AMD has decided to extend the life of AM3 + platform.

[halofanman]

AMD, FX next year 2012-Series "Komodo" has changed the platform roadmap ~ AMD AM3 + platform to continue

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If this article is correct, that means KOMODO (2nd gen bulldozer, or "BD-E") will be on AM3+ socket, While Trinity (the next gen APU) will be Socket FM2.

[bamtan2]

this is significant news because the rumor otherwise was that AM3+ and 990fx died pretty quickly in 2012 because the first bulldozer zambezi was also the last chip for it.

who wants to buy a new end-of-life 990fx and bulldozer when they could get an x79 sb-e at the start of its life? sounds like a smart move by amd to me. sounds like bulldozer has been so hugely delayed that they're changing their socket plans. makes sense.

[zanzabar]

this is significant news because the rumor otherwise was that AM3+ and 990fx died pretty quickly in 2012 because the first bulldozer zambezi was also the last chip for it.

who wants to buy a new end-of-life 990fx and bulldozer when they could get an x79 sb-e at the start of its life? sounds like a smart move by amd to me. sounds like bulldozer has been so hugely delayed that they're changing their socket plans. makes sense.

the SB-e will be dead soon as well, but amd is going to be in the price range of the IB and socket 1155 will be dead next year anyways so its not like u are going to futureproof. then its not like there would be a reason to update any of the products as they will not be replaced by better parts when u can OC, they just get stock clock upgrades and thats it until u get to the 2 year mark then u would need a new MB anyways (and its not like things will be cpu bound with the low clock speeds of stock chips and lack of parts with over 4 cores and even at 4 cores your not to far into the adoption trend for next year.)

[EniGmA1987]

I thought Zambezi was DDR-1866 speed memory? If thats true then when did Bulldozer get downgraded?


Also the copyright stuff at the bottom does not say it is from AMD

[zir_blazer]

I hear many people complaining about the supposed AM3+ platform life and I don't even consider something to worry about, Bulldozer isn't even yet on the market and people is just looking about what is beyond it. If you consider that AM3+ is a quite compatible extension of AM3 (At least, Bulldozer was supposed to work with current AM3, I don't know if this still holds valid), and that AM3 Processors fitted on AM2+ and even on some AM2 Motherboards, I think that AMD have hold quite a bit of degree of both backwards and forward compatibility to have anything to complain about them. Sooner or later that compatibility will be broken by a drastic design change. That actually, did happen on Llano with its featured that requiered a new Socket, like the integrated PCIe Controller.
Right now I would worry more about the fact that AMD segmented their value and enthusiast lines by a lot. New value and mainstream machines will sit on FM1, a platform that doesn't seems to have any future beyond Llano, and that you will not be able to upgrade tu Bulldozer, that maybe even current user of a AM3 Sempron could. That will hurt people the most in a month or two, as you will have to decide bewthem a non-upgradeable Llano and if you want more power you will have to throw in Motherboard and Processor, and at least a mainstream Video Card to cover up what Llano got. FM1 users have more to complain about sitting on a dead mainstream platform, AM3+ users at least could have the current high end Processor.

[Manicdan]

the only way i see this working is if komodo has ddr3/ddr4 support and they plan to make an AM4 platform that it will be compatible with.

[boxleitnerb]

No, Ivy Bridge runs on socket 1155 motherboards.

[Pantsu]

So no new chipset for another year? Wasn't 990FX basically just a 890FX with AM3+ socket?

[zanzabar]

So no new chipset for another year? Wasn't 990FX basically just a 890FX with AM3+ socket?

what do u want from a new chipset, the only upgrade could be pci-e3 but its a little early for that especially with a 32x pci-e chipset. with the bump in the stock NB and HTT clock it should make it alot better.

No, Ivy Bridge runs on socket 1155 motherboards.

it will out until winter 2012, so one year then its dead, its going to be near EOL when it comes out as a platform.

[Pantsu]

what do u want from a new chipset, the only upgrade could be pci-e3 but its a little early for that especially with a 32x pci-e chipset. with the bump in the stock NB and HTT clock it should make it alot better.

Native USB3.0, PCie 3.0, and better SATA6Gbps performance for starters.

[Chrono Detector]

I would rather if AMD moved to a new socket without using pins on their CPU's, because I find AMD CPU with pins very fragile and I've broken a couple already due to my carelessness.

