(boomed!)

[Mechromancer]

The stock clocks of the 8150 is higher than the 1100T right? If you have an overclocked 1100T you likely don't have a big motivation to upgrade I suppose. For me, a 940BE owner, it would be a marvelous upgrade. As I'm primarily a gamer now, Intel is looking mighty attractive. As a cpu like the Core i3 2100 can beat it handily in gaming tests, AMD is in for a ride these next few years. Good gaming performance was my ONE wish with this new platform.

Bulldozer might not be all that bad in multithreading @ 5 Ghz.

However single thread it will not be impressive at all. We are back near Athlon 64 IPC in single thread. ><'

This hurts my brain. Hopefully we find out there is some microcode or OS patch that will magically fix things. It seems hard to believe AMD wouldn't just shrink the 1100T and add two more cores. They had to know internally what performance was like, right? They had to have time shrink the current uArch. Oh well, we will know for certain in the morning.

[PetNorth]

Bulldozer might not be all that bad in multithreading @ 5 Ghz.

However single thread it will not be impressive at all. We are back near Athlon 64 IPC in some apps. ><'

Yeah, but its a matter of your priorities and use.

[Frontl1ne]

I'd be really interested to see how Bulldozer goes with BF3!

[PetNorth]

The stock clocks of the 8150 is higher than the 1100T right? If you have an overclocked 1100T you likely don't have a big motivation to upgrade I suppose. For me, a 940BE owner, it would be a marvelous upgrade. As I'm primarily a gamer now, Intel is looking mighty attractive. As a cpu like the Core i3 2100 can beat it handily in gaming tests, AMD is in for a ride these next few years. Good gaming performance was my ONE wish with this new platform.

Well, you can OC 8150 too, can't you?

And it seems it has a lot more OC headroom than Deneb or Thuban.

[BeepBeep2]

Yeah, but its a matter of your priorities and use.

Unfortunately the majority of the public doesn't spend most of their computing time compressing and encrypting data into .rar and .zip nor encode video for hours on end.

A lot of applications are single threaded, and Thuban @ 4.2 Ghz will still hold up very very well in multi-threaded apps vs FX-8150 @ 4.8-5.2 Ghz (what we should expect on air/water)

[Sentential]

I'm just gonna come right out and say it: Zambezi = Willamette. Hopefully piledriver will be like the ole' northies were otherwise AMD might not make it by year's end; not with this lineup at least.

[muziqaz]

still doesnt beat an i3 2100 in gaming...FAIL

wasn't it Crysis which was compiled using ICC with some nice trickery to ignore SSE on AMD cpus?
Crysis was always bad for AMD cpus and GPUs.
And again BD is not beating 2100 in what? To who has the longest e-penis to the magic number of 100fps? Which by the way you won't see the difference from 60fps. All this moaning about the games is extremely ridiculous as modern cpu can drive modern GPUs very nicely above 60fps. And when it is below 60fps it is not even CPUs fault.
As I said before:
you want single threaded super pi cpu, buy core 2 solo
you want some gaming chip only, get some dual core
you want all around chip with great multitasking, good OCing get either some quad core or some 8 thread cpus.

[PetNorth]

Unfortunately the majority of the public doesn't spend most of their computing time compressing and encrypting data into .rar and .zip nor encode video for hours on end.

A lot of applications are single threaded, and Thuban @ 4.2 Ghz will still hold up very very well in multi-threaded apps vs FX-8150 @ 4.8-5.2 Ghz (what we should expect on air/water)

but see, I don't care what people do with their systems. I care what I do with it

[BeepBeep2]

wasn't it Crysis which was compiled using ICC with some nice trickery to ignore SSE on AMD cpus?
Crysis was always bad for AMD cpus and GPUs.
And again BD is not beating 2100 in what? To who has the longest e-penis to the magic number of 100fps? Which by the way you won't see the difference from 60fps. All this moaning about the games is extremely ridiculous as modern cpu can drive modern GPUs very nicely above 60fps. And when it is below 60fps it is not even CPUs fault.
As I said before:
you want single threaded super pi cpu, buy core 2 solo
you want some gaming chip only, get some dual core
you want all around chip with great multitasking, good OCing get either some quad core or some 8 thread cpus.

I notice a huge difference between 60 fps and 85 fps, even 75 fps vs 85 fps...

I'm pretty damn sure you can notice the difference between 60 and 100 fps.

but see, I don't care what people do with their systems. I care what I do with it

...
who cares when you will be the only person buying said CPU? AMD needs to survive.

[muziqaz]

I'd be really interested to see how Bulldozer goes with BF3!

25th is when Bf3 is coming out. Hopefully by then BD will be released

[muziqaz]

I'd be really interested to see how Bulldozer goes with BF3!

25th is when Bf3 is coming out. Hopefully by then BD will be released

[Mechromancer]

I'd be really interested to see how Bulldozer goes with BF3!

