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    3960X review "inpai.com"

    "SNB-E coming snafu! Most powerful flagship core i7-3960X testing
    Source: INPAI. COM. CN/hard mesh "original" 2011-11-11 author: Xie ping Editor: Xie ping I would like to contribute
    1th page: new Intel Core i7-3960X/X79 initial evaluation

    Intel launched at the end of 2008 the most high-end Nehalem architecture Core I7 processors and X58 chipset, lapse of three years, Intel is finally introduced really new high-end alternative to, and that is:Sandy Bridge-E schema and X79 Core I7-3000 processor chipset . Today, we are hard to send nets took the lead in the top-end Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition (3.3GHz) for a comprehensive test , and then they come together to learn about the new platform's performance."

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    I know that the 3960X is in a different class all together to the FX8150 but a comparison of the two would give an contrast between the two. I am not a AMD hater and i know in most cases FX8150 gets outdone by the 2600k but since the BD is a server class arc. a comparison of AMD's entry server class vs Intel High-Low class would be a treat.

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    Please keep in mind that a 12-16c "Opteron 6200" with enhancements will go against the likes of a similar server chips. The above numbers are just there to show the architectural difference.
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    huge memory bw improvement...


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    Nice results for the i7 3960x, though its interesting that in game benchmarks the i7 2600K is slightly in lead, guess because games don't take advantage of more than 4 cores.
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    Happy to see it falls behind in gaming
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    Looks good
    For the nay sayers 10FPS higher in MW3 must surely account for something?
    In time driver optimisation and game optimisation will bring more out of the extra horse power offered by Intel's new SNB-E.
    I am curious as to see how well GTA IV performs on this as that was the only game (other than Shogan 2 andI think Supereme Commander) where you could see a substantial FPS increase from the extra cores.
    Much better than any tat offered by AMD. I was shocked to see my 775 CPU trading blows with a Hex Core AMD the other day.
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    They should have benched it against Westmere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    huge memory bw improvement...
    Or an not up to date software suite ? Seem some scores are a bit off
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    The IPC per core is lower in SB-E because there's more latency in the L3 cache & memory. This explains the drop in most games. Some games will benefit enough from the larger L3 cache to offset the higher latency though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    Or an not up to date software suite ? Seem some scores are a bit off
    Actually, the vast majority of memory bandwidth benchmarks don't seem to accurately show this platform's potential. Sandra is pretty much the only one and considering how buggy that program is to begin with, its very hard to tell if even its numbers are accurate.

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    Should it be 3960X vs 990X???




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    huge memory bw improvement...
    Well ya... Quad channel memory instead of dual channel.
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    I posted that based from previous "comments" that memory bw was bad. maybe a bios fix was issued recently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SubZero.it View Post
    Happy to see it falls behind in gaming
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    It'd sure be nice if those other two cores that appear to be on the die could be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkosem View Post
    It'd sure be nice if those other two cores that appear to be on the die could be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnZS View Post
    Looks good
    For the nay sayers 10FPS higher in MW3 must surely account for something?
    In time driver optimisation and game optimisation will bring more out of the extra horse power offered by Intel's new SNB-E.
    I am curious as to see how well GTA IV performs on this as that was the only game (other than Shogan 2 andI think Supereme Commander) where you could see a substantial FPS increase from the extra cores.
    Much better than any tat offered by AMD. I was shocked to see my 775 CPU trading blows with a Hex Core AMD the other day.
    The 3930K is what I have my eyes on, and my migrate from 775 to.
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    Do you mean Intel's processor driver optimization?

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    he meant game utilization of multi-cores.


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    It'd sure be nice if those other two cores that appear to be on the die could be used.
    is there a graphic/pic or whatever of that? I would appreciate a link pls
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPolice View Post
    The IPC per core is lower in SB-E because there's more latency in the L3 cache & memory. This explains the drop in most games. Some games will benefit enough from the larger L3 cache to offset the higher latency though.
    While I don't pretend to know as much about this as you or anyone else, I wonder if it will effect the performance of the 3930k, the model that is likely to be the most popular among us..It's the only model with 2mb l3 cache per core as opposed to 2.5mb. Even the lower end quad has more cache per core...which makes me wonder if technically, the 3820 has a higher ipc than it's more expensive brother. Interesting, no?



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    By the time games catch up, we won't care about SB-E.... unless it's a second-hand purchase on Ebay. We want stuff that shines on its day of release, not a year afterwards.
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    Only thing that could make this CPU attractive for enthusiasts is >6 GHz benching. And that just may be the reason ordinary SB's stop at 5x multi .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    While I don't pretend to know as much about this as you or anyone else, I wonder if it will effect the performance of the 3930k, the model that is likely to be the most popular among us..It's the only model with 2mb l3 cache per core as opposed to 2.5mb. Even the lower end quad has more cache per core...which makes me wonder if technically, the 3820 has a higher ipc than it's more expensive brother. Interesting, no?

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    To those snickering about the gaming #s...Remember when dual cores first came out? Yea..just wait for games to catch up
    No, the L3 cache latency on the 3820 will still lag behind an LGA1155 sandy bridge. Just because the 3820 has a castrated L3 cache doesn't mean that the latency is better. The design of the chip is still the same as the 3930K or 3960X so the latency will still be the same no matter how much L3 cache there is.

    Games will never be able to fully utilize the hex cores of SB-E, stop dreaming about it. Even if a developer made a PC only game and optimized it from the ground up for multi cores, you'll be lucky to reach full quad core utilization. It's just the nature of gaming code that makes it very hard to run parallel threads efficiently.

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    I see years different with chess programs..and i think it's still a game!
    All my cores on every system i had are always running 100% whole day..and we have for years a chess engine that can handle 2048cores..and that from
    the moment we have seen the core 2 duo cpu's came out!
    So,in the chess world the cpu's are way behind.
    I don' understand people still thinking there are no games who can use multi-cores/cpu's..and we do nothing else then waiting..
    Just check my list under in signature..i only use a chess engine with 32cores..and i get great results..but still waiting to go higher then 24cores/threads systems.
    Normally i should see a 4 x 16core Interlagos system from a friend..hope to see these 64cores running at 100% with chess.

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