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    Geforce GTX 560 Ti 448 SP on november 29th

    Nvidia will release a new Geforce 500-series vga card on November 29th. The new model will be named Geforce GTX 560 Ti 448 and has the following specs: GF110, 448 SP, 320-bit memory bus, 1280 MB GDDR5. Its clocked at 730 MHz GPU, 3800 MHz GDDR5. TDP is 210W, only 9W less than GTX 570 at 480 SP. Looks like Nvidia is trying to get some use of otherwise discarded GF110 chips.

    Source: http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/147...en-29-november

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    There is one more thing to it, its price is expected to be same as MSRP of original GTX 560 Ti.

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    I guess that will be the cheapest way to get triple SLI, but still, it is not as sweet or elegant as GF114.

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    What's that 7? 560 variants? Good god/aliens/government we need a new node.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFQ View Post
    There is one more thing to it, its price is expected to be same as MSRP of original GTX 560 Ti.
    MSRP won't be $250... a bit higher than that.
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    What chip does the original GTX 560 Ti use?

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    i was looking at a 2GB 560 ti...

    now this..hopefully they really a 2.5gb version?
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    GF114 at it's full capable functionalities, as far as we all know.

    This "new" GTX560ti will be using GF110 cores, maybe we should look at it like a GTX565 (between 560ti and 570)
    Are we there yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    i was looking at a 2GB 560 ti...

    now this..hopefully they really a 2.5gb version?
    Why do you need a 2GB card? You think it will make a difference for the resolution of your 30 inch screen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro View Post
    GF114 at it's full capable functionalities, as far as we all know.

    This "new" GTX560ti will be using GF110 cores, maybe we should look at it like a GTX565 (between 560ti and 570)
    I'm really confused now with all these GTX 560s. So this card is supposed to be faster than a GTX 560 Ti? Isn't GF114 chip better than the GF110?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice009 View Post
    I'm really confused now with all these GTX 560s. So this card is supposed to be faster than a GTX 560 Ti? Isn't GF114 chip better than the GF110?
    it is very simple. nvidia makes chips of different sizes, and the biggest chip has enterprise features included because they use it for tesla products. gf100 was the big chip, gf104 was the next one down, and gf108 was even smaller. they respinned those chips to fix problems and named them gf110, gf114, gf118.

    the naming is not clear, but it is also not confusing when you read the facts. it is not clear because similar product names can refer to different chips. so the mobile 560 chip is not the desktop 560 chip. it would make sense if that were so, and that is the kind of thing which government regulates in other industries, but here it is not important enough for anyone important to care.

    this new "560" is like the 570, which is a 580 with parts disabled because of oversupply or broken chips. this is the gf110 chip, which is the biggest.

    the 560ti is the full gf114 chip. the plain 560 is that chip with parts disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice009 View Post
    Why do you need a 2GB card? You think it will make a difference for the resolution of your 30 inch screen?

    I spend the majority of my time working in Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5. It's core, the mercury playback engine (MPE), is heavily optimized and accelerated by CUDA based cards and a lot of features and functions get a tremendous speed up and almost instant timeline renders. They recommend 1GB minimum for VRAM. The difference is well documented with the quadro + gtx580s (with 2GB+) dominating the top of the charts. More VRAM = better performance when editing.

    http://ppbm5.com/DB-PPBM5.php



    I'm not a gamer, otherwise I'd be buying ATI cards.


    Also, are you suggesting more VRAM, 2GB in this case, wouldn't help gaming performance at 30" ? I thought that was the point of it more VRAM, to help for the bandwidth of higher resolutions and screen sizes?


    p.s. Haven't looked at the charts in awhile...Just noticed some SB-E's cracking the top 50!

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    this is GTX570 with some close compute unit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post


    Also, are you suggesting more VRAM, 2GB in this case, wouldn't help gaming performance at 30" ? I thought that was the point of it more VRAM, to help for the bandwidth of higher resolutions and screen sizes?

    No not with the original 560TI.

    The extra 1GB doesnt offer a real FPS boost. Just check the reviews where they compare the 1GB and 2GB versions of the 560ti.
    Its basically to slow to fully use the extra 1GB when gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    No not with the original 560TI.

    The extra 1GB doesnt offer a real FPS boost. Just check the reviews where they compare the 1GB and 2GB versions of the 560ti.
    Its basically to slow to fully use the extra 1GB when gaming.
    cool, well that makes sense. Thanks for straightening it out! So more VRAM helps (in gaming) only when the card is powerful enough to saturate it.
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    This should be good and add a little more muscle to the 560 ti, too bad I just got one but it was open box and only $150, so i cant really complain.

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    I've found a nice green chart but take it with a grain of salt cuz is...well...green.



    On the other hand it looks like it will be a shortage of those cards so here in Eastern Europe we'll don't see them in stores. At least not at the beginning.
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    i will buy 2 of the 2.5gb ones for my 3 monitor surround setup.

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    I for one dont mind turning a few settings, or AA down in the very very few games out there that would actually stutter on 1 Gb Vram at 1920x1200.

    Next year I'll have myself a nice pair of mid range keplers, rather than people stressing out now and mass purchasing tri SLI 3 Gb GTX 580s just so that they can run Ubersampling in Witcher 2, and BF3 + Shogun 2 at 1920x1200 with 8x AA.

    I personally prefer the efficiency of G114. I dont want G110 at all, no matter how fast, or cheap it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    No not with the original 560TI.

    The extra 1GB doesnt offer a real FPS boost. Just check the reviews where they compare the 1GB and 2GB versions of the 560ti.
    Its basically to slow to fully use the extra 1GB when gaming.
    Put two of the 2GB's in SLI and and you have just made one of the slickest surround configurations you can get. You get surround support, more VRAM and considerably more performance than a single GTX 580 for the same price.
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    For triple monitors, you surely need at least 2 Gb Vram ... but will two G114s be powerful enough?

    I would want at least two GTX 570s or 6950s if using triple monitors. This new GTX 560 would actually be good for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelixPC View Post
    i will buy 2 of the 2.5gb ones for my 3 monitor surround setup.
    Do you have links to any of the 2.5gb cards or is that just speculation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenknics View Post
    Do you have links to any of the 2.5gb cards or is that just speculation?
    Well going by history, the 560's always get a double memory version, and i read somewhere that 2.5gb cards will be available.

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    Come on $249.99 with bigass cooler!

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    Typical wonky Zotac cooler. I wanna see some Arctic Cooling behemoths on these cards!

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