AMD HD7000 Series Launch Date Revealed

[Andrea deluxe]

LOL @ real gamer.

yes....

Have you ever tried a 120hz monitor?

If you've never tried it, you can remove quietly "LOL"



and you think 'plain that if one tries to explain a limit, the fanboys get hot?

[Andrea deluxe]

Yes.. for me it will ( just cause most games will run at 120+fps (huum i say most, i dont speak about metro etc ))... but i think this is a bug with some 120hz monitor, now i remember have read something about this on the release note of a driver. surely fixed since.

Serously i see a lot of peoples with 120hz monitor and AMD 6K, and they dont have this lock it seems.

dx9 game run @ 120, but the dx10/11 no!!!!

[Lanek]

dx9 game run @ 120, but the dx10/11 no!!!!

Bug? i dont see any reason for it (technically ), i mean outside a driver problem.

( but we slightly slide offtopic there )

[kam03]

yes....

Have you ever tried a 120hz monitor?

Yes i have, during the good old CRT days xD

If you've never tried it, you can remove quietly "LOL"



and you think 'plain that if one tries to explain a limit, the fanboys get hot?

? In any case, this should be fixed with Catalyst 12.1

[miahallen]

I didn't notice much difference gaming at 120Hz....to me its a bit overrated (playing BF3)

[Andrea deluxe]

I didn't notice much difference gaming at 120Hz....to me its a bit overrated (playing BF3)

try a game with costant 120fps...

bf3 run like a crap... in most case with 2 gtx580 run from 60 to 120 but crappy....


try L4D....

after 2 days retry to play with 60hz.....

[Andrea deluxe]

? In any case, this should be fixed with Catalyst 12.1

relase note?

where is it written?

[miahallen]

try a game with costant 120fps...

bf3 run like a crap... in most case with 2 gtx580 run from 60 to 120 but crappy....


try L4D....

after 2 days retry to play with 60hz.....

BF3 was running plenty fast when I tested - tri-SLI GTX 580 - 91fps min, 165fps avg smooth as butter.

[Andrea deluxe]

BF3 was running plenty fast when I tested - tri-SLI GTX 580 - 91fps min, 165fps avg smooth as butter.

In my house "run like a butter" is equal to run costantly @120fps.

[RPGWiZaRD]

LOL @ real gamer.

What's so funny? If that's true I would be forced to stick to Nvidia. 120Hz is an important matter for some of us. I didn't stick with CRTs until 2010 for no reason.

[kam03]

What's so funny? If that's true I would be forced to stick to Nvidia. 120Hz is an important matter for some of us. I didn't stick with CRTs until 2010 for no reason.

I find it funny because in my opinion a real gamer should not rely on hardware to boost his performance, he should be able to adopt to change. Then again in what context was s real gamer applied here? if it was referred to professional gaming then I stand by what I said.

[STaRGaZeR]

Andrea deluxe speaks truth. Listen to him kids.

In my house "run like a butter" is equal to run costantly @120fps.

Try a 120Hz monitor + a game that outputs more than 120fps at all times + vsync and you'll understand this quote.

[Andrea deluxe]

I find it funny because in my opinion a real gamer should not rely on hardware to boost his performance, he should be able to adopt to change. Then again in what context was s real gamer applied here? if it was referred to professional gaming then I stand by what I said.

sorry...

but now i repeat with other words:

professional gamer with 120hz monitor (low input lag and low ghosting) need to play @ 120fps.

im very happy if ati enable in newest driver the option to force dx10/11 120fps because professional gamer can choise between ATI and NVIDIA

[RPGWiZaRD]

I find it funny because in my opinion a real gamer should not rely on hardware to boost his performance, he should be able to adopt to change. Then again in what context was s real gamer applied here? if it was referred to professional gaming then I stand by what I said.

For me it's not that important how well I fare in online gaming as I'm not a pro-gamer but the difference is between getting annoyed by sluggish 60/75Hz motion smoothness and 120Hz goodness. I used 100Hz on CRTs and tried a couple of times to get acustomed to 60/75Hz motion in games but it always bugged me to death so went back to CRTs until I picked up this VX2268wm 120Hz LCD in 2010 which satisfies me as motion smoothness goes. 120Hz on a CRT is still a little better but 100Hz CRT motion vs 120Hz LCD is fairly the same though.

