Intel CPU Roadmap, pub. 7 Aug 2011 + i7-2800K rumoured

[BlindFreddie]

Motherboardnews.com published information obtained from donanimhaber.com that discusses Intel's upcoming lineup,
A roadmap diagram is included, which shows Ivy Bridge release date as March-April 2012.

MN also state:

Before we get to the flagship Sandy Bridge-E CPUs, it’s interesting to see that Intel is still working on a current-generation replacement for their existing consumer-focused flagship Sandy Bridge CPU – the Core i7-2600K. If the Q3 launch is correct, we should be seeing such a CPU, rumoured to be the Core i7-2800K, before the end of September (a nice welcome gift for AMD’s Bulldozer launch).

[Janus67]

Hexa-core SB chip? That would be awesome.

[bamtan2]

I don't see anything substantial there. The roadmap does not show a 2800K, so maybe they just made it up.

It is reasonable to expect though. It is AMD's move now. If BD comes out good, then rather than let AMD have leadership for 6 months, Intel is physically capable of countering that same month with a faster, renamed 2600k. Everyone knows sandy bridge is good enough to be sold faster if it suits Intel.

[stasio]

Hexa-core SB chip? That would be awesome.

Possible,
GB latest BIOS for P67/Z68 is already with 6 -cores.

[informal]

Where do you see 6C s1155 models on that roadmap? The only 6C planned by intel are big SB-E cores which go into s2011.

[AAbenson]

its about time Intel releases a 2700k/2800k so everyone and his dog will be able to reach 5.2ghz.
a new revision is needed...kindda like the E0 was for the 775 socket.
i wanna run my new 2700k at 5ghz with 1.35v 24/7

[Brice MJ]

Where do you see 6C s1155 models on that roadmap? The only 6C planned by intel are big SB-E cores which go into s2011.

why big? the 6C version is supposed to be 300-330mm².. (8C is 400mm², confirmed) so in your definition we should call zambezi (315mm²) big too?

[stasio]

Where do you see 6C s1155 models on that roadmap? The only 6C planned by intel are big SB-E cores which go into s2011.

Please read my post.
I talk about BIOS.

[Manicdan]

Please read my post.
I talk about BIOS.

i think he was talking more about the sources, the only detail is a rumor about a 2800k.
it would make sense for intel to have something to top off the 1155 socket, although i wonder if it will want to go with higher clocked quad or more cores, or will the 6c version have turbo higher than 2600k so its a win for gamers too.

[Olivon]

Possible,
GB latest BIOS for P67/Z68 is already with 6 -cores.

6 core on P67/768

SB got 2 extra hidden core on die

Honestly, I don't see the point stasio ...

[Mats]

This is both old and a repost + speculation? I've seen that map here before.

[stasio]

6 core on P67/768

SB got 2 extra hidden core on die

Honestly, I don't see the point stasio ...

As,said earlier GB incorporate 6-cores in new BIOS for P67/Z68 boards.
Probably they have reason for this:

[SubZero.it]

Possible,
GB latest BIOS for P67/Z68 is already with 6 -cores.

If support is there in the BIOS this should make everything almost sure....but that can also be Ivy

[Brice MJ]

If support is there in the BIOS this should make everything almost sure....but that can also be Ivy

Probably Ivy.
An hexa-core IB with IGP should be close to Core i5 2500/i7 2600 in die size (IB quads with IGP are around ~162mm²).

[informal]

why big? the 6C version is supposed to be 300-330mm².. (8C is 400mm², confirmed) so in your definition we should call zambezi (315mm²) big too?

Native 6C parts? There is no information that backs this up. The only thing we know for sure is that SB-E is a native 8C part. It is logical that intel will use 400mm^2 die and fuse off 2 cores.
Also note that for intel to have (all around) top performance 8C chip in desktop workloads,compared to 6C SB-E @ 3.3Ghz, they will need to match the 4C/6C clock in order to do this.The reason is the nature of desktop workloads- mostly serial and non-parallel(the ratio is roughly 70/30). 6C 3.3GHz SB-E is already at 130W ,8C @ 3+Ghz within 130W don't seem possible with current 32nm process from intel. And even at 3Ghz the 8C SB-E would be barely faster than 6C 3.3Ghz ,on average.

On the other hand ,22nm IB may bring 8C within 130W at 3.5+Ghz clocks.

6 core on P67/768

SB got 2 extra hidden core on die

Honestly, I don't see the point stasio ...

It could be that this is for future IB 6C models.I don't think we will see SB (standard/non SB-E) in 6C variant.

[undone]

If Ivy has six cores the SB-EP and X79 may have no reason of existing in market.

[Brice MJ]

Native 6C parts? There is no information that backs this up. The only thing we know for sure is that SB-E is a native 8C part. It is logical that intel will use 400mm^2 die and fuse off 2 cores.
Also note that for intel to have (all around) top performance 8C chip in desktop workloads,compared to 6C SB-E @ 3.3Ghz, they will need to match the 4C/6C clock in order to do this.The reason is the nature of desktop workloads- mostly serial and non-parallel(the ratio is roughly 70/30). 6C 3.3GHz SB-E is already at 130W ,8C @ 3+Ghz within 130W don't seem possible with current 32nm process from intel. And even at 3Ghz the 8C SB-E would be barely faster than 6C 3.3Ghz ,on average.

On the other hand ,22nm IB may bring 8C within 130W at 3.5+Ghz clocks.

It could be that this is for future IB 6C models.I don't think we will see SB (standard/non SB-E) in 6C variant.

There is also no information that says the opposite, so calling the 6C SB-E big is pure speculation from you... (unless you consider anything over 300mm² big)

SB is very modular, there are different dies for 2C/GT1, 2C/GT2 and 4C/GT2 models: http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pc.../437/481/5.jpg

There may be 3GHz+ 130W SB-E models with 8C, probably not this year though (thats why Core i7 3980X is scheduled to Q2/2011). Some not so recent ES are reaching over 3.1GHz (but with 150W TDP).

[saaya]

6cores on the mainstream platform... sounds like some people at intel want to hurt socket 2011 before it even comes out?

[Eldonko]

First Ive heard of a 2800k. Highly doubt this rumor is true, it doesnt make sense really.

[eXa]

2800K only need a max multi of 60 and it will sell like hotcakes :P

[zalbard]

It's nice to see that s2011 even fits under p1. Means it will be just as affordable as s1366 back then. Which is fantastic.

[AAbenson]

it all depends on how the new AMD cpus will perform when released...since they will be in the category of<=350$ they compete directly with 1155/SB ...hence if good then Intel will release a 2700k/2800k and/or a 6core SB/Ivy

[Janus67]

2800K only need a max multi of 60 and it will sell like hotcakes :P

So true. I would be the first to toss my 2600k for a chip that will do 6.0 under cold [effectively] guaranteed + any bclk if possible.

[Tenknics]

old news, old diagram..and pure speculation on the 2800k based on the >= signs next the 2600k.


Nothing to see here except for another B/C site trying to get attention.

[Lanek]

I don't see anything substantial there. The roadmap does not show a 2800K, so maybe they just made it up.

It is reasonable to expect though. It is AMD's move now. If BD comes out good, then rather than let AMD have leadership for 6 months, Intel is physically capable of countering that same month with a faster, renamed 2600k. Everyone knows sandy bridge is good enough to be sold faster if it suits Intel.

Exactly i don't even call 4ghz an overclock on the 2600K .. I mean you can leave auto and be stable at 4,5ghz .. Interessant article in Xbitlabs about efficiency of oc vs TDP with sandybridge, called something like " first time OC is efficient " .

anyway pure speculation surely.