New site is harder to read/less clear and the contrast hurts my eyes...

[smpsys]

please keep in mind that we just finished the update of vB. so any possible skin updates will take a little time. by my understanding Fugger is looking at having the skin altered. i can't say for sure, but i believe there will be at least 1 or 2 skin choices.
just ask to give him a bit of time to get it worked out and any new bugs that staff has to get accustomed to.

Please bring the old skin back! I have a hard time being on the forum for more then 2 minutes because of this change. I understand the you updating and and everyone does too. Having an option (a button on the top) to switch back to the classic mode would be my dream.

I love this forum a lot and visit it at least two times a day. I don't understand why the new look is necessary. We are reading a text hear and not paying Crysis! lol

[Gamekiller]

I've taken to only reading the archive view as my eyes start to ache quite quickly with the high contrasts

Yeah, that's understandable. Personally, I'm not having this issue myself. I guess the difference between everyone's monitor and settings can have dramatic effects on what were see (along with personal preferences).

Also, I can see the names just fine. Not to insult anyone but curiously have you all tried to calibrate your monitor?

Please bring the old skin back! I have a hard time being on the forum for more then 2 minutes because of this change. I understand the you updating and and everyone does too. Having an option (a button on the top) to switch back to the classic mode would be my dream.

I love this forum a lot and visit it at least two times a day. I don't understand why the new look is necessary. We are reading a text hear and not paying Crysis! lol

I have a feeling that it isn't nearly that easy to do as you request.

[Sparky]

I find some of the colors hard to see and read.

Gomeler's post, i cant even read his name.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4881697

I can read it fine - stop using a crappy TN monitor that can't display colors right.
JK His name isn't the easiest thing to read, but it isn't terrible either on my MVA/PVA panel (I forget which it is, Viewsonic VX2025wm).

Please bring the old skin back! I have a hard time being on the forum for more then 2 minutes because of this change. I understand the you updating and and everyone does too. Having an option (a button on the top) to switch back to the classic mode would be my dream.

I love this forum a lot and visit it at least two times a day. I don't understand why the new look is necessary. We are reading a text hear and not paying Crysis! lol

The newest version of vBulletin does not support the same skin format as the old version did. It is like how you can't put the XP luna skin on Windows 7, it just doesn't work

[mdzcpa]

The New Posts screen makes my eyes bleed

Indeed! The thread titles need to be larger and the thread starter details smaller. The New Posts screen is pretty rough.


Edit:
Scratch that...the font size is wonky on all pages. Why the thread details are in a larger font than the title is hard to get used to.
Other than that I like the new functionality.

[Serpentarius]

17" office pc. I agree. It hurts the eyes.

Is it possible to have skin themes?

[Waterlogged]

Guys, please give FUGGER a chance to finish tweaking this one. There's a lot of crap he has to poke through in the background (in his spare time) to sort things out and this update is only about a week old. It will eventually start to feel like home again but, there's a lot of construction that needs to take place before that happens.

[M.Beier]

Guys, please give FUGGER a chance to finish tweaking this one. There's a lot of crap he has to poke through in the background (in his spare time) to sort things out and this update is only about a week old. It will eventually start to feel like home again but, there's a lot of construction that needs to take place before that happens.

Thank you for the very giving words, would you mind giving a speach about the children in Africa while you are at it?
I think the use in this thread will be about equal.

[mdzcpa]

We all know Charles is doing his best to tweak the site. And we all know it does take time. This thread is a good place for folks to voice their concerns so he can see what the members would like to see worked into the final product. No one here is being disrespectful that I can see. There's no reason to come onto the thread and squash people voicing their opinions. It's healthy and needed. Not all concerns will be addressed, or can be, but it's a source of feedback....as long as no one gets rude.

[[XC] Oj101]

Not to insult anyone but curiously have you all tried to calibrate your monitor?

Most of my browsing is done from work, my monitor is branded CMW. Have you even heard of them? Don't expect miracles from it, the only adjustments are contrast and brightness - NOTHING else. It doesn't even have an auto setting

[Erklat]

I see we will need this very soon on this forum



Threads are ok and don't need tweaking, but root could use some darkening.

[M.Beier]

We all know Charles is doing his best to tweak the site. And we all know it does take time. This thread is a good place for folks to voice their concerns so he can see what the members would like to see worked into the final product. No one here is being disrespectful that I can see. There's no reason to come onto the thread and squash people voicing their opinions. It's healthy and needed. Not all concerns will be addressed, or can be, but it's a source of feedback....as long as no one gets rude.