[qcmadness]

what do u want from a new chipset, the only upgrade could be pci-e3 but its a little early for that especially with a 32x pci-e chipset. with the bump in the stock NB and HTT clock it should make it alot better.
it will out until winter 2012, so one year then its dead, its going to be near EOL when it comes out as a platform.

IVB will come in Q1/Q2 2012, depending on something special (in my opinion).

Native USB3.0, PCie 3.0, and better SATA6Gbps performance for starters.

SB950 comes without PCI-E 3.0 and no native USB 3.0 support.

I would rather if AMD moved to a new socket without using pins on their CPU's, because I find AMD CPU with pins very fragile and I've broken a couple already due to my carelessness.

This is how AMD supports forward / backward upgrading. An example is Socket AM2+ / AM3, and possibly AM3+.

[Brice MJ]

Something is messed up.
1. AMD never refered to modules as "cores".
2. All roadmaps except this one point out to a 10-core Komodo.
3. They say Komodo will reach 150W TDP in the article, while maintaining 8 cores.

[bamtan2]

Something is messed up.
1. AMD never refered to modules as "cores".
2. All roadmaps except this one point out to a 10-core Komodo.
3. They say Komodo will reach 150W TDP in the article, while maintaining 8 cores.

maybe the guy just made it up http://www.4gamer.net/games/135/G013...092/SS/002.jpg

[AbortRetryFail?]

Not really sure why folks are fawning over PCIe gen3. With 42 PCIe gen2 lanes off the 'NB' on the -FX motherboards bandwidth and speed are more than adequate. Gen3 is not a magic bullet - it's a solution in search of non-existent problems.

Same deal with integrating USB3 onto the SB. Not really any need to expend engineering capital with so many other demands at AMD -- especially when the current solution generally leads in performance.

[repman]

1. AMD never refered to modules as "cores".

AFAIK they do.

[Glow9]

Something is messed up.
1. AMD never refered to modules as "cores".

http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/proces.../fx-rules.aspx

AMD FX series eight-core processors. Approximate Retail Value: $300 USD each.

[Greg83]

with trinity getting socket fm2 still.
next round of slides.

[BrowncoatGR]

http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/proces.../fx-rules.aspx

AMD FX series eight-core processors. Approximate Retail Value: $300 USD each.

What's your point? AMD has always referred to the chips as (4 modules, 8 cores) and not (4 cores, 8 x86 cores)

[Origin_Unknown]

I would rather if AMD moved to a new socket without using pins on their CPU's, because I find AMD CPU with pins very fragile and I've broken a couple already due to my carelessness.

so not AMD's problem then

[Lanek]

I would rather if AMD moved to a new socket without using pins on their CPU's, because I find AMD CPU with pins very fragile and I've broken a couple already due to my carelessness.

remember when i had AMD Barton or A64 ... they have never broke, but it was needed sometimes to use a little needle for put back some on the right direction. With a bit of care this should not happend anyway


Note, i have see offtly the exact same thing, but with intel socket, this time on the motherboard socket comb ( when i go unbuild a pc for someone for upgrade component ) .. look like some like to put their finger where they should not, or press on it with a side of the cpu. And in this case.. you can have several problem then. they are even more fragile.

[Sparky]

I would rather if AMD moved to a new socket without using pins on their CPU's, because I find AMD CPU with pins very fragile and I've broken a couple already due to my carelessness.

I prefer CPU pins. Bend one by accident? Usually not too bad to straighten, and you're good to go. Bend a CPU socket pin? Good luck with that.

I've not had a problem bending either of them for a long time, it's called being careful But a few years ago I scored some really sweet deals on a couple s939 CPUs that had bent pins Of course, one I had to repair a broken pin, that wasn't easy...

[FlanK3r]

Think, its fake....BD 1600MHz, 4 cores...Piledriver only 4 cores? Whats about integrated PCIe and SB?

[Tao~]

Seems fake (aka fan-art) to me. The core-counts arent what they were in previous AMD roadmaps

And yeah, how come they replaced 'Modules' with 'Cores'. Its so confusing - AFAIK, AMD Modues != 2 x86 cores, its more like 2 Integer + 1 FPU

[Alex-Ro]

Fm1 only 1 year lifespan?...Damn that's pretty short...