GTX 480 or gtx 570

[TJ TRICHEESE]

Ok they're both about the same performance and can both clock to the similar speeds while being sure that neither will blow up and the 480 has moar bandwidth, moar mem and costs £50 less

480 - Win

[pythonse]

good assessment cheese

[STEvil]

blame the hwbot search? lmfao...blame anyone but urself correct? i would hate to work with you or even be around you...i have no respect for people who do not have any accountability. as far as the rest of ur post...its all bs. you actually proved urself wrong by posting what you "researched" then u blame hwbot for ur inacurate statements? 4X SLI COMPARED TO 3X SLI AND ONLY 200 POINTS SEPERATED THE 2.....YOU USED THAT AS A REFERENCE! YOU SAID AND I QUOTE "THIS SHOULD UNQUESTIONABLY PUT THE DEBATE TO REST" now u find out the absolute truth and you still think you are right?! then u start attacking me saying i am only defending the 570? im stating the facts and not only did i prove you wrong but u also shot urself in the foot...time for u to bow out of this one

I suggest you come up with some kind of better reply than just poking at his statement about how the hwbot search was incorrect.

[pythonse]

better reply? what do u want me to do? everything is spelled out..i have done everything to envoke the truth,he posts bogus info and blames the search engine at hwbot and now ur telling me i need a better reply? wow...hows this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OqGsCw1poM
compare any 480 card to that one...if u or anyone else tells me the 480 is better than this card then ur nothing but a fanboy..btw go ASUS!

[pythonse]

you know..believe whatever u want to believe, im sorry if anyone got their feelings hurt or i offended anyone...this isnt worth me getting banned from this forum muchless the time ive wasted

[OC Nub]

People take hardware serious . All that matters is that people are happy with what they pay for.
Everyone will have an opinion on whats best.

caughgtxcaugh480caughwinscaugh.

[Donster]

I recently upgraded to a Gigabyte GTX 480 Super OC ... what a wicked card for the money, at the time I paid just £219 from OCUK, the same card is now £380 lol ... so far im very impressed .. idle temp of 45C and 79 under load

[Ket]

caughgtxcaugh480caughwinscaugh.

lol

[pythonse]

sorry oc nub but ket proved u wrong

[solofly]

Everyone will have an opinion on whats best.

You got that right, opinions are like A_holes... cause everyone has one... hehe Get it?!

[pythonse]

huge difference between opinions and facts

[Ket]

Heres another fact then: GTX480 faster than GTX570 in Crysis2 with all the eye candy and DX11 goodness. No arguing with Guru3D - they even have 3D in their name

[pythonse]

geez...u already proved urself wrong,let it go

[Ket]

Dunno who you are talking to, but I said way back put a GTX480 on a level playing field with a GTX570 (read: same clocks) and the GTX480 will be faster. All the HWbot screens show is a quite noticably slower clocked GTX480 scoring the same as a noticably higher clocked GTX570. My last post with the link to Guru3D shows the GTX480 consistently faster than the GTX570 across all resolutions.

I can't think of a better scenario than that Guru3D link. Both the GTX480 and GTX570 were tested in exactly the same system, under exactly the same conditions, in exactly the same game, and neither card was even clocked equally but there it is in print - the GTX480 is faster.

Are you going to try and start arguing with Hilbert now saying hes biased or something?

[pythonse]

i have already proved u wrong..u proved urself wrong and now u r continueing this? scroll up and tell me any 480 is faster than that 570 classified..u cant,because there isnt a 480 out there to match it...its that simple,480's are old technology,outdated and discontinued..you post "this should put the debate to rest" and then posted something that only proved me to be correct..u showed 2 benchmarks one being 4x and the other being 3 x and the 4x sli only won by 200 points! now u say that because the 480 scores higher in crysis 2 that proves ur right?
once again read this post
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/introducing-gtx-570/28
at the bottom it reads this
It is pretty clear from our 24 games and two synthetic tests that the GTX 570 is a potent GPU to put against AMD’s upcoming Cayman video cards – the HD 6950 and HD 6970 which are the forthcoming replacements and upgrade over the current HD 5850 and HD 5870 video cards. The new GTX 570 – at this snapshot in time – has the clear distinction of being the fastest video card in its class – the fastest single DX11 GPU video card in its unique class; and at a suggested retail price of $349, sets it just above the average price of the GTX 480s which are likely to drop further.

do u think that all of a sudden the 480 got faster? or they put out another card? nope,they didnt.
here is another link to the newest 570..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OqGsCw1poM
oh btw a new 570 just hit with 2.5 gbs of ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130687
i could go on and on and on and on
any other questions? no?...good

[pythonse]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Admit-You-...ong!&id=859066

[Ket]

AGAIN I'm going to point out I and numerous others were saying clock for clock the GTX480 is faster. For god sake, learn to read a post properly you'll save yourself a lot of embarressment.