Well said

[Lestat]

throw my name into the hat for those that HATE the new design and LOVED the old one.
the new design is hard to read, feels like it is just a mess even though it is organized properly. when you see it it just optically feels messy.

load up a few skins,,, they are just skins, let us use what we want.

im still coming here but i feel like my eyes are being raped

[Waterlogged]

We all know Charles is doing his best to tweak the site. And we all know it does take time. This thread is a good place for folks to voice their concerns so he can see what the members would like to see worked into the final product. No one here is being disrespectful that I can see. There's no reason to come onto the thread and squash people voicing their opinions. It's healthy and needed. Not all concerns will be addressed, or can be, but it's a source of feedback....as long as no one gets rude.

Well, I was aiming my comments at the 6 or so (now 7 in just this topic alone) ppl that are crying for new skins. We also have the original topic made by FUGGER in which, IIRC, even more ppl ask for skins and have stated things that need to be tweaked (myself included). I just think FUGGER should worry about getting the base set up right first, before adding junk that may not be needed after all the fine tuning is done.

...and for those of you asking for new skins, the colors really aren't that far off from where they were, there just happens to be a lot of white that hasn't disappeared yet that is making it so bright looking...and yes, it hurts my eyes too

[STaRGaZeR]

Look, this is what a white mess looks like. GIVE ME MY EYES BACK!!!11!one

Now seriously, the removal of white everywhere should be the number 1 thing to do to fix the mess. Also, is this the same grey/blue we had before the update? Doesn't feel like it.

[Particle]

The thread layout isn't problematic, but the thread listings are. They're very cluttered, making it hard to pick out new rows. Simply making the second line smaller would solve this. As it stands now, the "Started by <username>‎, <timestamp>" line is actually LARGER than the thread titles which is a bit absurd.

[shoota]

The thread layout isn't problematic, but the thread listings are. They're very cluttered, making it hard to pick out new rows. Simply making the second line smaller would solve this. As it stands now, the "Started by <username>‎, <timestamp>" line is actually LARGER than the thread titles which is a bit absurd.

Yeah this has been mentioned several times. I have a hard time glancing through the thread listings and deciphering what is what.

[Waterlogged]

Now seriously, the removal of white everywhere should be the number 1 thing to do to fix the mess. Also, is this the same grey/blue we had before the update? Doesn't feel like it.

Agreed.

The gray part the posts are in is not quite the same color but it's not far off either, the old color was "DCDCDC" and the new seems to be "CCCCCC". . .as for the rest, I don't remember the exact colors. I will also say that the text isn't exactly black either, it's a really dark gray or "dim" black. I've taken to specifying black as the text color for my posts otherwise, they end up looking like this.(< standard color)

[bulanula]

Same stuff you guys are saying affects me.

The older site was much cleaner and easier to work with.

Where is the front page with all the articles etc. anyway ?

[s1nykuL]

Like many people I am none to fond of change, any change. People get used to things and feel comfortable with familiarity.

Fugger is doing his best for this site.

If you don't like the look, don't whine, do something about it.

Here is one option:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...lor-that-site/

I am sure there are others.

Edit:
I have noticed one flaw though, my post count is not incrementing. Not that I care that much, I just thought I would bring it to attention.

[Tim]

It's actually starting to grow on me.

[nanoprobe]

It's actually starting to grow on me.

Which part of you would that be?

[LinusTech]

New posts is very difficult to view, and the colour scheme is far more tiring for my eyes, especially on my big monitor at home... Just throwing my 2 cents in.

[Particle]

I don't know why the text doesn't look black to a lot of people, other than perhaps the new post background's color's slightly darker shade (16 shades) decreasing the contrast with text (unchanged shade) and people mistaking that for lighter text. Text is shown as #000000 (pure black).

[s1nykuL]

I don't know why the text doesn't look black to a lot of people, other than perhaps the new post background's color's slightly darker shade (16 shades) decreasing the contrast with text (unchanged shade) and people mistaking that for lighter text. Text is shown as #000000 (pure black).

Probably because it isn't black
The css that colors the text in posts is as follows;

.postrow {
color: #333333;
font: 13px Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;
}

[zalbard]

Er, no way.
http://www.colorcombos.com/333333-hex-color