Having said that though good gamers get so well in games that they can play on a very constant level in terms of performance so hardware starts to matter, it allows them to play a little better, just like pro athletics can perform a bit better with better equipment. For example ping is very very noticable for me when playing UT3 which is very fast paced and relies quite much on good accuracy. My kill/death ratio is very much related to my ping, with a ping of say 50 ms I can maybe do 30/5 against average/good players on a public server in a DM round, if ping climbs to say 75 ms my ratio might be more like 30/12. I've played this game for like 4000hrs+ so I've gotten quite some comparision of ping's importance at this point.

[miahallen]

sorry...

but now i repeat with other words:

professional gamer with 120hz monitor (low input lag and low ghosting) need to play @ 120fps.

I'm not a professional gamer....if I was I would be gaming...not talking about it on forums. All I was saying is that I tryed it (maybe not up to your standards) and for me, I couldn't tell the difference. I can totally understand the theory about why some could and I would not doubt for a second that some even bennefit from it. I just doubt there are very many around here

[Lanek]

i dont see, technical or volounteer limitation for get v-sync @ 60fps on a 120hz monitor with AMD card (specially if it work in DX9 lol ) ... if something have been broken at a moment on the driver... this will be fixed, if not allready. ( I know there's something with dual DVI link for some to get the 120hz working, but it's a different thing ( in single you can't get 120hz )

If i have time, i will try find a little bit info on this. ( interest me even if we are offtopic ) .

[biohead]

LOL @ real gamer.

you don't understand, real gamers were born in the late 90's

[tbone8ty]

True gamers were born in the early 80's

[Lanek]

True gamers were born in the early 80's

have start play in the 80's. But was Born in the 70's

[generics_user]

i never run v-sync; the additional input lag (or output?) induced by sync isn't worth it (i can live with some tearing every now and then)

[Hell Hound]

+1

[Solus Corvus]

No true Scotsman.

[Hell Hound]

Well some games get texture tearing with out v-sync so I can't say never,but most of the time I don't.
CS or UT3 anyone like right now.

[BababooeyHTJ]

it had been hyped to the point were by a good number of people had it pegged to beat the GTX 580 and then some. instead it was a classic case of get what you pay for. cheaper card, lower launch performance compared to similarly priced competitors. the lack of increase over the 5870 was also a bummer. im not saying they are bad cards. I own a pair of them and have used countless others in systems for my customers. the 6950 unlock was also a major bonus. but overall it was not what people had hoped for.

the 5870 launch on the other hand was excellent. considering it gave close to 40% more performance than a GTX 285 which was the fastest single GPU of the time it was HUGE step forward. know I know full well that Cayman could have never been that type of gain because it was stuck on 40nm but all i am trying to say is that most people expected it to be more than it turned out to be.

With the 7900 series there is almost no hype and it has really come out of no ware thus i think most people will be very surprised with the numbers considering there is no chance to hype the card up...

At the end of the day they still launched 5870 at a little more than what 4870x2 sold for at a little less performance. Cypress didn't really move the price vs performance bar much either. I paid $300 for my GTX280 new almost two years before 5850 launched at $40 less and only a bit more performance. I was completely unimpressed with the Cypress launch. Then the msrp went up a couple of times, I kind of expect the same for 7xxx series.

Andrea deluxe speaks truth. Listen to him kids.



Try a 120Hz monitor + a game that outputs more than 120fps at all times + vsync and you'll understand this quote.

Why would you need vsync with a 120hz monitor? I almost never see tearing on mine and when I do its normally not bothersome.

[STaRGaZeR]

Why would you need vsync with a 120hz monitor? I almost never see tearing on mine and when I do its normally not bothersome.

It kills tearing (it IS present in a 120Hz screen too, just like in every non vsynced video display device) and offers unrivaled smoothness. Don't forget the constant 120fps, it's key here.