ADATA: 8GB unbuffered DIMMs, get your 8GB unbuffered DIMMs, now at Newegg

[poke349]

If your buying this ram its for more than 16gb of ram (if not then just buy 4/6 4gb sticks), so 32 or 48gb ram...
Now my question: when do you "need"/want to use ECC? 32/48GB ram is starting to be quite an amount...

From what I've seen, memory reliability (per bit) goes up with the size. Such that the (per module) failure rate stays constant.
Obviously, the manufacturers can't make larger and larger ram modules while maintaining the same (per bit) failure rate, otherwise, the (per module) failure rate will just keep going up.

Say a few years from now, you can't sell a 128GB module with the same (per bit) failure rate as a 4GB module today - or they'll all be coming back to RMA.

[hyc]

32GB sounds about right for a video editing workstation. As soon as you need to mix more than a couple video tracks, that'll fill right up.

[Tenknics]

Yes finally! 8gb! this will be huge for sandy-e motherboards, considering most boards will only be 4 dimms (cept for a few high end $$ 8 dimm boads). 16gb on a high end machine is good but not great. I wanted a least 24, now I can get 32gb~


I mean, its silly how you can get 24 gigs on your average 6-dimm x58 board...but the platform replacing it, x79, only 4 dimms average...WEAK. This corrects the issue, hopefully prices will drop a lot by the time sandye launches

[IvanAndreevich]

Sold out

[XSAlliN]

8gb 1333 999 dimms... for gaming?
what games need 16-24gb of memory? 0_o

nice to see 8gb dimms, but weird they try to sell it as gaming stuff...

Guess you never played a game installed on a Ram Disk... If you think SSD are fast, you ain't seen nothing yet.

[bamtan2]

Deep breath:

The price for this kit is nuts. 2x8gb 1333 ECC kits can be had for $100 less than this kit.

Not unbuffered ECC...

I'm still using 3x2GB DIMMs, lol. And I don't see much need to upgrade...

8gb 1333 999 dimms... for gaming?
what games need 16-24gb of memory? 0_o

You might be on the wrong forum, dogs. This one is called xtreme systems. If all you want is 4GB dimms then buy up. They're as cheap as memory ever gets.

There is no reason for this ram to be more expensive than 8gb reg ecc

Except there is nothing else like it. Supply and demand, you know? And look at the voltage. These are new chips.

From what I've seen, memory reliability (per bit) goes up with the size.

Memory reliability has roughly gone up over time, but not because of the chips have more capacity... all else being equal, more memory means more errors, full stop...

I would rather everyone use unbuffered ECC, but that is not the news story. Maybe next month.

[Stewie007]

No need for rebuttals. Why does it seem that people who just voiced their opinions are not welcome unless they say "Its great, any price, I am on board."

We don't need to argue just because other people entered the discussion.

I think its great, I just will wait until the price falls. Others feel that its excessive memory that isn't really necessary. What's wrong with that?

Edit: That said, A-Data didn't price it there because of people like me. They knew that Demand would be there given the limited supply. Once competition arrives with the same thing we'll see prices fall.

[chinaguy]

Well just looking down the line till 2013 and the average PC will have 6-8CPUs, 256GB SSD, 24-32GB RAM,8TB HDs, 4GB GPUs and it still wont score 7.9 on Windows Experience Index!

[Stewie007]

Windows Experience Index............ eheheheheee....

[Mungri]

Yes finally! 8gb! this will be huge for sandy-e motherboards, considering most boards will only be 4 dimms (cept for a few high end $$ 8 dimm boads). 16gb on a high end machine is good but not great. I wanted a least 24, now I can get 32gb~


I mean, its silly how you can get 24 gigs on your average 6-dimm x58 board...but the platform replacing it, x79, only 4 dimms average...WEAK. This corrects the issue, hopefully prices will drop a lot by the time sandye launches

I'm quite sure that higher end X79 boards will have 8 dimm slots.

I thought I was crazy buying two lots of 12 Gb ram, if I had waited until now I could have saved £50 too.

Everything became noticeably quicker with the 4 Gb dimms, but one kit really would have sufficed. I just like to fill all my slots for no reason

Well just looking down the line till 2013 and the average PC will have 6-8CPUs, 256GB SSD, 24-32GB RAM,8TB HDs, 4GB GPUs and it still wont score 7.9 on Windows Experience Index!

Lol, I only have 7.5

[chinaguy]

I wounder how much RAM there was in the United States of America in 1966, did that add up to 8GB!

Thats just to put things into prospective for anybody born after 1985. I can now fit under my desk more CPU processing power, more Hard Disk Storage and RAM then exsisted in the entire United States of America in 1966!!!

[N19h7m4r3]

Lol, I only have 7.5

I'm on 5.9 thanks to not having an SSD yet.

Everytime I go to buy one I change my mind.

Also I'd love these 8GB dimms. Hmm...two of them in my next m-ITX system.

Should stop me from having to worry about ram for a while then haha.