Ah yes, a heavily multi-threaded game should prove interesting to see. Games nowadays are generally heavily optimized for Intel's uArch though. I'd like to see the Witcher 2 tested as well. That game is a true test of a modern rig's prowess.

[tbone8ty]

wasn't it Crysis which was compiled using ICC with some nice trickery to ignore SSE on AMD cpus?
Crysis was always bad for AMD cpus and GPUs.
And again BD is not beating 2100 in what? To who has the longest e-penis to the magic number of 100fps? Which by the way you won't see the difference from 60fps. All this moaning about the games is extremely ridiculous as modern cpu can drive modern GPUs very nicely above 60fps. And when it is below 60fps it is not even CPUs fault.
As I said before:
you want single threaded super pi cpu, buy core 2 solo
you want some gaming chip only, get some dual core
you want all around chip with great multitasking, good OCing get either some quad core or some 8 thread cpus.

yes i understand all that...

guess ill be sticking with my 1090t OC @ 4.0ghz no reason for me to upgrade

[charged3800z24]

I'd be really interested to see how Bulldozer goes with BF3!

BF3 beta uses 75% average of my 6core. I bet BD will do pretty good in this game

wasn't it Crysis which was compiled using ICC with some nice trickery to ignore SSE on AMD cpus?
Crysis was always bad for AMD cpus and GPUs.
And again BD is not beating 2100 in what? To who has the longest e-penis to the magic number of 100fps? Which by the way you won't see the difference from 60fps. All this moaning about the games is extremely ridiculous as modern cpu can drive modern GPUs very nicely above 60fps. And when it is below 60fps it is not even CPUs fault.
As I said before:
you want single threaded super pi cpu, buy core 2 solo
you want some gaming chip only, get some dual core
you want all around chip with great multitasking, good OCing get either some quad core or some 8 thread cpus.

Well of course, Crysis is an Intel and nVidia tittle.... So, I'm sure it was coded as such.


I'll be getting BD regaurdless. I have a 990FX board and love tweaking new hardware, specifically AMD hardware.

[SBB]

Am I the only one who thinks these benches are good?

Lets face it, for gaming any decent 3ghz+ CPU will be fine, as you're GPU limited - so saying BD is a fail in gaming is just totally pointles ... who plays games at 1024x768 at 600fps anyway?

In the benches that matter to me for daily use (X264 video encoding and WinRAR personally), this thing blows SB away in my opinion ...

[charged3800z24]

Am I the only one who thinks these benches are good?

Lets face it, for gaming any decent 3ghz+ CPU will be fine, as you're GPU limited - so saying BD is a fail in gaming is just totally pointles ... who plays games at 1024x768 at 600fps anyway?

In the benches that matter to me for daily use (X264 video encoding and WinRAR personally), this thing blows SB away in my opinion ...

I think it did fairly well also. If the price is what they say it will be, then it makes even more sense.

[SBB]

Taken down :\

[roki977]

Yeah, but its a matter of your priorities and use.

No priorities with 2600k. It is good in everything and not so much more expensive and you know it because you own it like me. You will probably save on power bills in first year, most of that, especially if you like to overclock for 24/7 use..
Performance is not bad, bad single threaded perf is nothing new to AMD and people are living with it. Bang for buck is good and the only thing that is really bad are huge power demands and that can kill price advantage over 2600k. Bigger GPU, better MObo, cooling or even water cooling etc...I would like to see how will 8150 work on low budget MB with 4,6 phase VRM not on high end ASUS boards. We will see in the mornig everything..

[Frontl1ne]

Have you guys seen how many people are viewing the AMD subforum :O

[Kylzer]

Interesting results

[stangracin3]

Have you guys seen how many people are viewing the AMD subforum :O

the amd section is kicking intels *beep* lol

275 people vs 45 people

[charged3800z24]

the amd section is kicking intels *beep* lol

275 people vs 45 people

The "FX Benchmarks" in the original tittle brought a lot of traffic,...

[tbone8ty]

im ready

how long now till nda is lifted? <3hrs?

any website reviews go up early yet? guru3d?

any chinese websites?

[Maxforces]

wasn't it Crysis which was compiled using ICC with some nice trickery to ignore SSE on AMD cpus?
Crysis was always bad for AMD cpus and GPUs.
And again BD is not beating 2100 in what? To who has the longest e-penis to the magic number of 100fps? Which by the way you won't see the difference from 60fps. All this moaning about the games is extremely ridiculous as modern cpu can drive modern GPUs very nicely above 60fps. And when it is below 60fps it is not even CPUs fault.
As I said before:
you want single threaded super pi cpu, buy core 2 solo
you want some gaming chip only, get some dual core
you want all around chip with great multitasking, good OCing get either some quad core or some 8 thread cpus.

Crysis GPU--really AMD GPUs sucks

gtx480 owner and my card loses in this game
What are you talking about ? it is not even CPUs fault
CPU test


do you want to see the rest of the game like Civ V,F1 2010,StarCraft II not gpu limited places

[imamage]

Looks like I can skip on Bulldozer then