ARM Motherboards for Windows 8

[alpha0ne]

^^ although there wont be much support from other software partners initially I firmly believe that Microsoft is realised that they need to join this trend transition. However I also believe that their licensing prices need to come down for the ARM platform, otherwise they will be at a disadvantage when dealing with competitors who give their OS for free or as part of the device (i.e. Android and IOS)

I just cant imagine MS every reducing their prices.............every $ counts

[zanzabar]

I just cant imagine MS every reducing their prices.............every $ counts

CE licensing is cheap, it is a less than $2 a device, most of the OS cost is from patent licensing as that brings the software cost to nearly $20 (something that non commercial use dose not have to deal with.)

MS also sells only a small few % of licenses to consumers but to be a consumer windows is $100-120 but for a large OEM like dell, acer, hp it's around $25-30 (or less) for windows 7

[kuroikenshi]

^^ Dbl post

[Mats]

This thread is a total fail.

- It's called Windows RT. Windows 8 is for x86 CPU's. "ARM Motherboards for Windows 8" is just wrong.

- What's the point in running Windows RT if you can't use Windows NT programs? None? Or you want Metro soo bad? You might as well use Linux (I'm not even a Linux fanboy).

- Have you seen the hardware requirements? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT.

- You can't buy RT.

Windows RT is the newest member of the Windows family – also known as Windows on ARM or WOA, as we’ve referred to it previously. This single edition will only be available pre-installed on PCs and tablets powered by ARM processors and will help enable new thin and lightweight form factors with impressive battery life.

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b...-editions.aspx

[Lanek]

Mat is right anyway ..


http://www.asiapads.com/product_info...oducts_id=2246

Do you know this little thing ? It is made for wire on the TV specially ... ARM 1.5ghz A8, GPU AMD Z430, working with Android 4.0 ICS, 512Mb of DDr3, 4go of internal memory, extendable with SD card, Wifi G (not n )... Its not what i will call a mini pc.... ( we are far of it )

[jogshy]

Nice one, Lanek!

I found another interesting ultra-low cost 49$ board:

WonderMedia WM8750 ARM11 800Mhz, DDR3 512MB Memory, 2GB NAND Flash, HDMI/VGA with OpenGL|ES 2.0/H264 hw video acceleration, USB 2.0, Ethernet 10/100, microSD card, Android 2.3, neo-ITX form factor.


More info at http://apc.io

[The Coolest]

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/v...d-pc-20120522/
It is ARM11 based.

[spicypixel]

None of these will ever run Win8 though

[Sparky]

They are great for primary computing as well. As things stand a dual core is more than enough for most uses. Take away gaming (which is going to die on the PC anyways), 3d animation and heavy video editing... things almost nobody does on their computer, and there is no need for the power we have now.

Smaller form factors, less power is the future. Power hungry large boxes can go the way of the typewriter.

Speak for yourself...

[DeathReborn]

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/v...d-pc-20120522/
It is ARM11 based.

When I first saw the headline I thought it would be Nano X2 1.2GHz+ based SoC & go the Intel route with x86 Android/Win8.

[alpha0ne]

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/v...d-pc-20120522/
It is ARM11 based.

Thanks for the linkage....................ordered

[kuroikenshi]

^^ I am waiting for boards to have some more grunt, then and only I will begin to purchase them for side projects such complete EV conversion of my JZA80 supra, (with the upcoming technology it would definitely compliment the vehicle's features with a full integrated low power system other than windows)

I was going to use windows and micro pc, but windows interface is poop for touch screens. and I aint holding my breath for windows RT.

[jogshy]

Kontron KTT30/mITX motherboard: ARM Cortex-A9 Quad Core 900MHz (1-7W), up to 2Gb of DDR3L, HDMI, mPCI express, SD/eMMC card, Ethernet 10/100/1000, USB2.0, RS232, Audio I/O, miniITX form factor.
http://emea.kontron.com/products/boa...ktt30mitx.html

[jogshy]

Another one, the ODROID-X:

Samsung Exynos4412 Cortex-A9 Quad Core 1.4Ghz with 1MB L2 cache, 1Gb of DDR2-800, Mali 400-MP GPU, HDMI, Audio I/O, USB 2.0, SD/mmc card, currently Android 4.0.4/Ubuntu 12.04, 129$$

http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_20...=G133999328931




I just hope to start seeing A15s with >2Gb DDR3 and USB3/SATA soon...

[jogshy]

Via VAB-800, 800MHz or 1GHz Freescale Cortex-A8 SoC, 4x USB2, Mini HDMI/VGA, 1Gb DDR3, 64Gb flash onboard, SATA, HD audio, Pico-ITX form factor


http://www.viaembedded.com/en/produc...1/VAB-800.html

[jogshy]

Another very good one, the Bounday Devices Nitrogen6X:

1Ghz quad core, 1Gb DDR3-1066, SATA, HDMI, dual SDHC card support, mini-PCI Express, GigaLAN, 3x USB, Android/Ubuntu.