[pythonse]

now ur picking and choosing which 570 to compare to? LMFAO...please refer to post #91

[TJ TRICHEESE]

I thought we were talking about the standard versions 480's and 570's cards.

480's and 570's weren't binned (as far as im aware) so whether its an overclocked one or not is irrelevant, its just luck whether you get a good clocker or not.

But if your talking about the 2.5gb evga 570 its even more FAIL than a normal one as:

A) It has the same memory bus so its just as slow as a normal one with the same clocks for most users.

B) £££

[OC Nub]

Looking through your link again, the tests are all pretty close, some with the 570 winning, and some with the 480 winning.

Given the fact that the clocks on the 570 are 732/1900 vs the 480 at 700/1401, I dont see how you still say the 570 is faster clock for clock. 32mhz faster stock core clock and a much higher shader clock, and the results are still extremely even shows otherwise.

You say fanboism to others, but honestly who is the real fanboy here? The facts have been posted here, even some by you that show a very even match when the 570 has a slight advantage by way of core and shader clocks, but also a slight disadvantage having a little less memory, but now you throw in a card with an extra 1gb or so of memory to add to it , which gives it an advantage straight across the board. Whats next, a 570 with built in ss phase change cooling against a stock 480 with fan set to auto?

If you take all this into account, plus the huge price drop on the 480 making it quite a bit cheaper, its hard to say the 570 is the better value, or the better choice. And nothing here has proved it to be all around faster than the older 480, escpecially at benching, which is one of the reasons the OP wanted the card in the first place. If he had posted "I am looking for a benching card with lower power consumption, that doesnt run very warm on stock cooling yet gives me respectable scores, and I dont mind paying more $ for it" then I think the opinions on the better card for him would be different

[M31]

Hmmm ... bit concerned here about a couple of comments earlier in the thread about GTX570's having a tendency to blow up or needing replacing under warranty? They only came out what 7 months ago?

What is the source for this? reason I'm asking is I bought an EVGA GTX570 SC 1280mb back in January not long after they were released and liking it very much bought another identical card a couple of months ago for SLI ... they have performed faultlessly my only regret is not holding out for the newer versions with double the vram per card that will come in handy when I get my 2 extra 28" LCD's for surround vision and crazy resolution.

Why would the 570's have a tendency to fail? surely the architecture and GPU die size is similar with the slightly faster 580's, are they liable to die early soon too? For sure my cards run pretty cool and this is one of the main reasons I chose them over a 480.

Is it just down to enthusiasts enthusiasm in supporting their own card? I notice the two guys who mention this are GTX480 owners No worries if this is the case, just forum banter as far as I'm concerned, but if there is any SOLID trend in what they say I'd like to know about it, otherwise I'm covered with the crazy long warranty EVGA provide me that will far outlive my ownership of my cards before I upgrade again in a GPU generation or two in a year or two.

Performance wise I've no complaints in practical use, Crysis being the most demanding on a GPU here and high res I reckon? I don't upgrade for benchmarking and high scores but don't condemn those that do either

Cheers.

[pythonse]

i belong to the evga forums..there isnt any threads that state the 570's "blow up"..there have been failures on the reference cards when heavily overclocked.

[M31]

i belong to the evga forums..there isnt any threads that state the 570's "blow up"..there have been failures on the reference cards when heavily overclocked.

Thanks for that ... I guess unnecessary scaremongering in the earlier part of the thread then? any card is more liable to fail when heavily overclocked.

For my part I don't overclock GPU's just CPU's as flight sim is the main part of why I build performance PC's, current ones tend to be more CPU intensive.

Cheers.

[pythonse]

are u a gamer? what do u use ur pc for?

[M31]

are u a gamer? what do u use ur pc for?

You could say I'm a gamer My primary use for a performance PC is modern Flight Sim though and I splashed a bit to build a new Sandy Bridge 2600K, GB Z68 UD7 B3, 8GB, SSD's ETC just for this ... keeping my once main rig of an I7 920 @ 4GHz, GB UD5 X58, 6GB, SSD ETC for more general gaming and surfing use ... when I built the new SB rig I used the two 570's for it so had to source a GPU for the I7 920 ... I'd not tried an AMD card for a while so bought a new 2GB HD6970 ... to be honest I'm not to impressed with it ... mainly because I'm more used to tweaking Nvidia cards IQ with Nhancer and now Nvidea Inspector ... to be honest in hind sight I should have went for another GTX 570 or even if I'd waited one more week I'd have known about the GTX570's with double the vram ... heck even a GTX 480 too? I swear to myself I'll never be a fanbouy over a PCB and transistors and silicone chips, there will always be something better.

Cheers.