2mx+ and so on, inside the driver it has some debugging stuff that allows you to set a different div for the crystal, it was meant for the mem, some card's had sdr while others had ddr1, bleh bleh whatever).

    The original radeon gen of card's also clocked very well.
    I had the 7800, I don't rmember the clocks but I do know it clocked way up there, maybe 80% oc.

    I don't know if such a high clock is possible on the 680 or not.
    But I would not outright disregarde it.
    I don't remember the 7800 clocking very well at all. My Leadtek 7800gt had a 'boost' mechanism in it's bios which would boost the clock by 50mhz in 3D mode, and it caused it artifact like crazy.

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    What a joke. Whats funnier is some actually believe it.

    1.2ghz would be imppressive and would be slightly faster than a 7970 at those clocks.
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    Hehehe, can't believe this thread is still going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Hehehe, can't believe this thread is still going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightSpeed View Post
    What a joke. Whats funnier is some actually believe it.

    1.2ghz would be imppressive and would be slightly faster than a 7970 at those clocks.
    I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. I did 1.3GHz on air on the reference board with the stock cooler. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to allude to because you really have no idea what you're talking about.

    I think that 2GHz is very possible, but also VERY ambitious. To me 1.5GHz seems much more reasonable and possible, but jesus christ you guys calm down the negativity. I think someone's been drinking a bit too much haterade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    has ANY gpu in the history of gpus come out at half the speed of third party chips.
    2ghz on a SINGLE core at STOCK speeds is not going to happen.
    miscommunication is much more likely here.
    So, the part where I emailed my Zotac rep and asked if the story was legit wasn't good enough to admit it wasn't a mistake?

    I honestly don't know why this thread is still going on either, because its basically a bunch of guessing and conjecture. Zotac hasn't given me or anyone else any details about this claim, so we'll have to sit tight and wait.

    To simply denounce this is purely being negative and makes little sense until Zotac delivers some details. Right now it sounds like a pretty hyped marketing claim, but we shall see. Plus, they never claimed that it would be on air or water, the cooling was never actually described on the 2GHz card...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoF View Post
    Considering I have been able to test 580 GTX chips on a very cherry PCB (to name it: Matrix Platinum 580) and could test 5 different cards - I say it is a good idea to call that announcement bs every day...
    Trying to use the overclocking abilities of GTX 580 to draw conclusions as to the potential of GTX 680 is just about the worst comparison imaginable. GTX 680 is 40% smaller (294mm2) compared to GTX 580 (520mm2), both are on completely different manufacturing processes, and so far my GTX 680 reference board clocks 300mhz over stock with a tiny volt bump. My Fermi cards clocked nowhere near as well.

    Regardless... as I said earlier, lets all see how things play out with this zotac card instead of instantly attacking it. I don't think they could hit 2ghz either... but it will be interesting.

    I tested 580 GTX ref, CUII and Matrix - any of thoose cards could hit 1000+ with a good chip on it...in the end it is always the GPU-chip (face) that talks, everything else is just the body...and if you have an ugly face - the best body can't do anything about it...

    Due to the powerlimits the cards have it seems plausible to hit 1200-1400 for a card you can give full warranty on - but 2000+ LOL, give them a break to think about it...

    We have seen some crazy designs from Zotac for the chinese market but 2000+ WILL NOT HAPPEN on 680 GTX - I say it again![/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightSpeed View Post
    What a joke. Whats funnier is some actually believe it.

    1.2ghz would be imppressive and would be slightly faster than a 7970 at those clocks.
    Slightly faster? That's all lol? =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbagz View Post
    Slightly faster? That's all lol? =/

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    Nah, he's just ribbing ya.

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    On a single reference GTX 680 (two installed, though, but SLI disabled... thus x8 PCI-E 2.0, physx off) I get X3550 with a quiet, fan-curved OC of 1215core/6700mem setup that is fully game-stable. Exact same rig. Works like a charm at auto fan and 1202mhz core peak turbo in SLI (even quieter than my fan-curved OC with the single card). In SLI I get X6672.

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    Hahaha I fell for the traps :'(

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    ZOTAC GeForce GTX 680 Extreme Edition Pictured

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    ZOTAC took a top-tier binned GK104 GPU, 2 GB of high-grade Hynix GDDR5 memory chips, and paired them with a 12-phase VRM power supply. Apart from bleeding-edge International Rectifier GaNpowIR driver-MOSFETs, the VRM uses server-grade tantalum capacitors, and FPCAP multi-phase capacitors. To drive it all, ZOTAC used CHiL CHL8318 VRM controller.






    ZOTAC claims world-records will be set, and broken, using this card, although it did not give out details of its out-of-the-box clock speeds.
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    I think they meant that they achieved 2GHz on one chip they binned using LN2 and then will sell those binned chips on this ridiculous card (with massive VRM, unlocked everything, disabled "boost", and mostly gold-based components) for an extreme premium. K|ngp|n did 1.9GHz, what's to say Zotac couldn't do more?
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    Be interesting what EVGA brings to the table with their 14 Phase Classifieds (if those leaf blower model 580s were anything to go off).

    Good on Zotac though. Good push for publicity etc hope it turns out well for them.

    I have always been a fan of their products, just seems like they never got enough spotlight time compared to your Asus, Gigabytes etc.

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    That's a beautiful design. Not to mention extremely quick to come out compared to the usual heavily customised designs.
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