The Quest For Dark Souls On PC

[Final8ty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=OUXw86Vn8ko

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012...k-souls-on-pc/

http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/sh...94&postcount=5

http://petitionbureau.org/DarkSoulsForPC Published signatures

http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/sh...postcount=1643

[Vardant]

Not gonna happen, but signed anyway.

[Dainas]

yeah seriously, is there was any reason it would have happened already. Though to be fair considering how downright sadistic this game is; the developers wisely predicted that is another layer to motivate piracy. Lets be fair, how many would pay $60 to a game that makes you hate life despite it's addictive gameplay, when they can pirate it and avoid the temptation of ahole invaders?

[quattro_]

Porting a game to PC is asking too much these days......

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[DilTech]

Namco is actually EXTREMELY open to putting games on different platforms if it makes sense on a business level. I've gotten to discuss things with Harada (Tekken front man) via his translator and from what I can gather Namco's stance is simply that if there's an overwhelming proof of demand for a game to be on a specific platform, they will put it out on said platform.

Right now we're trying to get them to put Tekken Tag 2 on the PC, considering how inferior the console port seems like it's going to be to the arcade version.

[zanzabar]

wasnt atlas supposed to have demon souls, 3d dot game heroes and katherin on the pc as well as there are keyboard and mouse icons left over in them but they did not.

[StalkingButcher]

Now's the time to get a ps3.

They're cheap in stores, even cheaper second hand and/or broken.

Games like Demon and Dark Souls, and upcoming Final Fantasy XII-2, Ninokuni, Tales of Graces F and even possibly Tales of Xillia.

That is endless hours of JRPG entertainment!

If you haven't got a tv, most monitors could hook up to ps3 nowadays. Would sure look crisp on such high pixel density.

[zanzabar]

Now's the time to get a ps3.

They're cheap in stores, even cheaper second hand and/or broken.

Games like Demon and Dark Souls, and upcoming Final Fantasy XII-2, Ninokuni, Tales of Graces F and even possibly Tales of Xillia.

That is endless hours of JRPG entertainment!

If you haven't got a tv, most monitors could hook up to ps3 nowadays. Would sure look crisp on such high pixel density.

hate to break it to you but it looks even worse on a monitor as they dont upscale well and the ps3 only every use 720p unless u are playing gta5 (upscaled 1080 with no AA so it looks worse than 720p mode) or a 2d psn game

[XSAlliN]

From what i've heard from those playing the game - it lags on PS3... and "obviously" they can't do much about it...

[Final8ty]

http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/sh...postcount=1643

[Vardant]

That's better. Still, only 65k people signed? After it hit every single gamer web I read. That's really low.

[crash5s]

It will never happen and they'd be idiots to do it.

It's a Japanese style RPG. The Japanese do not game on the PC at all, they hate it. PC gaming is for odd dating or rape simulation games and the rare port there. It pretty much doesn't exist. Most of their gaming is portables and then consoles. Furthermore most Japanese style RPGs, strategy RPGs, and shooters (not FPS style though) never come out in the US. The reason being they tend to bomb spectacularly for being way to hard (many are outright sadistic) and having artistic choices that western gamers don't like. It's often a full on money loser.

People that like balls hard Japanese style RPGs over laughably easy western PC style RPGs have always bought them via import and owned the native hardware for the games. Which has made attempts to release them outside of that hardware fail even faster as your core crowd wouldn't be caught dead wasting time on PC gaming and the gamers that are on there are used to joke western RPGs. If you enjoy Japanese games you're on the PS3 for RPGs, XBLA for shooters, and probably have a DS and PSP, you're not gaming on the PC though.

It just doesn't make a ton of sense at all to release hard or complex Japanese games on the PC at all. It's the wrong platform in just about every way with the wrong core gaming group.

That all said there is a bit too much hype about this game. It's not even all that hard or all that good for a Japanese RPG. Is it harder than a western RPG, yes, but western games are easy sauce. If you're used to western style RPGs from western devs (which really come from the PC here) yes it's kinda hard, but that's only because western games have always been easy and in the past the Japanese purposely made the few RPGs they sent here easier as their data showed hard games didn't sell well here. However it's not hard if you aren't ADD and stupid. Nothing about it is unfair, and none of the normal enemies you fight do anything that's hard or cheap. The catch is that just about anything can kill you extremely quickly. So if you try to run through an area, fight multiple things at once, or treat anything like a hack and slash you're going to die quickly. Combined with the fact that once killed you lose all the souls you had and that grinding up levels is a fairly futile strategy all it takes is a moment of impatience or getting y and the game will slap you silly and you'll get frustrated. But if you treat every basic enemy is a life or death duel and move slowly it's not that bad as each enemies attack patterns are fairly straight forward and easily countered provided you're only fighting one thing at a time.

If you want a plot or anything like that, the game has well... none of that honestly. It's pretty much a short text intro a short text ending with a few people you speak to briefly along the way. None of which have anything to say of real value.

Right now we're trying to get them to put Tekken Tag 2 on the PC, considering how inferior the console port seems like it's going to be to the arcade version.

I hope you realize the fault in this right? The arcade hardware that Tekken Tag 2 runs on is a PS3. That's been the case since the first Tekken which is why they always used to land on Sony platforms. Tekken 5 was system 256, or a PS2 kitted for arcades. Tekken 6 and Tag 2 are system 357 which is a PS3. So they aren't porting when it comes to moving it to the Playstation. Fighters do fairly well in the west so those always get ported. Though I wouldn't play a fighter on the PC as all the best players are on consoles. But if you want to play a port and not be able to play against the best players I guess you could play it on the PC, kinda silly though.

