What's the current Llano APU vantage wr?

[chew*]

I dunno, I always thought you thought of them as a high score instead of WR :p

Why not show us some more chewonthis* magic before you leave?

High score when it's AMD specific, Record when it's global.

[The Stilt]

Tried to turn off cores 1-3 by a .... function.
The CmpCap (number of cores available) seems to be locked / fused on Llano (sticky).
I can turn off the cores I want, but the system won´t post after saving the new settings.

Maybe the X2 & X3 chops are different stepping, with physically three cores?

[chew*]

Tried to turn off cores 1-3 by a .... function.
The CmpCap (number of cores available) seems to be locked / fused on Llano (sticky).
I can turn off the cores I want, but the system won´t post after saving the new settings.

Maybe the X2 & X3 chops are different stepping, with physically three cores?

No they are most likely core disabled ( bad cores ).

I'll see if I can grab one next week or so.

Model is A6 3500 I think.

[G.Foyle]

I hear there's gonna be two dies for Llano: one is 4C/400SP and the other is 2C/320 SP. A6-3500 would be a 4C die with one core fused off.

[Lightman]

I hear there's gonna be two dies for Llano: one is 4C/400SP and the other is 2C/320 SP. A6-3500 would be a 4C die with one core fused off.

I read somewhere that initial A4 Llanos are fused off 4C cores but as you said AMD will make a separate mask for 2C version down the road.

[itsmydamnation]

I read somewhere that initial A4 Llanos are fused off 4C cores but as you said AMD will make a separate mask for 2C version down the road.

are you sure?

everyones fav partially accurate "reporter" (Charlie) is quite confident that trinity will be released CES time frame. given that Llano was 6 months+ late it does make some sense.

[Lightman]

are you sure?

everyones fav partially accurate "reporter" (Charlie) is quite confident that trinity will be released CES time frame. given that Llano was 6 months+ late it does make some sense.

No, not sure, but that's what AMD was telling press at Llanos launch.

[PaganII]

Why is Newegg advertising the A-3850 as Unlocked???

On the right side of page
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

Edit: Never mind , just realized it was customer comment...

[chew*]

Why is Newegg advertising the A-3850 as Unlocked???

On the right side of page
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

They aren't. someone wrote a review and thinks he has unlocked multi.

[PaganII]

Thanks Chew
My adblocking, color changing, script blocking stuff changes the web pages and all I saw was the big letters, ha ha. There is an unlocked version coming though, right?

[The Stilt]

Asus released some new bioses for F1A75 -series boards yesterday.

Generic changelog:

AGESA code updated from V1.1.0.2 to V1.1.0.3.
Hudson CIM code updated from V1.0.0.1 to V1.0.0.3.
Sumo VBIOS updated from version 012.043.009.000.000000 to 012.043.000.014.000000
ST/FD/DS configuration changed while in auto mode (enhanced stability / overclocking).
Fixed GPU Boost / OC function*
Added option to disable C-State Pmin feature

* GPU Boost / OC function is working with unlocked APUs only.
On locked APUs the maximum overclock is always: Default SCLK PState Div - 0.25.
On A6-3650 this means 457MHz and on A8-3850 626MHz.
Higher options are available, but they do not have any effect.

Asus F1A75 0702 (08/11/2011)

Asus F1A75-V EVO 0902 (08/11/2011)

Asus F1A75-V PRO 1102 (08/11/2011)

Asus F1A75-M 1001 (08/11/2011)

Asus F1A75-M LE 0702 (08/11/2011)

Asus F1A75-M PRO CSM 0403 (08/18/2011)

NOTE: The F1A75-M PRO CSM is bios intended to be used on CSM ("Corporate Stable Model") variant of F1A75-M PRO motherboard.
The motherboard is physically identical with the normal variant and the bioses are fully interchangeable, however the CSM bios is significantly slower.
CSM bios underclocks the APU northbridge for enhanced stability (on 1866MHz MEMCLK ratio NCLK is 666MHz instead of 900MHz).

Also NONE of the bioses above have either "Bank Interleave" or "GPU Boost" function enabled.
I will post the modified versions tomorrow.

[chew*]

I've got the V pro to work with now stilt but will be indisposed for about a week before i can get to it.

