id Software confirms layoffs

[clo007]

Yep, one of my friends was one who got laid off today.

[Caparroz]

Just to clear things up, id Software engines are OpenGL based. They never did anything DX based, afaik...

[Krelin]

Just to clear things up, id Software engines are OpenGL based. They never did anything DX based, afaik...

Nice for Linux gamers. :>

[iddqd]

Yep, one of my friends was one who got laid off today.

Just out of curiousity, what sort of work did he or she do?

[[XC] Oj101]

Developer must import maybe shooting throught wall , curvilinear motion rockets

Oh HELL no, not in a Quake game thank you very much!

OT - I started playing Q3A and Q3TA again last week, such immense amounts of fun!

[DilTech]

The only game that will save ID is another quake 3 arena type of a game.

Not quite true...

Doom 4 is liable to be a multi-million seller, much like Doom 3 before it. Doom 3 sold AMAZINGLY.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I just don't get all of the Rage hate. Once you get past the crappy visuals, disable mouse smoothing, and bump up the fov it really is a good game. I'll go as far as to say that its one of the best single player fps titles that I've played in recent years.

[Lizardus]

Oh HELL no, not in a Quake game thank you very much!

OT - I started playing Q3A and Q3TA again last week, such immense amounts of fun!

I don't like this also...so what now, new quake arena which will be a clone q3 arena with better textures? mechanica will be this same. We have q4 with mods(better netcode because raven soft fu**ed up) and scene stay with q3...UT3 sells on PC terrible...Q5 arena on console will be harakiri imho...Q3A is still best game of this type (fast shooter) and i think it will never change....

[iddqd]

Nice for Linux gamers. :>

Yeah, maybe if OpenGL wasn't like 3x faster on Windows anyway.

[DilTech]

I just don't get all of the Rage hate. Once you get past the crappy visuals, disable mouse smoothing, and bump up the fov it really is a good game. I'll go as far as to say that its one of the best single player fps titles that I've played in recent years.

I had a blast with Rage as well. A lot of people were just disappointed because we know what the game could've looked like had it not focused so much on consoles.

[[XC] Oj101]

I don't want better textures, they can remove the textures altogether for all I care. Give me new maps and new guns and may you die painfully if you start including achievements a la Call of Duty.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I don't want better textures, they can remove the textures altogether for all I care. Give me new maps and new guns and may you die painfully if you start including achievements a la Call of Duty.

Ugh, does every fps need to focus on multiplayer?

[[XC] Oj101]

We're talking about a new Quake, for SP we have HL and similar

[BababooeyHTJ]

We're talking about a new Quake, for SP we have HL and similar

Will people play a new quake 3? UT3 didn't exactly sell like hot cakes, with the right tweaks that really was a good twitch shooter. Serious Sam 3 isn't exactly topping the charts.

IMO, we have very few good fps with a good single player campaign these days.

[The|Hunter]

Quake 4 was crap, Doom 3 was crap as well. Then again that was about the time with DX9 that graphics really started ramping up and then all games turned to utter ass.

It's also why the competitive community ended up going back to Quake 3 (Quake live now).

If id software is going to make a comeback on this we need a fast MP game ala Quake 3 or Quake World. Also cut it out completely with the fancy ass graphics nonsense. Lighting, fog, shaddows, all that crap makes for bad games. Remove that crap completely. If you guys want to make fancy graphics go do 3d animation and make movies for Pixar. Fast gameplay, no fancy visuals at all to get in the way of it, focus on MP and ditch SP, and don't bother with any physics crap.

Sadly they won't, and then fans of Quake and Doom can point and laugh at another failure.

So much fail in this, especially that in bold.


FYI that's the whole point in improving GFX, to get closer to those animated like movies.. I for one can't wait for such games that will look like in today's CGI teasers.