199$, starts to sell on 11/1/2012.

http://boundarydevices.com/products/...cortex-a9-sbc/

[El Mano]

Thanks for keeping us updated Jogshy

[BrokenWall]

@Jogshy

First off I own a Raspberry Pi and I enjoy it, its my media device in the living room for streaming content, best part is that its plugged into the USB port on my LG TV and when you turn on the TV it powers up a slim version of the Debian Hard Floating Point build for Raspberry Pi and loads XBMC and streams media fine from the network with no problems. It's no desktop device and it was designed as an idea to get kids into programming as a cheap throw away purchase that's not to expensive. And its great for other countries around the world.

The Pandaboard and ODROID-X are development platforms designed for Android programmers and other DIYer to build linux/android based devices for fun or professional use. I have even see the ability to use these types of boards for building very nice Car-PCs that run Ubuntu/Android to provide an even more intense in dash head-unit, mixed with an AMP you have everything you need.

ARM is not a desktop platform and will never be a desktop platform. The reason Windows 8 RT is even around is because Microsoft knows that AMD/Intel have no shot in the near future of providing something that is as powerful yet as mobile as what ARM Provides for mobile use and battery life. The idea is Windows Phone 8 is out which runs on ARM, and you have Windows 8 on your PC, why not compete with the iPad and Android Tablets and give you a full Windows 8 environment for your Tablet as well. Windows 8 RT will not be purchasable by a consumer, just like you are unable to purchase Windows Phone 7/8 right now unless your OEM making a phone.

The Android PC by VIA for $49 was out to compete or give another option to the people who may be interested in the Rasberry Pi


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Most of the items posted in this thread are available for DIY, Geeking out, Development, and even embedded uses. I would love to buy a Pandaboard myself since you can run the ChromeOS and use it as an Android based HTPC with proper Netflix, Youtube, Amazon, Pandora, Android Games, etc. Some of the other options mentioned that have cases are developed as Thin Clients for enterprise environments, it runs a very slim version of Windows CE/Embedded or Linux and allows the use to use either VMWare VDI/Citrix/RDP to get to a session on a server for what they need. These are great for kiosk or what I enjoy them for is remote offices that are out of reach, they are simple to troubleshoot since everything is in a virtual environment in your server farm.

[kl0012]

The reason Windows 8 RT is even around is because Microsoft knows that AMD/Intel have no shot in the near future of providing something that is as powerful yet as mobile as what ARM Provides for mobile use and battery life.

Hmm... Did you see latest Anand's iphon5 review? It also has benchmarks of RAZR i (Medfield based). Check it out:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/t...ne-5-review/10

[jogshy]

ARM is not a desktop platform and will never be a desktop platform.

Currently, it's not, I agree with you ... but:
1. There are rumors that Apple is investigating to use ARM cpus for their Macs/laptops.
2. NVIDIA is developing Denver/Boulder. We might see a 100W APU soon !
3. Wait and see the new Cortex-A15 and Tegra 4 dev boards !

edit:
4. Today AMD anounced they're licensing ARM to make a server super-SoC. That's only the start ofc.
5. ARM just anounced Cortex A-50/55/57 ARMv8 64bits ...

[MavT]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/18/3...ook-249-monday

[Lanek]

If i was a little bit on the bad mood, i will say " ARM based Chromebook " .. Looking all software dont run natively on the OS, but are web based (even if they can be used offline a little bit ) . Chromebook are a bit in another category. But im clearly waiting to see what can bring this Equinox 5 for smartphone tablets.

[Clint]

Kontron KTT30/mITX motherboard: ARM Cortex-A9 Quad Core 900MHz (1-7W), up to 2Gb of DDR3L, HDMI, mPCI express, SD/eMMC card, Ethernet 10/100/1000 USB2.0, RS232, Audio I/O, miniITX form factor.
http://emea.kontron.com/products/boa...ktt30mitx.html

Fixed it!

[EniGmA1987]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/18/3...ook-249-monday

Too bad they dont have a 1080p resolution screen available, even if it costs a bit more. Using 1366x768 on anything higher than a 10" screen is too low res for modern times.

[jogshy]

First dev A15 board:

Cortex-A15 (Samsung Exynos 5) built in 32nm HKMG, 1.7 GHz dual core with SIMD NEON, Mali T-604 GPU with 1080p hw-accelerated VP8 Decoder/DX11/OpenCL 1.1/OpenGL|ES 1/2/3 , HDMI 1.4 stereoscopic, 2Gb of dual channel DDR3L-800, SATA III(6Gbps), USB 2/3, Ethernet 100Mbps(not 1Gbps ), eMMC/microSD card support, 24bits HD audio, WIFI and GPS/Diplay panel option, Android 4.1.1



249$ .

http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

But I want a 2Ghz quad core, 4Gb DDR3 RAM, SATA3/USB3, Ethernet 1Gbps, Mali T678/SGX6 sub 200$ board supporting Ubuntu 12.10 to be completely happy