[JudgmentJay]

That all said there is a bit too much hype about this game. It's not even all that hard or all that good for a Japanese RPG.

I think the hype is deserved, unless you're talking about the difficulty hype... blame Bandai Namco for that. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are amazing games. I personally find the atmosphere, the music, and the lore to be top-notch. I've put hundreds of hours into each and I've never gotten bored. I think when people say the game is "hard," what they really mean is that it's punishing, which is definitely true. The AI is too dumb for it to be considered truly difficult. Anyway, I would probably play Dark Souls on PC assuming it got some graphical improvements... or hell, just a smoother framerate. Signed!

[crash5s]

What "lore" are you talking about? Both of the games start with a brief sort of intro. Not even CGI or anything like that just someone talking about the odd world, it also doesn't really tell you squat. You're interactions throughout the game are limited to a minimal amount of NPCs who don't even really give you much information at all. Just some stupidity about why they are on the same quest as you are (that was again, explained in the intro with all the depth of an 8 bit Nintendo game) if that (others just say "I'm looking for a sword"). The ending is just as empty as the introduction.

There is about as much "lore" in the game as the original Zelda for the NES, and certainly far less than Zelda II for the NES.

I don't fully blame Bandai for it. When the original Demon Souls came out nobody had heard of it. Those of us that simply import Japanese games regularly got our hands on it and started playing. It was only after a few western reviewers got their hands on it and full into a full on panic mode and started screaming about how hard it was that it earned it's reputation. Plus the idiotic comments from gamers who play games like Elder Scrolls about how "impossible" it was and it turned into some sort of badge of honor. I found that odd since by that time there were flawless runs being posted all over the usual channels for these sorts of games. And the real ooomph of the game was creating tricked out builds and then storming into other peoples worlds and dueling them, not the single player campaign which was pretty much just used to farm up the right sort of items to fully upgrade your weapons so you didn't get bulldozed when you ran into some dual katana wielder.

[JudgmentJay]

What "lore" are you talking about? Both of the games start with a brief sort of intro. Not even CGI or anything like that just someone talking about the odd world, it also doesn't really tell you squat. You're interactions throughout the game are limited to a minimal amount of NPCs who don't even really give you much information at all. Just some stupidity about why they are on the same quest as you are (that was again, explained in the intro with all the depth of an 8 bit Nintendo game) if that (others just say "I'm looking for a sword"). The ending is just as empty as the introduction.

I think you're confusing the terms story and lore. The story is indeed minimal, but there is a ton of lore. Virtually every item, armor, weapon, etc in the game has some lore attached to it. Through a combination of these item descriptions, NPC interaction, and simple observation of the environment you can piece together the kingdom's history. Just like everything in the Souls games, it's not handed to you on a silver platter, but it is there if you look for it.

[crash5s]

Thanks kinda the case, but it's still vague and rather vapid. I guess a better way to describe it is that if you want an RPG with a really fleshed out world or any sort of a plot, these games aren't it. Which isn't a bash on them, that's not what they set out to do. If you're getting into these games you're pretty much doing it for the gameplay, of which the most prominently featured and talked about items is how hard they are. And the ironic thing about that, is for Japanese games they really aren't that hard at all.

If you're looking for hard or very good RPGs your best bet is just to suck it up, buy a PS3, and go for anything from a Japanese dev. Avoid American developers at all costs especially if they have a background in PC gaming.

Japanese are odd, they know what they like and they do it well, but it's a rather narrow mix of stuff.

[mutantmagnet]

That's better. Still, only 65k people signed? After it hit every single gamer web I read. That's really low.

You can't just look at signatures. Namco won't. Yet I agree with other data there is some reason to be concerned about the level of interest the pc gaming community has.

http://boardreader.com/s/dark%20souls.html


Discussions of Dark Souls has kept at the same level as past discussions leading up to Christmas but it has recently dropped off rapidly.

[Final8ty]

You can't just look at signatures. Namco won't. Yet I agree with other data there is some reason to be concerned about the level of interest the pc gaming community has.

http://boardreader.com/s/dark%20souls.html


Discussions of Dark Souls has kept at the same level as past discussions leading up to Christmas but it has recently dropped off rapidly.

I'm sure the discussions has dropped off but that search is not accurate, because it only looks for the thread title and posts that mention the specific word/words and not how many posts or comments were made in relation to in the threads.

[Den Leiw]

I have a PS3 but multiplatform games tend to lag and not be very optimized for that console so a PC version would be welcome but I highly doubt this is gonna happen too.

[Craftyman.]

I'd play it, heard a lot of good things about this one. Don't have a PS3 unfortunately otherwise I might have picked it up. Hope to see it on the PC.

[JudgmentJay]

https://www.facebook.com/darksouls?s...52678381442367

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/sho...88&postcount=2
http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/sh...postcount=3307

Looks like it's all but confirmed.

[JaD]

I couldn't care less but...

It will never happen and they'd be idiots to do it.

[Manicdan]

theres not many things that i "like" on facebook, but this was one of them

also i didnt find demon souls all that hard. i think about 4 coworkers all picked up the game. a few got past the first 2 bosses, one got past the 1 level of each zone. im the only one to have beaten the game and i got up to level 120ish.

the only tip i have for people, stack health at the beginning, so it takes 2 shots to kill you and your chances of living are astronomically higher.

[GoldenTiger]

https://www.facebook.com/darksouls?s...52678381442367

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/sho...88&postcount=2
http://forums.namcobandaigames.eu/sh...postcount=3307

Looks like it's all but confirmed.

Niiiice.

[clayton]

Adults can finally play this game.