Also I enjoy MP more with all those fancy gfx.. lol if it cripples your ability to play good well what can i say, sucks for you. Yea better stick with those old games then

[metalion71]

The only reason for releasing a new Quake arena can be really stupid.It will be only online(arena) and online only games are just as tech shows folr new engines.Even Frostbyte in battlefield 3 had to put a camapign on battlefield 3 to show its tech.that are the times we are living now.
maybemjsut maybe,the good stuff we do ahve in our mind are games for id software made from tthird party companies as return from castle wolfentein(Raven) or really old games...when mister Romero was developinmg levels.
Sorry but for me ID Software is a dinosaur that live because good memories from games really far in time.And if Rage is the best they can do...i hope Armadillo aerospace to be hit if not Carmack has a very dak future in gaming universe.He lived because being a guru in PC graphics.No anymoore since RAGE.The next game has to be a really good one.There can be good vames being console ports as Deus ex:Human revolution.They have to follow that path.Or jusd die as dinosaurs did.

[BababooeyHTJ]

People will complain no matter what they release. They could release Quake 5 and the vary people in this thread asking for it would be the first to complain if they could even pull themselves away for the modern warfare type shooters that they play.

To the people asking for some quake 5, ask yourself why don't you play UT3 or Quake Live? What game are you playing instead? BF3 or something along those lines no doubt?

[clo007]

Just out of curiousity, what sort of work did he or she do?

She was a marketing coordinator there. None of my other friends who are programmers and artist were let go( I have friends that worked on Rage, some currently working on Doom4 and friends that worked/work on Quakelive). However, I do know cuts in those areas were made. I have 10-14 friends and acquittance that work for id software.

[Solus Corvus]

Quake 3 remakes? Hasn't id done enough shooters?

For 17 years I have secretly hoped they would release a flight sim next. Or maybe a turn based RPG. It's sad to watch such talent willingly climb in the box and tape it shut from the inside.

[clo007]

Why do you think Zenimax bought id? id is known for making FPS. Why the hell would they start making RPGs when there are other areas within Zenimax that do that?

[[XC] Oj101]

People will complain no matter what they release. They could release Quake 5 and the vary people in this thread asking for it would be the first to complain if they could even pull themselves away for the modern warfare type shooters that they play.

To the people asking for some quake 5, ask yourself why don't you play UT3 or Quake Live? What game are you playing instead? BF3 or something along those lines no doubt?

I racked up about 25 hours on BF3 and now I'm done with it. Right now I'm playing Q3A/Q3TA/QL and for single player Serious Sam: The Second Encounter. Some of us are truly old skool fans.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I just want a proper arena type FPS shooter. I'm more of a UT than Quake fan (mostly cuz of gametypes onslaught/warfare) but I wouldn't say not to a "Quake 5 Arena" title either. ^^ Cuz these are games I get so addicted to that I can play for years and years and don't get bored, I still yet today play a bit of UT3 even if playerbase is very small now. I can barely get into playing other games these days but great arena shooters easily capture my interest cuz those have a learning curve and require skill & practice to get good at unlike 99% of the games today.

An UT4 title would be a dream come true that would go back to the roots, ie. be an plain arena shooter with tournament layout in like UT2k4 (no more silly stories plz).

I just can't stand games like CoD or BF for some reason, scifi fast paced shooters is where it is at for me.

[Solus Corvus]

Why do you think Zenimax bought id? id is known for making FPS. Why the hell would they start making RPGs when there are other areas within Zenimax that do that?

It was a good move for Zenimax. They got some strong FPS brands and technical knowledge. But I was talking about id.

What about the previous 18 years of life for id software before they were bought out? Was it all just preparation for that event? Usually if you stick with something it's because you do it really well or are getting better at it. IMO, they peaked a long time ago. Instead of just massaging the brands and fishing for a buyout I would have liked to see them take a bigger creative risk and find out what they could do with a serious non-shooter.

[kromosto]

telling the truth cant be rude. i totally agree with you.

I'm going to be blunt, if not rude.

id hasn't produced any good games (IMO) since before Doom 3. I had really high hopes for Rage and I could not have been any more disappointed. I too am not surprised.