X

    Subscribe to New Ads!

    Receive weekly ads in your inbox!



Results 1 to 25 of 25

Thread: i7 3960X / GTX 580 Lightning / Sabertooth X79 / GTX8

  1. #1

    i7 3960X / GTX 580 Lightning / Sabertooth X79 / GTX8

    So, for a long time I wasn't interested in Sandy Bridge-E because it's basically the same architecture like Sandy Bridge and it has the same annoying overclocking problems. Just like with Sandy Bridge, you'll just have to test a lot of CPUs to find a good one (or be very lucky). Last night, I drove too Leeghoofd's place to have one quick test with the platform before it was launched so I would at least have some hands-on experience with it. It was quite a long bench session: from 8PM untill ~3AM ... but of course a lot of fun!!

    Setup:

    - Core i7 3960X (ES)
    - MSI GTX 580 Lightning (x5)
    - Sabertooth X79
    - Dominator GTX8
    - AX1200 PSU
    - Inflection Point CPU pot
    - Ryba Fat GPU pot

    OC Results:

    - CPU clock: 5320MHz
    - MEM clock: DDR3-2240 CL9-11-10
    - VGA clock (3way): 910/1150 and 925/1150
    - VGA clock (single): 1450/1200 Vantage and 1500/1200 3D11

    - 3DMark Vantage - Performance: 44589 marks with GeForce GTX 580 [-155.0 degrees °C under load] at 1450/1200MHz
    - 3DMark11 - Performance score: 12034 marks with GeForce GTX 580 [-155.0 degrees °C under load] at 1500/1200MHz
    - 3DMark Vantage - Performance score: 62985 marks with 3x GeForce GTX 580 at 925/1200MHz
    - 3DMark11 - Performance score: 19094 marks with 3x GeForce GTX 580 at 910/1150MHz
    - 3DMark06 score: 40409 marks with 3x GeForce GTX 580 at 925/1200MHz



    Pictures:





    Conclusion:

    So, as expected, Sandy Bridge-E is nothing too special aside from the +5% we can easily get in benchmarks such as Vantage and 11. Aside from those two benchmarks, this chip isn't so interesting for overclockers and even with a gem Gulftown you can get close to the performance of an average Sandy Bridge-E. In Vantage, a 5300MHz Sandy Bridge-E will deliver similar performance like a 6000MHz Gulftown; if you're lucky and find a 5500+ chip, you're safe.

    Like I've told some people already: I hate the fact that I care so much about the +5% performance gain we can get by using Sandy Bridge-E. Fact is, however, that it's much easier to get a competitive score with this new chip than with the old one ... it's almost as easy like benching Sandy Bridge.

    Fyi, compare between 3x580 Vantage GT and SBE:

    - 62919 with 6000 i7 990X
    - 62958 with 5300 i7 3960X

    Maxed out GPU completely, need to find better CPU, should probably try the R4E, GTX8 needs to be clocked higher. We'll see.
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  2. #2
    Thermo Bear
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Germany --> near Stuttgart
    Posts
    291
    I realy like the performance/MHz of this chip but the overclocking capability seems to be even worse than with SB-N. Pieter did you test whether LN2/DICE is realy needed on the CPU? Does it even scale on cold?

  3. #3
    Yes, Sandy Bridge-E needs LN2 to reach the maximum clock because the heat output of 6 cores is higher than with a regular Sandy Bridge. We needed approximately -30°C to get 5320MHz stable, but with 0°C we could already check the maximum possible MHz. I think a good single stage will be fine for these chips.

    The binning will be similar to Sandy Bridge regarding CPU MHz, but now you also want to test the maximum memory overclocking of each chip (memory oc differs from chip to chip and also is heavily affected by cold)
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  4. #4
    Colombian OCer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Bogota, Colombia
    Posts
    195
    what about wprime?
    MSI Master Overclocking Arena 2009 Latam Champion / Gigabyte GOOC 2010 Latin America finals Champion

  5. #5
    It's the same like the 2600k in Wprime: same CPC like LGA1366 counterparts. Since you cannot get the same clock, Sandy Bridge-E is not interesting for Wprime either.

    Example: http://hwbot.org/submission/2221280_...60x_97sec_33ms

    Just look at the 4x CPU rankings: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_10...start=&cores=4
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  6. #6
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    109
    Nice scores and pictures Pieter!

    Quote Originally Posted by massman
    Using a mouse to adjust BIOS settings is like driving a car with automatic transmission. Even if you break all speed records, it's still incredibly gay.

  7. #7
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Calgary, AB
    Posts
    2,252
    Disagree. SS was more than enough to max mine out at 5481 and at 1.58v full load temps never exceeded -37. A strong SS is more than enough IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Yes, Sandy Bridge-E needs LN2 to reach the maximum clock because the heat output of 6 cores is higher than with a regular Sandy Bridge.
    MB Reviewer for HWC
    Team OCX Bench Team

  8. #8
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    10,379
    I think massman quoted that too El donko.... he said this : "I think a good single stage will be fine for these chips." It's just behind the part that you quoted :p

    The "yes" might be confusing, I think it referred to "Does it scale on cold ? question... Massman is French , that might be why :p
    Last edited by Leeghoofd; 11-14-2011 at 11:57 AM.
    Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved

    Remark : They call me Pro Asus Saaya yupp, I agree

  9. #9
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Bar,Montenegro
    Posts
    164
    Great inside info..... Thanks for shearing....



