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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
    And who says it's FXAA?
    Well at least I know FXAA will be added but perhaps there's another entirely new method we don't know about too but that sounds somewhat unlikely.

    - Timothly Lottes is from nvidia is actively participating in FXAA development, v4.0 seems to be quite a step forward
    - The FXAA option hasn't been available in Nvidia cpanel but through registry tweaks => will probably be added to nvidia cpanel with the first official GTX 680 driver
    - My guess is FXAA v4.0 will be announced/released at the same time as GTX 680
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    it could easily be 25% faster in one benchmark. that happens all the time! meaningless statistic.
    yep, taking everything with a grain of salt at the moment, early news has a habit of proclaiming "up to 80% faster" when you dig into the validity of the comment would translate roughly into "up to 80% faster, at physics, in 1 synthetic test, on a full moon and Shakira's Hips don't lie playing in the background, otherwise ymmv"

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    Quote Originally Posted by prava View Post
    Lets be honest, guys. Does anybody believe that a GK104 can be much faster (say, more than a 5%) than a 7970 while having LESS power consumption?
    Its Nvidia they always have more, faster and greater than the rest as they say even a 100dollar card is faster than their competitions fastest high end card. Its all about how you measure your e-penis simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
    What's so funny about a company's midrange card being powerful enough to topple their oppositions high end?
    Really? Since you call it midrange, where's the high end?
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    GK110 is High End... expected from August to end of this year...

    As Nvidia seems not to have a problem to get in front with their small GK104... GK110 will show up later with no pressure at all =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
    Well at least I know FXAA will be added but perhaps there's another entirely new method we don't know about too but that sounds somewhat unlikely.
    They're also working on SRAA. So who knows how many other projects we haven't seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krautmaster View Post
    GK110 is High End... expected from August to end of this year...

    As Nvidia seems not to have a problem to get in front with their small GK104... GK110 will show up later with no pressure at all =/
    Considering the rumoured GK whatever number isn't even in production (rumours) means that the current 104 is their high end chip.

    Also if you believe Nvidia is happy when they can do a draw with AMD you are wrong. If they could release, push out a faster card they will do so as soon as they humanly can. They want to win on everything and not on luck and limited to 1080p.

    As it looks now the rumoured GKwhatever number of Nvidia will be closer to the release of AMD 8whatever number than they are to the 7xxx series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prava View Post
    Lets be honest, guys. Does anybody believe that a GK104 can be much faster (say, more than a 5%) than a 7970 while having LESS power consumption?
    Why the hell not? Is it really that inconceivable that Nvidia could have have outted a more efficient design than AMD? Really??

    You can't base this on past designs alone. That would be like bad mouthing Intel prior to the conroe launch soley on the track record of the pentium 4, " Do you really expect Intel to come out with a cpu thats faster and uses less power than a 64 X2??" We all know how that played out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyck View Post
    Considering the rumoured GK whatever number isn't even in production (rumours) means that the current 104 is their high end chip.

    Also if you believe Nvidia is happy when they can do a draw with AMD you are wrong. If they could release, push out a faster card they will do so as soon as they humanly can. They want to win on everything and not on luck and limited to 1080p.

    As it looks now the rumoured GKwhatever number of Nvidia will be closer to the release of AMD 8whatever number than they are to the 7xxx series.
    Exactly. It's funny seeing people spreading BS about a chip we have no info about, with no release date, as if it was going to be launched tomorrow. Might as well call Tahiti midrange, which is not, and whatever comes in the next generation 9 months later high end.
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    GTX 680 25% more fast HD7970 say PcInLife GTX 680 = HD7970@1200MHz?
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    With no probes at all...ok continue the Hype!!.I already ahd two gtx 580 for real cheap for the micro atx computer.And i just bought two waterblocks for cheap too.All because people read that next GTX 680 is a really killer one.
    If those percentages were right(i hope they will ebcause all you waiting for the card) is almost as much as 50% faster than actual GTX 580.But with no probes is the same as saying I am 100% moore handsome than all you boys.
    So please,continue the hype.I will loveto get a tri sli based system on obsoletes GTX 580.I will adopt your porr homeless chicks.It willgo to a good home with an also obsolete Maximus Extreme IV and an obsolete Sandy Bridge Core i7 @5200 24/7(actuallñy enjoying a tri sli of ancient obsoletes GTX 480...).
    I hope someone will post real info about kepler someday.Until then it can be called the"Oficial nvidia trolling off topic topic".Bye for now,good luck and lightspeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prava View Post
    Lets be honest, guys. Does anybody believe that a GK104 can be much faster (say, more than a 5%) than a 7970 while having LESS power consumption? I don't believe in miracles whatsoever, and this is something that has never happened before, not accounting for failures on either side. Either way, performance/power-consumption is more or less even within the same node for both brands (provided there are no mistakes, such as GF100 or R600).
    Quoting this for emphasis since I want to bring up some points here:

    Tahiti is the first AMD core that puts a ton of focus on compute and DX11 rendering rather than being a unified architecture with some DX11 bits tacked on.