[Stewie007]

Mine is stuck at 5.9 too..... My wife's is at 4.3 thanks to her laptop graphics hehehehe.....However by the time I have the $$$ and time to finish my chiller and get the new computer Bulldozer will probably be on its second generation and this stuff will be cheaper..... and faster. ^_^

[saaya]

Read this:
http://developer.amd.com/documentati...ure_Topics.pdf

Gives you a idea why more memory is better.

why i thought less memory was better! :o
OMG! *runs to bank and withdraws savings and rushes to computer market*
pls...

of course more memory is better, i just dont think its needed for games...

[El Mano]

Why the "gaming" label?

[bamtan2]

Why the "gaming" label?

You should probably pose that question to ADATA.

[Stewie007]

Why the "gaming" label?

Who markets desktop memory like this toward anyone else? Its pretty obvious why they are marketing it toward gamers.

[El Mano]

Who markets desktop memory like this toward anyone else? Its pretty obvious why they are marketing it toward gamers.

I don't get it. There are only a very few games that have 64bit executable.
If you want to use dual channel you need to buy 16GB.

Unless you plan on playing a dozen games at the same time I can't see why a gamer would need more than 6GB.

[Stewie007]

I don't get it. There are only a very few games that have 64bit executable.
If you want to use dual channel you need to buy 16GB.

Unless you plan on playing a dozen games at the same time I can't see why a gamer would need more than 6GB.

I agree. However, it has already been established that the folks who have bought this aren't interested in need. It is about having it because it is there.

Did I need a 361HP car? Will it NEED to have 450+ after I modify the engine? No. Of course, I can't do any of this unless I have the financing to support it.

RAM is obviously a lot cheaper, but the point is your or I aren't willing to spend $330 just to have something. Others are willing.

[Mungri]

Mine is stuck at 5.9 too..... My wife's is at 4.3 thanks to her laptop graphics hehehehe.....However by the time I have the $$$ and time to finish my chiller and get the new computer Bulldozer will probably be on its second generation and this stuff will be cheaper..... and faster. ^_^

I got 7.7 on CPU and Ram (My cas 6 2 Gb sticks used to be 7.9 ), 7.9 on graphics, 7.5 on the SSD.

Triple channel Cas 9 1600 Mhz is all you need on X58, there are no gains at all from having faster stuff. On SB you want at least 1866 Mhz. These 8 Gb sticks are most definitely not performance / gaming ram.

I could actually get my 2 Gb sticks replaced on warranty too, they are Geil 2133 Mhz ones that arent even stable at 1900 Mhz, but I kept them for their Cas 6 clocks of up to 1700 Mhz. I'll have to test each pair individually though and I cant be bothered to do that. Plus I'd have to post them to Taiwan and I dont think Geil have anything thats better than Cas 6 1700 Mhz dimms.

Unless you plan on playing a dozen games at the same time I can't see why a gamer would need more than 6GB.

For greed, I have an obsession with wanting to fill all my slots with decent stuff, and that is currently done. Somehow I have to force myself to keep it all for a few more years, I'm already twitching to buy the 4 Gb cas 7 1600 Mhz G.Skill modules and selling my Corsairs, but it would make no difference on X58, and there will be far better ram released next year for Ivy Bridge.

[Stewie007]

I got 7.7 on CPU and Ram (My cas 6 2 Gb sticks used to be 7.9 ), 7.9 on graphics, 7.5 on the SSD.

My stuff is quite old..... well, in tech terms its old. Phenom 9850, Radeon 3870 X2..... Its not going to be updated at all.... I'm saving that $$$ for the chilled rig..

[Particle]

Unless you plan on playing a dozen games at the same time I can't see why a gamer would need more than 6GB.

Although a gamer, I do sometimes do things other than games. It was pretty cramped back when I was on 8 GB when I'd do some development work. I had to upgrade to 12.

[Hell Hound]

Same one's that use to say quad core will never be needed.
I would like the kit to be 1866 cs 6,but that won't be till gen3 bd @ least.

[xVeinx]

Gaming may not require much memory, but de novo sequence assembly of the human genome requires machines with 512 Gb and beyond . There will always be ways to use up more memory, more processors, or more storage space. It may take a little bit for consumer software to catch up to the progress, but there is plenty of academic and industrial research going on that can put it to use. Give it time, and you'll find that you don't have enough space on your boot drive as windows has taken up the first terabyte from the install , or need more than 64 Gb of memory. Sometimes the hardware becomes less an immediate necessity and more an opportunity to do things previously impossible on a traditional computer.

[Serra]

There is not the slightest chance I would ever buy this product - that price is completely unreasonable. For the cost difference vs. ECC memory alone you could actually probably just move to a dual-socket (server-grade) system in the first place and enjoy the same amount of memory, but with better performance* and better overall stability (due to use of ECC and server-grade parts).

*Statement assumes that to bother to spend that much on RAM you're using a high-end consumer CPU, which you could then replace with two mid-end server-grade CPU's instead to still total more horsepower.

Deep breath:
<quote pointing out that 2x8GB ECC kits are at least $100 cheaper>
Not unbuffered ECC...

That's exactly why this kit is ridiculous. ECC kits require additional logic and memory components, and are typically built to a higher standard - they are notably cheaper to build. Hence it's bananas that anyone would pay this much for a cheaper product.