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    Quote Originally Posted by -Boris- View Post
    Are you sure the GPU won't limit before that?
    Yup, SLI 2gb GTX560's will beat SLI GTX570's at 2560x1600 for a quick example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
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    Yet with just single GPU the extra memory is probably useless 100% of the time, and with CF maybe 90% of the time.

    But I'm sure the AIBs will provide 1 GB version too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantsu View Post
    Yet with just single GPU the extra memory is probably useless 100% of the time, and with CF maybe 90% of the time.

    But I'm sure the AIBs will provide 1 GB version too.
    Really going to be dependent on the game/engine. Current games, sure, but with more memory being available we'll likely see more textures. Of course we're somewhat limited by other factors (consolitis, lowest common denominator), but more common higher memory amounts might entice developers to take advantage of it.

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    those are some very hich clockspeeds; Atomic RX should be faster than both HD 6990 and GTX 590

    edit: according to the first pic HD7970 is a castrated part and there should be chips with 2304 shaders and even higher clockspees - maybe 7990 is going to be a single chip solution after all and the dual chip card is going to be called 7970X2???
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    those are some very hich clockspeeds; Atomic RX should be faster than both HD 6990 and GTX 590

    edit: according to the first pic HD7970 is a castrated part and there should be chips with 2304 shaders and even higher clockspees - maybe 7990 is going to be a single chip solution after all and the dual chip card is going to be called 7970X2???
    Or this is possibly a "7980" update waiting for the Kepler GK100 to show its colours...
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    those are some very hich clockspeeds; Atomic RX should be faster than both HD 6990 and GTX 590

    edit: according to the first pic HD7970 is a castrated part and there should be chips with 2304 shaders and even higher clockspees - maybe 7990 is going to be a single chip solution after all and the dual chip card is going to be called 7970X2???
    If that's the case, why would they name it the 7970? Wouldn't it have made more sense to call it the 7870?
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    Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
    those are some very hich clockspeeds; Atomic RX should be faster than both HD 6990 and GTX 590

    edit: according to the first pic HD7970 is a castrated part and there should be chips with 2304 shaders and even higher clockspees - maybe 7990 is going to be a single chip solution after all and the dual chip card is going to be called 7970X2???
    It could be false information,supplied by AMD to weed out pre release leaks,of course you theory is much more exiting :p
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    One thing is clear: castrated chips by disabling CUs, lowering clockspeeds on purpose and way too high prices are all caused by the lack of competition. And the chip that might change this is many months away. Yes nvidia, I'm talking to you. Release your ASAP. This sucks, because my 5850 is old as f*ck and I sure as hell won't buy overpriced stuff to replace it. Long gone are the days when you could buy this awesome card for just 230€.
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    the clock speed of thoses Atomic RX is incredibly high. 400mhz more of the original ?

    About the castrated thing, pretty sure it is not the case: it was clear in presentation of GCN in June the 7970 will pack 30 or 32CU... this could be a next model tested, or just a test sample
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    If that clockspeed is true, thats freaking epic. Its not impossible though, if it can hit 1165mhz with stock voltages, a VRM tweak + higher voltages should be able to hit 1335. Should equal the 6990 at those speeds. Jeez
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    Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
    One thing is clear: castrated chips by disabling CUs, lowering clockspeeds on purpose and way too high prices are all caused by the lack of competition. And the chip that might change this is many months away. Yes nvidia, I'm talking to you. Release your ASAP. This sucks, because my 5850 is old as f*ck and I sure as hell won't buy overpriced stuff to replace it. Long gone are the days when you could buy this awesome card for just 230€.
    This definitely draws pause to the current 7970. Now people will want to know if this card is really castrated or not? If so, will they later release it under the same name?
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    Castrated or not (which I really doubt), this card is darn impressive. P11126, single card, stock cooler.

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    The extra could very well be for redundancy. But it's really not clear what those pics are suppose to mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle View Post
    The extra could very well be for redundancy. But it's really not clear what those pics are suppose to mean.
    Good read there, very interesting. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle View Post
    The extra could very well be for redundancy. But it's really not clear what those pics are suppose to mean.
    That's not how they do redundancy...
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    AMD's next-gen GPU family codenamed Sea Islands - VRZone

    While Southern Islands is only just beginning to roll out, a recently ex-AMD ASIC designer's Linkedin profile reveals the possible codename for AMD's next-gen GPU family - Sea Islands.

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    the top section seems to be called "suspended" as if they wont offer a card with 2304 cores
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasa View Post
    as i said nvidia has much the same amount of problems with new release games when in comes to cf\sli and it can take months for them to fix
    I've not had a single issue using SLI though, and had a few that I chose to ignore at the time with crossfire.

    Regarding the GPU performance comment, I'm thinking more along the lines of the GTX 570 outperforming the 6970 in many new and current video games, just like when the 9800 pro used to outperform the Geforce 595, I bought the faster card. Even in Civilization V, the GTX 560 ti outperforms a 6970, but thats only a single case of that, in most others I see that a GTX 570 is ahead of the 6900 cards, but it puts out too much heat for my liking.

    Also prices are being announced on the 7970 now, in the UK its around £450, which I'd never pay for a single cad (there will eventually be a pair of <£200 cards that vastly outperform a single high end which I would rather have).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    I've not had a single issue using SLI though, and had a few that I chose to ignore at the time with crossfire.

    Regarding the GPU performance comment, I'm thinking more along the lines of the GTX 570 outperforming the 6970 in many new and current video games, just like when the 9800 pro used to outperform the Geforce 595, I bought the faster card. Even in Civilization V, the GTX 560 ti outperforms a 6970, but thats only a single case of that, in most others I see that a GTX 570 is ahead of the 6900 cards, but it puts out too much heat for my liking.

    Also prices are being announced on the 7970 now, in the UK its around £450, which I'd never pay for a single cad (there will eventually be a pair of <£200 cards that vastly outperform a single high end which I would rather have).
    The issue with multi gpu is micro-shutter. That's why me and a lot of people will buy the fastest single GPU made by ATi. I got multi gpu of 3870, and even i did have good frames rates, the comfort in playing was not as good if i have a single GPU 30% slower than the multi-gpu set up.

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    The last crossfire setup I ran was 5850's, they gave good frames at the time but my games did not feel smooth to me and usually played better on a single card. My 480's in sli do not have this problem and play smooth. I also have to say that my friend has 6950's in crossfire and I played with them a bit and they felt good to me as well. So IMO both crossfire and sli are getting better and alot of the issues with these setups has been addressed finally. Anyway on topic, These new 7000 series look to be beast, am very curious how kepler turns out in comparison and wish they were coming sooner.....ofcourse we don't know exactly when that will be Its a exciting time in gpu's, just wish there was more excitment/compitition on the cpu side of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    I've not had a single issue using SLI though, and had a few that I chose to ignore at the time with crossfire.
    then i suspect your only playing games that nvidia had some input in making or you are waiting a month or two after the game is released to play as most new release games i have played have had sli problems unless they have a shiny nvidia logo
    although a lot of games you dont notice it as two gtx480\570 have so much power that most console ports can run 60fps solid on a single gpu
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    Gigabyte's non reference 7970:



    And their reference 7970 with a sticker:

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    Just saying... AMD officially denies any hidden cores existing in the 7970.

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