    Fermi was built from the ground up for compute and DX11.

    AMD is currently grappling with the heat, power consumption and die space (albeit at on a more efficient process technology) restrictions that NVIDIA went through with Fermi.

    As mentioned by NVIDIA in several public presentations, Kepler is meant to be a second generation "ground up" architecture which essentially means they have learned from past experiences and have focused upon perf per watt. At least that's what this slide from 2010 says.

    AMD is in many ways still on their 1st generation dedicated compute / DX11 architecture due to Tahiti / GCN skipping 32nm and instead waiting for 28nm to come around.

    Take that as you will. Those are just the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Take that as you will. Those are just the facts.
    Reading between the lines I take that as you're saying passively that GTX 680 is really that impressive chip this thread is making it to be. (don't take this seriously)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Quoting this for emphasis since I want to bring up some points here:

    Tahiti is the first AMD core that puts a ton of focus on compute and DX11 rendering rather than being a unified architecture with some DX11 bits tacked on.

    Fermi was built from the ground up for compute and DX11.

    AMD is currently grappling with the heat, power consumption and die space (albeit at on a more efficient process technology) restrictions that NVIDIA went through with Fermi.

    As mentioned by NVIDIA in several public presentations, Kepler is meant to be a second generation "ground up" architecture which essentially means they have learned from past experiences and have focused upon perf per watt. At least that's what this slide from 2010 says.

    AMD is in many ways still on their 1st generation dedicated compute / DX11 architecture due to Tahiti / GCN skipping 32nm and instead waiting for 28nm to come around.

    Take that as you will. Those are just the facts.
    Makes sense to me (:

    So nvidias new 'ground up' arch is sorta based on fermi so that they had a good starting point from to make this round of cards

    Whereas this is amd's completely new ground up arch on a new process and although it performs great i'm guessing the Next arch which will be based on this arch should be a lot better as they theirselves have a decent place to start from
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
    Reading between the lines I take that as you're saying passively that GTX 680 is really that impressive chip this thread is making it to be. (don't take this seriously)
    I am actually saying that NVIDIA stated publicly long ago what their intents were for Kepler. Whether or not they attain those goals will be seen soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    I am actually saying that NVIDIA stated publicly long ago what their intents were for Kepler. Whether or not they attain those goals will be seen soon enough.
    My definition of soon enough clearly does not match others' !

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    Anybody wanna sell their EVGA GTX 580? Thinking SLI 580s would be good enough for me The way that this thread is going, the price of this card is going to be astronomical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX View Post
    Anybody wanna sell their EVGA GTX 580? Thinking SLI 580s would be good enough for me The way that this thread is going, the price of this card is going to be astronomical.
    That's what I'm waiting to see as well; supposedly it looks like I am going to get back a pair of GTX580s from RMA after one of my 2 GTX470s died.

    That and I'm waiting to see how virtu mvp does in SLI if and does it work; cant test it as I'm down my cards until next week
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    wow so much excitement over kepler (when you got 3x 3gb 580 it dont matter that much ) guys kepler is nothing its only 2.5x the fermi

    maxwell on the other hand is supposed to be 10x the kepler.. now that one is going to be interesting.. prepare yourselves for next years internet buzz its going to be nuts!

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    hahaha..

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    I'm excited to possibly own an Nvidia card after 8 years of AMD, I hope all the hype is true.
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    I highly doubt that the gpu that Nvidia planned to use for their midrange product is 25% faster than a card thats already 10-30% faster than their previous gen top card. I've never seen Nvidia release a mid range product that much faster than their previous generation's top of the like model. At least not in recent memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    Exactly. It's funny seeing people spreading BS about a chip we have no info about, with no release date, as if it was going to be launched tomorrow. Might as well call Tahiti midrange, which is not, and whatever comes in the next generation 9 months later high end.
    +1
    i wasn't about to comment seeing the way this thread goes but its clear as hell that nvidia had problem (3 month late anyone ?) with their true high end (not efficient enough ? yield issues? who knows) so they added oc (aka turbo function) to beat 7970
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    So for the last 3 months Nvidia talked about Uniengine and then Uniengine and more Uniengine and finally Uniengine. And then takes the best 5 seconds from all the benchmark run, makes a graph and then proudly shows it everywhere.

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