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    The numbers are actually what I expected as in many test the FX was just marginally faster than thuban even with "two" more cores; probably due to the lower IPC.

    EDIT: For the SCW I started my old Q9450 up again and at 3.6 Ghz does 21000 ppd at around 200W.
    It actually makes me quite sad that the newest CPU's of AMD are only marginally faster and even use more power as a 4 year old quadcore.
    I hoped that we as crunchers could finally support AMD, but I would never recommend the FX series due to the high power consumption especially if overclocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1kmcn1 View Post
    Here is what I am seeing so far:

    What projects are you running - I have a hunch if you run projects that are integer heavy (as opposed to Floating point) you will see an improvement...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis11 View Post
    What projects are you running - I have a hunch if you run projects that are integer heavy (as opposed to Floating point) you will see an improvement...
    I have all of the projects checked at the moment. Which ones are integer intensive?

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    does boinc run on windows 8 because from what i have read win7 dosent handle the cores of the bd properly.
    some games on bd have had a performance boost of upto 10% on win8.
    would be intrested to know if the bd got more points under win8

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    Ok, so going four days at stock setting was more than I could bare. I put it under water, raised the voltage to 1.4v and now have it running at 4.766GHz. Memory is 1600 9 9 9 24. I didn't try to go higher due to time constraints. Temps are 55C running at 100%. The kill a watt has now jumped up to 406W!! We'll see what kind of output this will get for SCW. Not something I would want to do full time. With all these machines running I have run out of sata hard drives for the week, so I will not be able to try Linux. I am not in the mood to reformat again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1kmcn1 View Post
    Ok, so going four days at stock setting was more than I could bare. I put it under water, raised the voltage to 1.4v and now have it running at 4.766GHz. Memory is 1600 9 9 9 24. I didn't try to go higher due to time constraints. Temps are 55C running at 100%. The kill a watt has now jumped up to 406W!! We'll see what kind of output this will get for SCW. Not something I would want to do full time. With all these machines running I have run out of sata hard drives for the week, so I will not be able to try Linux. I am not in the mood to reformat again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1kmcn1 View Post
    I have all of the projects checked at the moment. Which ones are integer intensive?
    I'll have to get back to you on that... I want to say FA@H is but I really don't remember... Any chance anyone does? I know we posted about it sometime a while back...


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    Intel, Intel where fore art thou? Ollie. Ollie oxen free! There are at least 2 Gen 3 PCI-E boards out there. I have one. Asus has updated all bios" for the new procs. Where are they??? BD is clearly stuck at the starting gate and isn't going anywhere.
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    I wanted to be excited about BD, I really did. What I'm seeing so far ... sorry. Not so much. If it used half the power for the returned performance then things might be different but this ... Maybe I was expecting too much, something like what the Athlon XPs did over the P4s, a genuine leapfrog game. Oh well. Maybe next time.

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    at half the powerconsumption i would totally by it. but 230 watts at stock kills a student^^ well gonna grab a 2600k i guess.


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    Guess that depends. As a student, electric use didn't matter to me since it was all part of the flat room and board fee. That's why when I was in college I ran every single PC I could lay my hands on - and all 9 of them get blown away by my i7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1kmcn1 View Post
    Ok, so going four days at stock setting was more than I could bare. I put it under water, raised the voltage to 1.4v and now have it running at 4.766GHz. Memory is 1600 9 9 9 24. I didn't try to go higher due to time constraints. Temps are 55C running at 100%. The kill a watt has now jumped up to 406W!!
    My I-7 980x draws 506W. That includes 6 HDs and 3 monitors. Switching to a GTX 580 and 2 monitors didn't help so the GTX 580 went back.The GPUs were idle. WCG only.
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    my e3 xeon 1235 does roughly 30k PPD, 4200 BOINC and 115w/h 3kwh/day FYR

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    2600k ftw

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    I've been offline for a while but since things have cooled off outside, I decided to pick back up. Not to mention we have some new tech with Bulldozer to try out.

