Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[Andrew LB]

An NDA doesn't mean that the market is getting something soon. It just means press will begin getting information soon.

For example, the Fermi NDA was signed ~6 months before the cards were released.

I'm not saying that will be the case this time but NDA reception is a poor indication of actual release dates.

Considering that these upcoming chips are based on Fermi instead of some completely new architecture/design... how long prior to GTX580/570 release did nVidia issue the NDA?

[Lanek]

taking bets on what the name 670 ti means.

670 ti is the full gk104 chip?
670 is the cut down gk104 chip? gk107 is good enough to be 660?
680 chip will be cut down gk100? 690 chip will be full gk100?
no cut down gk100 geforce because they're all going to tesla and quadro? or no full gk100 geforce?
what else?

crazy town. nvidia is months behind amd/ati again. and we've almost no idea where they're going with this.

If all this is true, this is not a question of good, ... If they have only the GK104 ready now, they need to launch something, they will change the number scheme, according to their marketing plan...

Considering that these upcoming chips are based on Fermi instead of some completely new architecture/design... how long prior to GTX580/570 release did nVidia issue the NDA?

580 and 570 was really a specific case.. dont forget it was a fixed and " ameliorate " Fermi ... Not really as Nvidia have plan to still work 8months later on Fermi after the release.

SKYMTL is right, and if their future card is planned to be launched in 1-2month anyway. i think the question is not really how many time is the NDA active or not.
( There's different NDA too, press, software developpers, testers etc etc )

[Andrew LB]

^^^ I know there are varieties of NDA's, so to keep things somewhat accurate... it would be best to ensure the equivalent NDA's are used when comparing time between signing and product release.

[SKYMTL]

Considering that these upcoming chips are based on Fermi instead of some completely new architecture/design... how long prior to GTX580/570 release did nVidia issue the NDA?

ALL Fermi-based cards were covered under the same NDA.

[Andrew LB]

Seriously? Both GTX480 and GTX580 were covered by the same NDA? From my experience, such agreements typically cover a single product generation from top to bottom. I've never seen one that covered two generations of products a full year apart.

[Andrea deluxe]

Seriously? Both GTX480 and GTX580 were covered by the same NDA? From my experience, such agreements typically cover a single product generation from top to bottom. I've never seen one that covered two generations of products a full year apart.

but.... LOL

SKYMTL intended gt440/gtx460/470/480


gtx570/580 and 560/540 are the second launch...

LOL

[SKYMTL]

Seriously? Both GTX480 and GTX580 were covered by the same NDA? From my experience, such agreements typically cover a single product generation from top to bottom. I've never seen one that covered two generations of products a full year apart.

Naturally, it didn't list the cards by name but it was worded broadly enough that they didn't need to send a second NDA for the 500-series.

[bamtan2]

For example, the Fermi NDA was signed ~6 months before the cards were released.

that must be because it was horribly broken and surprised nvidia with how behind schedule it got...

[SKYMTL]

that must be because it was horribly broken and surprised nvidia with how behind schedule it got...

Ummmm....no. Typically, NDAs are signed months beforehand. Nothing odd about that.

[UrbanSmooth]

that must be because it was horribly broken and surprised nvidia with how behind schedule it got...

LOL, Nvidia is not surprised, nor are we!!

[cold2010]

NVIDIA GeForce Kepler GK107 (Engineering Sample)

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheXtremeAnalyst

3DMARK 2005 (1024x768)
31734 3DMarks

3DMARK 2006 (1280x720)
23893 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 9651
HDR/SM3.0 Score 11408
CPU Score 6274

3DMARK 2011
P3818
Graphics Score 3521
Physics Score 6725
Combined Score 3767
GT1 17.27
GT2 16.70
GT3 21.08
GT4 10.41
PT 21.35
CT 17.52

3DMARK VANTAGE
P16079
GPU Score 15435
CPU Score 18739
GPU Test1 47.83
GPU Test2 42.50
CPU Test1 2542.01
CPU Test2 24.39
Feature Test1 37.90
Feature Test2 5.00
Feature Test3 28.70
Feature Test4 68.89
Feature Test5 64.51
Feature Test6 69.61

RESIDENT EVIL 5
Average 111.5fps @ 1920x1080

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=1881

[Andrew LB]

that must be because it was horribly broken and surprised nvidia with how behind schedule it got...

Funny how GK106 wipes the floor with Cape Verde when all the naysayers claimed it wasn't even going to keep up with Turks. I'm glad you enjoyed the last two months of trolling and general sh*t talk while it lasted. If those benchmarks are any indicator of the higher end cards performance... I have a feeling those fake charts listing the specs were actually really close to the mark.

[Macadamia]

Oh for the love of God just shut your effin mouth for once will ya.

[boxleitnerb]

That would make GK107 roughly 3-4 times faster (in 3DMark at least) than its predecessor, the GF108 (on the GT440 for example).

I looked around and found a benchmark of RE5 variable benchmark with the 3960x and a GTX470, albeit only 4xAA. Result was 133fps vs. the 105fps for GK107.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-17.html

[Kristoferr]

Haha, another nvidia troll casping for air in vacuum.

I hope the march relise is true and the price is low enough to drag those AMD cards back from the clouds. Need one soon, but not going to give away 500€ for one.

[boxleitnerb]

Okay, there is also a GT530 (GF118) that is not really larger than GF108. A mildly overclocked GT530 reaches P1430 in 3DMark11. Then GK107 would only be twice as fast.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2257110_...530_1431_marks

[Olivon]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3960X CPU @ 3.30GHz and 24fps on Physics stage 3DMark 11, scored 6725 on it.
A 3960X scores almost the double (~12000). I vote fake.

[boxleitnerb]

Good call. That raises serious doubts.

[Olivon]

+ DXDiag indicates 295.73 drivers. Problem, GK107 is not in 295.73's nvdisp.inf strings at all ... That's a fake ...

[kuroikenshi]

something similar was mentioned in beyond3d forums as well

[boxleitnerb]

Nvidia is really on lock down apparently. I wonder when we'll finally get real leaks.

[CARDB0ARDfoxx]

I saw on Nvidia's website advertising the GPU Technology Conference and it says that it takes place in May. the 14th to the 17th. So im willing to bet that seeing a Kepler release before then is extremely unlikley. Just my two cents.

[aussie-revhead]

Wow I wish I didn't sell my 7970 so fast now, I guess Nvidia succeeded in spooking the market with this lack of information but promise of plenty....

:-/

[TRiN]

Wow I wish I didn't sell my 7970 so fast now, I guess Nvidia succeeded in spooking the market with this lack of information but promise of plenty....

:-/

Déjà vu

[Dark-Energy]

Wow I wish I didn't sell my 7970 so fast now, I guess Nvidia succeeded in spooking the market with this lack of information but promise of plenty....

:-/

That was kind of a stupid move to sell it honestly. You never want to sell a card unless you have proof or are absolutely sure that the newer card coming out is going to be a lot better that it's worth the money lost. Currently we have so much crap information floating around it seems like Nvidia is panicing and trying to fabricate rumors to scare people away from buying the new AMD cards and there's obviously a reason for it. I have a bad gut feeling this is all just smoke and mirrors. I could just be overreacting, and this new round might just be another 580 vs 6970. Who knows.

But either way, I won't believe anything about Kepler until I read credible proof from a reputable site (anandtech, hardocp, etc). Everything else can just piss off till then.