[The Stilt]

Will be nice to see what can you come up with it

The modified bioses as promised:

F1A75-0702TS

F1A75-M-1001TS

F1A75-M-LE-0702TS

F1A75-M-PRO-CSM-0403TS

F1A75-V-EVO-0902TS

F1A75-V-PRO-1102TS

F1A75 & F1A75-M LE boards don´t support "GPU Boost" feature so it will not be available on them.
Users with retail (locked) APUs, just set the GPU Boost option to "Turbo" to max out the GPU.
Higher settings will not have any effect on locked APUs.

In case someone wants to use F1A75-M PRO CSM bios on their normal F1A75-M PRO board, use Afuwin / Afudos with additional /x switch to skip the rom ID check (which will otherwise prevent flashing).

[mattkosem]

No love for the F1A75-M Pro (non-CSM)? I don't want to flash a slower bios, but those new features sound nice.

--Matt

[Alex-Ro]

yea,damn they hate this model so much

[PaganII]

Ordered the A8-3850/F1A75-M-Pro and a 2U case for a new HTPC last week. Had 4Gb of some old ddr3 2000 cas8 that was growing mold on it so should make a good combo. Will have to see what it can do before putting it in the rack.

[The Stilt]

Some recent findings regarding Llano:

Unlocking disabled cores on K12h (E2, A4, A6, Athlon, Sempron), what chew* was talking about.

Asus designed these boards to have the unlocking feature but did not implement it in the final product.
Even with the switch to unlock the cores is physically missing, the unlock is done via software anyway (if it is even possible on K12h in the first place). However none of the current A55/A75 boards include anything related to this in the bios code.

High DRAM VDD seem to degrade the APU quite quickly.
I have been testing some older high voltage DRAM (Micron D-die, Samsung) on this expendable A6-3650...
Before I started the Samsung sticks could do 1150MHz 10-12-11 (yeah...) with 1.95V fully 3D & Memtest stable.
I even tried those Micron D-die sticks with ~2.05V for couple hours or so.
Now the APU cannot handle 2x2GB (DR) sticks at 933MHz in exactly the same conditions as before.
Only 2x1GB (SR) configuration is still working at 933MHz.

No wonder since the DRAM VDD is fed directly to the CPU and the "receivers" are designed for 1.35V - 1.50V ±5%

[PaganII]

Well that's interesting. The Patriot ram I planned to use is 1.65v - PVV34G2000LLKB. Have 4G of G. Skill 1600 cas8 for HTPC duty. All leftovers from XP gamer rig.

Edit: Here is old review of the patriot ram on X6 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mem...x6-memory.html
They worked fine for me @ 1600-6.6.6. 1T and 1333 5.5.5. 1T

[Alex-Ro]

Just flashed 0403 CSM TS bios on my M-PRO,works pretty good,too bad it''s little slower,something like 500 mb/s read in AIDA,1000 points in 3dm2003.Still you have to admire these idiots at ASUS,they made new release for all models except the M-PRO,instead they release a CSM model,who needs this anyway.They really must hate this model,only they know why....

Also,the AHCI problem is something to be fixed in newer releases or it's the storage controller to be blamed and it can't be fixed?

[The Stilt]

Also,the AHCI problem is something to be fixed in newer releases or it's the storage controller to be blamed and it can't be fixed?

Whats the ACHI problem?

[Alex-Ro]

Well,after passing 105 Bclk AHCI won't work,it will simply get you a nice BSOD.Only IDE mode is a go.Which kinda sucks for SSD.

[|ron]

Same for the Giga UD4H with the raid controller... 105mhz fsb ok, 106 no HD detected
Didn't try on the a75-m pro.

[The Stilt]

Well,after passing 105 Bclk AHCI won't work,it will simply get you a nice BSOD.Only IDE mode is a go.Which kinda sucks for SSD.

Oh well...
This happens on all A75 boards I´ve heard.

The hardware is designed for 100MHz BCLK, nothing under or above it

But I´ll send you something to try, soon.

[Alex-Ro]

Hehe,looking forward

[PaganII]

Well my Patriots (2000C8/1.65v) wouldn't even do 1866 without color corruption and random reboots but I dropped to 1600C8 and then lowered the voltage to 1.5v. Will be OK for the HTPC but will have to get other ram for OC. Can't get much info from GPUZ. Can't believe how warm that thing runs at stock with an AVC heatpipe cooler on it.