    I picked up an FX-8120 and swapped out my 1090T today. Will have to trend it and see how my numbers change/improve. So far so good. It's not a mind blowing change in games (like the 2600K was) but it handles things fine. I'm tempted to try out the Windows 8 preview release on it and see the numbers.
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    SB-E is not for me either!

    Just did a quick calculation and looking at the reviews my guesstimate is that the six core cpu's will produce 1.5 times a 2600k plus maybe 10% at best on WCG (I'd like to be proven wrong)

    Here in UK the 6 core SB-E setup would cost around £800 for cpu mb and ram. vs around £420 for 4 core SB setup...So, about £840 for 8 cores (plus some tricked out psu leads)

    Power consumption is, from what I have seen, around 375watts for 6 cores vs what? 440watts for 8 cores? I suspect we could do better on this one

    Anyone thinking of getting one?


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    I'm waiting on the server side stuff to be released. We need a new server where I work and it would be nice to get a Dual LGA 2011 setup. Way overkill for what we need, but I don't plan on being able to do it again for another 7+ years. Plus I'll be sticking WCG on it for sure
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    trouble is... LGA 1567 is so damned expensive and, somehow, I'm not convinced that Intel will drop their xeon prices with the new socket


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldChap View Post
    SB-E is not for me either!

    Just did a quick calculation and looking at the reviews my guesstimate is that the six core cpu's will produce 1.5 times a 2600k plus maybe 10% at best on WCG (I'd like to be proven wrong)

    Here in UK the 6 core SB-E setup would cost around £800 for cpu mb and ram. vs around £420 for 4 core SB setup...So, about £840 for 8 cores (plus some tricked out psu leads)

    Power consumption is, from what I have seen, around 375watts for 6 cores vs what? 440watts for 8 cores? I suspect we could do better on this one
    Remember, these CPUs don't come with heatsinks! I'd imagine you'd need an H100 or the like for 24/7 crunching - so add another 110 USD to the entry price. I'd also venture a guess that OC'd 24/7 crunching is gonna need custom WC...

    Anyone thinking of getting one?
    I've been toying with the idea of putting my main system (i7 920) out to the garage for dedicated crunching & replacing it with something new. Was hoping to replace it with a Bulldozer system...but ah, no thanks. I'm gonna pass on SB-E as well. Too hot/expensive, and I'm not impressed with X79 chipset either. I might just drop $500 on a 970 and go back to waiting.

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    Is the 970 going to bring any real gains vs your 920?
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    Other than for crunching? No, not really! But 50% more cores & 20% higher clocks should give a nice point boost with only a little more power draw (or am I missing something?)

    Probably not the best way to spend $550, given that ~100 more buys a whole new 2600K cruncher. It's just that I've been chomping at the bit to buy a new SOMETHING, but BD/SB-E aren't compelling to me. At all. Gulftown's all that's left as an upgrade for my main system - except for a custom WC loop - and I'm not that brave yet.

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    Oh I thought the 970 was just a higher clocked part with the same number of cores as the 920
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    I'd like to try something new. But the power consumption numbers for SB-e don't look very promising. As bad as Bulldozer. In some cases worse. Plus the boards are expensive. Might be worth replacing my i7-930 cruncher which is a power hog. But I think I would opt for another 2600K.

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    Anyone tried using the BD with only the 4 true cores active?

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    Looking at Anandtech and Hardocp's result I presume that SNB-E uses somewhat more than 1.5x the power as a 2600K when both are overclocked to the same frequency. Now the question is whether SNB-E will also do 1.5x the WCG work compared to a 2600K at the same frequency. If it does, than costs for the components come into play and that is hard to figure out because you also have to factor in other things like HDD and PSU's. I think 2 2600K machines is the way to go, but we will have to wait for the WCG numbers to see if that is true.

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