best rad ever?

[zanzabar]

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22275

[Captain_Harlock]

Ahhhh, that thing is adorable! Its a very cute and chunky little rad. I am going to have to grab one and give it a shot. Been thinking about a (pointless but fun) loop for an atom build for a while now and I just might go ahead and do it with this little feller. Thanks for pointing it out. ^_^

[lowfat]

Ahhhh, that thing is adorable! Its a very cute and chunky little rad. I am going to have to grab one and give it a shot. Been thinking about a (pointless but fun) loop for an atom build for a while now and I just might go ahead and do it with this little feller. Thanks for pointing it out. ^_^

In for seeing the smallest loop ever.

[aerial]

what a beast!

[OC Maximus]

Wonder if that's enough raddage for an i3 2100 SB. Hmmmm....

[BeepBeep2]

Wonder if that's enough raddage for an i3 2100 SB. Hmmmm....

A = L*W
80x40 = 3200^2 mm
Single 120mm: 120x120 = 14400^2 mm

Single 120mm rad has 4.5x the surface area...plus more airflow, probably near 5x the performance

[OC Maximus]

thanks for the math beepbeep but it has nothing to do with what I was pondering

[TJ TRICHEESE]

I had one of those cooling an xbox 360 for a bit... It did manage to just cool it with some serious airflow but for all practical uses its pointless.

[paulbagz]

Been looking at using one of these for ages now in an Acer L3600 build.

-PB

[eXa]

Even if a single 120mm rad is several times better this little thingy probably just as good or better than the stock SB cooler because the stock cooler is really tiny.

I like the smallest loop ever idea... need a small pump then.

[BeepBeep2]

thanks for the math beepbeep but it has nothing to do with what I was pondering

Hmm, lets estimate
120mm rad with ~1000 RPM = about 100w for 10c delta
Take away 3/4 the surface area...
You get around 25-30w with a 10c delta with quite a bit of airflow

[kikicoco1334]

most adorable rad or what! perfect for mini/micro builds!

i had one a while ago where the rad fits great in a 3.5in HDD bay or a ext 3.5 bay

[Conumdrum]

Best rad ever. Small and inefficient. I would never start a post with that.

I am a man, this is a rad.

http://www.completeradiators.com/sho...=&cmdSubmit=Go

Geeze, some accept small as the norm I guess.

[bundymania]

I own a very similar rad, it´s nice for little ITX / HTPC usage in a Danger Den Tower 9 case...for example

[gmat]

I guess some people dont understand irony

[Captain_Harlock]

Who cares about how well it works? Its like the little rad that could (even if it cant). Its a toy that must be played with just for the pure fun of it. For that reason alone, numbers dont mean anything. Just my two cents on the little guy.

[Manicdan]

perfect for a 1U case, if anyone here plans on using a 1U case and dosnt have a problem with 100db fans.

[Church]

Manicdan: for 1U case much better idea imho would be normal external rad connected with QDCs. Maybe even shared one with several servers. OP was good joke, but when i thought about possible real-world uses of such .. if one's only option is use of such rads then imho it's better to not LC at all. Usually one selects some choice if it's better in some important characteristics. LC with such rads is as efficient as air cooling would be but much much more expensive/harder to assemble/less safe. Just and only for "because i can" builds.

[Manicdan]

i think it might have more real life purpose than "just because"

for a 1U case, with air cooling the air has to go right over the chips. so the front chips get cold air, and the back ones get hot air, and usually they get air after the HDDs. with water cooling you can move things around as needed for optimal cooling. if you put a few of these up front all in a row, they each get cold fresh air. this can make a big deal for a short 4P system, since heat does increase power consumption, it might actually improve total power consumption.

although i agree that it would be best to use larger radiators and share the wealth.

[Church]

In 1U cases i had to deal with, it all gets compensated more then enough by powerful fans/airflow. No one cares about noise at racks in data centers. What other thin cases are there? Low power SFF HTPC? No need for uber cooling there either.
A bit offtopic, but i wouldn't want to see LC in any production server of mine. However safe LC can be made, it IS less reliable then air cooling (yeah, i know i know, nothing lasts forever, and i had to replace one fan in 12 y.o. server recently - can you expect maintenance free LC for 12 years? Or you think that admins would wish for extra work having to do said maintenance? ). Little to no business would want to risk more, businesses rather are ready to pay more for better reliability/redundancy options instead. Also it means custom -> price increase and inability to use brand servers (at least while keeping manufacturer's warranty/support. No warranty = you have to service yourself. Again not what admins would want to do extra for their many and many servers ).
Few cases of liquid cooling at datacenters (or rather usually at few supercomputers) are just that - exceptions to rule. With paying THAT much of course some LC deficiencies can be compensated for. Not for mortals.

[gmat]

I'd see more serious use on portable mobile systems where the hot element cannot be cooled down efficiently on the spot but overall lightness / smallness is still an important factor. I believe i have seen this kind of rad used on mobile lasers for example, or cooling on embarked equipments (the rad being used to cool the hot side of peltiers). Many mobile applications cannot afford using the humongous radiators we use in our sedentary PC cases.
And yeah it would be fun to do the smallest watercooled system ever, problem is the pump though, gotta find a micro one..? Watercool one of those tiny micro systems and put it in a RC car or something, give it a 12V battery for power and wifi and have a rolling mobile webserver or something...

[CedricFP]

In 1U cases i had to deal with, it all gets compensated more then enough by powerful fans/airflow. No one cares about noise at racks in data centers. What other thin cases are there? Low power SFF HTPC? No need for uber cooling there either.
A bit offtopic, but i wouldn't want to see LC in any production server of mine. However safe LC can be made, it IS less reliable then air cooling (yeah, i know i know, nothing lasts forever, and i had to replace one fan in 12 y.o. server recently - can you expect maintenance free LC for 12 years? Or you think that admins would wish for extra work having to do said maintenance? ). Little to no business would want to risk more, businesses rather are ready to pay more for better reliability/redundancy options instead. Also it means custom -> price increase and inability to use brand servers (at least while keeping manufacturer's warranty/support. No warranty = you have to service yourself. Again not what admins would want to do extra for their many and many servers ).
Few cases of liquid cooling at datacenters (or rather usually at few supercomputers) are just that - exceptions to rule. With paying THAT much of course some LC deficiencies can be compensated for. Not for mortals.

In a new data centre in Hong Kong, Google is liquid cooling their servers. Supposedly it's all on a centralised system as well, which must be amazing to have to design.

[tw33ter]

Best rad ever. Small and inefficient. I would never start a post with that.

I am a man, this is a rad.

http://www.completeradiators.com/sho...=&cmdSubmit=Go

Geeze, some accept small as the norm I guess.

That's not a rad... THIS is a rad...

http://www.superiorcooling.co/caterp...-radiator.html

[Church]

CedricFP: correct me if i remember wrong reading once, but weren't most google's servers self assembled ones? and their services are written the way there wont be any interruption even if several servers crashed? NOT the way most businesses servers/applications are. "exception proving rule". Just like data centers exist with all the servers converted to DC power PSUs by which they got noticeable energy savings. Or MS datacenter somewhere far up north to save on conditioning electricity bills. These cases also not making up common mass of 95+%.

[ino]

Actually liquid cooling is being seen more and more in datacentres, mostly with OEM sealed solutions like the Corsair units. Less heat buildup means less aircon cooling required which means less money in aircon bills. Servers are _loud_ and _hot_.