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    Quote Originally Posted by osiris999 View Post
    1840 post still no info. Still everyone fighting over who they think has the best guess. Still people saying amd/ati is doomed. Amd/ati has been doomed for 15 years now along with nvida intel and amd.
    And that's why this is my favorite thread

    From a spectators point of view, all the trolling, confusion and overall overreacting is pretty amusing to read:p

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    http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/...---jpg-36.html

    On avarage 18% faster than 7970 at 1080p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenTiger View Post
    Really now? No need to try to claim someone's lying/trying to intentionally mislead here.

    Fine, pretend it's 24%... that's still a lot less than 40-50% over the 580. My point stands just fine without all the hyperbole. Why do you think the GTX 680 will suffer at 2560x1600 exactly? It has the same bandwidth as a GTX 580. Even at those #'s it's still 21% faster than a Radeon 7970 if the very-real-looking leaks pan out.
    If you base it solely on Unigene,

    in the 2.0 the 7970 is 41% faster than the 580. I don't know what the 3.0 does more or taxes more, just giving an indication that basing average on a single benchmark is extremely misleading.
    And from what i gather heaven 3.0 seems to favor nvidia alot more as the difference between 580 and 7970 seems to be alot less.

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    Holllyyyyyy cruddddd

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    Good numbers for a small chip (perf/watt ratio is awesome). Tough times for AMD...

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    Yeah, saving them all now, most of the way through... perf looks really nice.

    EDIT: Looks like it gets somewhat bandwidth-constrained at 2560, I have a feeling OC'ing the memory is going to be very rewarding. Other question is, what driver set did they use? 300.99 or the earlier one, 300.65...? Thing's slick overall though, no question! $500 or $550 and it's going to smash...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backie View Post
    http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/...---jpg-36.html

    On avarage 18% faster than 7970 at 1080p.
    wow, silly tom
    the numbers are all over the place, sometimes 8xaa demolishes the 7970, and some times it makes it almost as bad as a 7950. however in total this card is looking very nice. i wonder though if alot of the efficiency is coming from just 2gb of ram and 256bit bus, that might be a bad thing in the upcoming year or two. for 1920 gaming this card is a monster though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backie View Post
    http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/...---jpg-36.html

    On avarage 18% faster than 7970 at 1080p.
    o_0 so damn awesome! Nice one nvidia!
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    Based on real tests by Tom's (18% better overall) and others, the immaturity of the nv drivers still, less power consumer and less heater, less vram, I really can't believe how AMD fan people still claims for the 7970 as on par with it. Come on! NV having gk104 and gk110 (supposed), and knowing gk104 could be better than thaiti (as it is), why should they release a gk110 based vga? to compete with themselves?

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    Looks to be a solid performer overall, Nvidia engineers definitely earned their pay this time around.

    One thing you can be pretty sure of, there's bound to be some nice gains with driver optimizations considering the new uarch.

    The raw performance is more or less in line what I expected really but the overall efficiency of the design is a big surprise, especially compared to previous Nvidia cards.
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    That's very impressive.

    I am so glad now that I didn't jump on the 7970.

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    Made an album backup: http://imgur.com/a/RCDqK

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanical Man View Post
    That too. Its lot better, but still it wont translate to pure game performance.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB View Post
    Heaven benchmark is not everything! I saw these and it doesn't say anything!! Suddenly one heaven test with no proof makes the GTX680 40-50% faster!!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB View Post
    the Pics in this thread says it's equal or +/-5% improvement over the 7970 which means 20-35% at best over the 580!
    Quote Originally Posted by flyck View Post
    twisting things?

    the 7970 led the 580 with 24% on average... that number includes a few titles which were completely cpu limited (starcraft) and were with the release drivers of the 7970 (which according to anand already imrpoved performance in some cases by 5 to 10%). So we are loking closer to 30% and not 15% as you try to falsly inform us.
    even with the best numbers seen so far.. the 680 looks to be less than 10% faster on average. (and that is on 1080p or lower).

    Personally i don't even expect it to be faster on average at all... but its looks to be an amazing chip for its die size and power consumption. (i just hope this chip isn't pushed to far on defaults that even a minimal oc will need additional voltage, thus busting out the power consumption values)
    Quote Originally Posted by Elmy View Post
    Even if it is a little faster than AMD. Nvidia fans are STILL let down.....

    And like that other poster it is probably in a FEW benchmarks....
    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    On maybe 1 or 2 games, hand picked by nV of course.
    What was that again?
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    they do seem to have went for gaming and less for gpgpu where its gets destroyed by the 580 and every AMD 7 serie.

    Great performance though.. dominating at 1080 without AA. Difference seem to fall down alot with AA and higher resolutions, so they seem to be close to either a bandwidth limitation(which will be dificult to get past, seeing they are already running at high frequencies).

    power consumption between the 7950 and the 7970, which is very good for the chips performance (not to say extremely good).
    All in all a worthy opponent from Nvidia for gamers. And finally a 'clean' chip from nvidia. (absolutely no replacement part for tesla though)

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    I gotta say I'm happy the rumors of 680 beating 7970 were true, because other than price 7970 what I would considered a good card.
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    In other news.... MSI Afterburner 2.20 Beta 15 with Kepler support has been released:

    http://downloads.guru3d.com/MSI-Afte...load-2884.html

    - Added NVIDIA Kepler graphics processors family support
    - Added GPU power consumption monitoring for NVIDIA Kepler series graphics cards
    - Added, core clock offset, memory clock offset and voltage offset support for dynamic overclocking on NVIDIA Kepler series graphic cards
    - Fixed issue preventing applying new settings from control shared memory
    - Fixed issue with video capture timer display, causing hours to be incremented erroneously after each 6 minutes of videorecording
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    nice card better then expected graphics performance for me but what is with the gpgpu scores ??? i really expecting much good scores at it.


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    Nipping at the heels of the 6990 and 590 more than not... nice They definately made some sacrifices in the GGPU department which is quite interesting but at the end of the day the bulk of these cards end up in gaming machines so shouldn't be a big issue for most. Will be intersting to see what ends up as a Telsa part down the road however...

    Now the question is when can we expect non reference designs and aftermarket coolers / waterblocks ?
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    Thanks to Olivon and GoldenTiger for quickly backing up the pics.
    Link is down already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoid_zero View Post
    Thanks to Olivon and GoldenTiger for quickly backing up the pics.
    Link is down already.
    An old habit from Tom's Hardware. Important is to be quick

    Big Thanks to Backie

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    Aye, thanks Backie!

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    Air OC result please!!! WTsee 1300mhz GPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristoferr View Post
    Air OC result please!!! WTsee 1300mhz GPU.
    /drool, Sounds... so... good....!

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    Whoa what happened to compute!
    At that rate it's almost as efficient as AMD's oops- old VLIW4 designs.

    For gaming though it's extremely impressive, let's see some price cuts thar on Tahiti, and the 1.5GB versions too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Whoa what happened to compute!
    At that rate it's almost as efficient as AMD's oops- old VLIW4 designs.

    For gaming though it's extremely impressive, let's see some price cuts thar on Tahiti, and the 1.5GB versions too.
    They probably cut it out, hence the small die size

    Look at the efficiency difference between Tahiti and Pictairn too, and you'll see a similar trend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Whoa what happened to compute!
    At that rate it's almost as efficient as AMD's oops- old VLIW4 designs.

    For gaming though it's extremely impressive, let's see some price cuts thar on Tahiti, and the 1.5GB versions too.
    The current state of the NV's OpenCL 1.1 driver is a bit of a mess... ever since the R280 branch.

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