Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
^^^ A logical assumption taking into account AMD's release of the HD7xxx cards, but it seems that even with the current performance leading card... AMD continues to loose discrete market share to nVidia.GK104 is seeming more and more like a stop-gap card to keep Nvidia from hemorrhaging any more customers to AMD.
http://www.techspot.com/news/47593-j...ket-share.html
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I'm honestly not too happy with either company at the moment... AMD undershot and over-priced, and NVidia are going to be able to dominate it but won't release their high end because they don't even feel the need to. The blame seriously does sit on the shoulders of AMD though.
Bad time to be a consumer, but a good time to be in the business (or be an investor).
What's so funny about a company's midrange card being powerful enough to topple their oppositions high end?
This was market share for Q4 2011.. (ended on dec 2011 ) the 7xxx was not even out at this time ...
With Trinity coming, i dont think the discrete cards will say anything then in the market in the future, as AMD have a good part of his entry discrete gpu sales, who goes on APU now. ( AMD lead over Nvidia in global gpu market share ..( 25.8% vs 15.7% ).. And when both Nvidia and Intel have seen their sales down at this period, AMD was the only one to gain marketshare.
@Diltech: If we trust what Nvidia have posted : GTX680 is the high end, this is the flagship card ... Is it gk104? is it not ? lets wait the 22th for know all . ( if date is confirmed ).
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nice photo, a photo is not a bechmark though.
is it me or has the pcb layout changed substantially since the 500 series?
Why is there a paper covering the PCIe interface?
What I like about this layout is that for waterblocks there is no barrier for the waterchannels (like with the Gainward Phantom) from a wall of capacitors. They're neatly on the edge of the PCB.
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25% + average would be very good for a GK104 based card.
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So the new performance chip from Nvidia is 50% faster than GTX 580 in average, with half the bus and almost half die size. Impressive if true.
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I hope it is true that it is 25% faster than a HD7970. That means the HD7970 will drop in price and so will current cards, by a decent amount. If you could get a HD7970 in the $400 to $450 range, then maybe the GTX580's will drop to $300. Competition is good for the consumer.
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Is NVIDIA bringing yet another version of AA into the game?
http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-49888-1-1.html
FXAA isn't what I'd call new... I guess they'll finally officially put it into the nvidia cpanel as these cards launches and no that's no way MSAA 8x to the left.....
I would rather see SMAA being developed, FXAA isn't that great, way too blurry as you can also see in this zoomed in picture even.
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it could easily be 25% faster in one benchmark. that happens all the time! meaningless statistic.
Lets be honest, guys. Does anybody believe that a GK104 can be much faster (say, more than a 5%) than a 7970 while having LESS power consumption? I don't believe in miracles whatsoever, and this is something that has never happened before, not accounting for failures on either side. Either way, performance/power-consumption is more or less even within the same node for both brands (provided there are no mistakes, such as GF100 or R600).
Keep in mind that Pitcairn has an efficiency similar of 7970...which means that none of them have weird efficiency and, thus, it should be kinda easy to extrapolate the max performance of gk104 based alone on such numbers. I frankly expect around 7970 numbers with...MAYBE, a tad of less power consumption. But expecting to take less power and perform 25% better...well, they say that its free to dream
the picture is not a slide, its taken by a camera so keep in mind some lighting trick happens there.. and yes you are right there will be FXAA option in control panel but there is also another AA option as well, which starts with an delicious animal name lol..
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