  10. #10
    Nice mobo

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by G H Z View Post
    Nice mobo
    For some reason, we asked Asus a mainboard to "overclock with" and they gave us a Sabertooth .

    Maybe we did something to upset them I dunno
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  12. #12
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    10,379
    Why do you say WE ???? That's really upsetting
    Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved

    Remark : They call me Pro Asus Saaya yupp, I agree

  13. #13
    Which 'we' in particular is upsetting you?
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  14. #14
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    10,379
    All of them grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved

    Remark : They call me Pro Asus Saaya yupp, I agree

  15. #15
    Xtremely Bad Overclocker
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    East Blue
    Posts
    3,663
    lol ppl be carefull - sb-e eatz your brainz as you can see at these two individuals
    | '12 IvyBridge - "ticks different"... | AwardFabrik IvyBridge round I by SoF | AwardFabrik IvyBridge round II by angoholic & stummerwinter
    | '11 The SandyBridge madness... | AwardFabrik / Team LDK OC-Season 2011/2012 Opening Event
    | '10 Gulftown LaunchDay OC round up @ASUS RIIE | 3DM05 2x GPU WR LIVE @Cebit 2010 @ASUS MIIIE | SandyBridge arrived @ASUS P8P67

    | '09 Foxconn Avenger | E8600 | Foxconn A79A-S | Phenom II 940 BE | LaunchDay Phenom II OC round up
    | '08 7.438s 1m LN2 | AMD 1m WR LN2 | 2nd AOCM | Phenom II teasing
    | '07 100% E2140 | 106.5% E2160 | 100% E4500 | 103% E4400 | 5508 MHZ E6850 | 7250 MHZ P4 641 126.5% by SoF and AwardFabrik Crew all on Gigabyte DS3P c? and LN2...
    | '06 3800+ X2 Manchester 0531TPEW noHS 3201MHZ c? | 3200+ Venice noHS 3279MHZ c? | Opteron 148 0536CABYE 3405MHZ c? all on Gigabyte K8NXP-SLI compressorcooled

    | '05 3500+[NC], 3000+[W], 2x 3200+[W], 3500+[NC], 3200+[V] 0516GPDW

    Quote Originally Posted by saaya
    sof pulled a fermi on all of us !!!

  16. #16
    Khalam
    Guest
    some really nice benching Lads, really appreciate the hard work you've put in to this if any one will be interested ill be getting my MSI GD65 probably at the end of next week with a 3930k and ill run all the tests on my water setup as well as my single stage. Shame they only support 3 way sli but once Big Bang Xpower 2 comes out ill do quad 580 lightning as well

  17. #17
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Brentwood TN
    Posts
    110
    wow that's amazing!

  18. #18
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    1,121
    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    For some reason, we asked Asus a mainboard to "overclock with" and they gave us a Sabertooth .

    Maybe we did something to upset them I dunno
    Well, you probably asked the wrong person.

    Sabertooth is not too bad, H60, 32GB of cheap ram and a very expensive MarsII to keep things warm...

    http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/722...pack32gblo.png

    Since you are on the cold stuff, the RIVE is the way to go with a good chip and especially good memory.
    Last edited by bingo13; 11-18-2011 at 09:08 PM.
    Why do people claim to know something they do not and then write about it.

  19. #19
    I am Xtreme
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    10,379
    Don't forget to set the ram selection to the max G

    I like the sabretooth, but it's not intended to be used for maximum tweaking. Partly puzzles me why we ended up with this sample as enthousiast website :p I'll try 0802 bios for some more testing, moff to hunt down a better a CPU
    Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved

    Remark : They call me Pro Asus Saaya yupp, I agree

  20. #20
    The Sabertooth is fine for this kind of stuff.
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

  21. #21
    Llunker
    Guest
    Massman,

    i am trying to decide which platform to go with. I am beginning from scratch off an old AMD system. I wanted to go 2600K, then 2700K, the SB-E came out and thought i will for sure go with the 3930K. But after looking at your efforts here I might go back a step or two and go with a 2700K. Would these be somewhat comparable?

  22. #22
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    91
    Nice scores!
    something

  23. #23
    Xtreme Enthusiast
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    502
    Hi Massman. After 2 years I see that you are always...great

    Claudio.

  24. #24
    Great stuff Pieter So out of 5 MSI cards, one could do 1500mhz single card? YOu guys gonna tear it up in 4-way? ASUS only sent you a three way board huh? You prolly pissed someone off over there eh? lol. You need to get a 4-way board and run those LIGHTNINGS in quad man, doesn't GIGA have a 4-way board?

  25. #25
    Don't have the cards anymore, man. Only had a brief moment I could use them.

    Giga has a 4way X79, sure. MSI soon too. Already got the R4E. But I read somewhere CLASSIFIED works too
    Where courage, motivation and ignorance meet, a persistent idiot awakens.

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •