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    is there any different between bios f6d with f6???

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    yes F6 is the latest (official bios) & obviously newer than F6d, some of the changes are memory compatibility related
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    Thank god work is being done on memory compatibility.....right now it is SHOCKING.

    890GPA-UD3H with Athlon x2 5200+ and F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH ram gave 3.95GHz on unlocked cpu (became x4 with L3 cache) and 1800MHz ram speed.

    GA-990FXA-UD3 with same cpu and ram is unstable when unlocked cpu, and even when cpu is locked ram can't make rated speed at rated timings and cpu only stable at 3.4GHz. Ram always wants to run at silly loose timings.

    @dinos22 or Sin0822 i have two questions since you seem to be in the know with gigabyte;

    Are there any indications that modules can be unlocked on these FX just like cores on Phenom?

    I have a Rev1.0 990FXA-UD3 that has very crackly sound from the onboard 3.5mm jacks and popping from HDMI......is this a known issue and maybe down to drivers for the dolby realtek chip or have i just got a broken board?

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    I jumped from F5 to F6 on my FXA990-UD7. I'm using Phenom II X4 965BE and some old G.Skill (SPD W21,2007) that wants 1.9v. (And here I can add a wish for adding up to 2.3V for DIMM )
    When running CAS7 and F5 I could boot with 1880MHz and then up the ram with AOD to 1920MHz. Now I have big problem doing that. I can boot with 1904MHz and then raise to 1920MHz.
    To be able to run benches at 1920MHz, I have to loose some timings with AOD, that I did not have to do earlier. (I'm not at home now so I can't check exactly which setting I had to lower, but I had to lower something like 50NBCK to 54NBCK)

    I have not done that much testing yet, but I guess there's some changing with timings wich hopefully will make some boost for some people.

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    Does AMD Overdrive or Gigabyte EasyTune 6 actually work for anyone else out there with a 990FXA-UD3? Neither one will actually change multipliers for me and they both read some frequencies and voltages wrong. I have to make all changes in the BIOS.

    @blossa: At least on my UD3 with an 8120, F4 wouldn't POST with my DDR3-2000 memory set above 1600. On F5B I could do 2000 stable. Perhaps your board is in a similar position where a future BIOS update alone will help.
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    Particle: It is not a big issue. I just posted to inform others that MAYBE they should try to loosen some timings before saying it is a bad BIOS.

    Btw, EasyTunes don't work good at all for me either. However, I havn't spent much time with it so maybe it works better for others.

    So, anyone had a chance to test BD with the new BIOS? Any news worth mentioning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus View Post
    Thank god work is being done on memory compatibility.....right now it is SHOCKING.

    890GPA-UD3H with Athlon x2 5200+ and F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH ram gave 3.95GHz on unlocked cpu (became x4 with L3 cache) and 1800MHz ram speed.

    GA-990FXA-UD3 with same cpu and ram is unstable when unlocked cpu, and even when cpu is locked ram can't make rated speed at rated timings and cpu only stable at 3.4GHz. Ram always wants to run at silly loose timings.

    @dinos22 or Sin0822 i have two questions since you seem to be in the know with gigabyte;

    Are there any indications that modules can be unlocked on these FX just like cores on Phenom?

    I have a Rev1.0 990FXA-UD3 that has very crackly sound from the onboard 3.5mm jacks and popping from HDMI......is this a known issue and maybe down to drivers for the dolby realtek chip or have i just got a broken board?
    Dino would know better than I, but I don't think you can unlock like you can with phenom II.

    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Does AMD Overdrive or Gigabyte EasyTune 6 actually work for anyone else out there with a 990FXA-UD3? Neither one will actually change multipliers for me and they both read some frequencies and voltages wrong. I have to make all changes in the BIOS.

    @blossa: At least on my UD3 with an 8120, F4 wouldn't POST with my DDR3-2000 memory set above 1600. On F5B I could do 2000 stable. Perhaps your board is in a similar position where a future BIOS update alone will help.
    Both work, but not with multiplier. At least with easytune, AMD OD is the only way to do over 1.9v under LN2, and HTT i like to change with easytune.

    I installed alld rivers tho, maybe you are missing somthing?

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    Got my 990FXA-UD3 today. It says Rev 1.0 on the PCB, but it looks a little different then the picture of 1.0 on the website. It has the "SLI" logo where it is on the 1.2 board, and the "SATA" logo is to the right of the SB heatsink instead of under it.
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    Augustus you may have either faulty speakers or faulty board if you hear popping. check with another set of speakers before you can conclude which is at fault

    in terms of unlocking older chips i will ask, i think i have one somewhere to check but im away for a week from today so cant really do anything till i get back, hopefully someone can give me heads up but i dont see why it wouldnt unlock older chips
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    Need some help with making the correct choice, as many are having some kind of issue with there 990FX mobo, be it Giga, Asus or MSI whic one would you guys/ladies advice? I am leaning towards the UD7 as it looks a stunning mobo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanie View Post
    Need some help with making the correct choice, as many are having some kind of issue with there 990FX mobo, be it Giga, Asus or MSI whic one would you guys/ladies advice? I am leaning towards the UD7 as it looks a stunning mobo.
    Just curious but why would you buy a bulldozer cpu?

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    What's the difference between ud3 rev 1.0 and 1.2 ? Only esata controller? I've noticed some different components displacement around cpu area.
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    i think esata controller & 1394 header on bottom of board or something along those lines
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    Trying to test out my 8120 with the F5 BIOS. No matter what I do, it throttles back to 2.8Ghz when stress testing. All power saving stuff is off, turbo and CPB are off, C1E, C6, CNQ, all that is off. Tried OCing just to 3.8 and it still drops down to 2.8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_jones_ View Post
    Just curious but why would you buy a bulldozer cpu?
    To play with, have fun with. Bored with my I7 and it a dead product

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    Well got my UD7 and man what a stunning mobo. Installed it my chassis with a 965 until my 8150P arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    Augustus you may have either faulty speakers or faulty board if you hear popping. check with another set of speakers before you can conclude which is at fault

    in terms of unlocking older chips i will ask, i think i have one somewhere to check but im away for a week from today so cant really do anything till i get back, hopefully someone can give me heads up but i dont see why it wouldnt unlock older chips
    Thanks for the replies dinos22 and sin0822.

    I've pretty much given up on unlocking Phenom (as i'm definitley getting an FX of some description) on this board and was more wondering about the FX unlocking. What AMD are saying about unlocking FX they also said about Phenom yet the MB manufacturers still managed it. I'd be interested to find out what seemingly borked modules on FX can still do as i've had a fair few Phenom that turned out to be great even with so-called faulty cores; it all adds to the fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil View Post
    Trying to test out my 8120 with the F5 BIOS. No matter what I do, it throttles back to 2.8Ghz when stress testing. All power saving stuff is off, turbo and CPB are off, C1E, C6, CNQ, all that is off. Tried OCing just to 3.8 and it still drops down to 2.8.
    While this may be of little comfort, do know that it's not just you. My 8120 does the same thing. Specifically what is happening seems to be that the TDP estimation part of turbo isn't properly disabled. You'll note that the further you overclock the more cores are throttled and for longer. You'll actually start going negative in performance gains somewhere between 4.3 and 4.6 GHz due to it. Any setting beyond 14x is going to cause it, however, so no matter what your BD isn't going to perform as well as it would on other boards. Your chip is going to head back to a 14x multiplier (on an 8120) to be precise. Consequently, if you want to mitigate the problem in the mean time between now and when Gigabyte fixes it in a future BIOS, you can overclock using a high HTT and lower multiplier to reduce the impact. It sort of negates the purpose of a black edition, but it'll work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    While this may be of little comfort, do know that it's not just you. My 8120 does the same thing. Specifically what is happening seems to be that the TDP estimation part of turbo isn't properly disabled. You'll note that the further you overclock the more cores are throttled and for longer. You'll actually start going negative in performance gains somewhere between 4.3 and 4.6 GHz due to it. Any setting beyond 14x is going to cause it, however, so no matter what your BD isn't going to perform as well as it would on other boards. Your chip is going to head back to a 14x multiplier (on an 8120) to be precise. Consequently, if you want to mitigate the problem in the mean time between now and when Gigabyte fixes it in a future BIOS, you can overclock using a high HTT and lower multiplier to reduce the impact. It sort of negates the purpose of a black edition, but it'll work.
    I experienced the same issue and supplied a solution a few days ago in this thread.
    Load AMD overdrive. Enable turbocore, hit OK. Disable turbocore, hit ok.
    Tadaaaa! No more throttling. It works.....use it! I found this in one of the online reviews. It disables the power management.

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    I remembered having read something about it and did try that, but the problem is that AOD doesn't seem to work on the UD3. Changing settings in it does nothing, including toggling Turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r View Post
    What's the difference between ud3 rev 1.0 and 1.2 ? Only esata controller? I've noticed some different components displacement around cpu area.
    Load-line calibration is adjustable by software, rev 1.0 this wasnt possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    I remembered having read something about it and did try that, but the problem is that AOD doesn't seem to work on the UD3. Changing settings in it does nothing, including toggling Turbo.
    Worked for me. But my board and or CPU died running prime at 3.8 with 1.28v with max temp of 53C.
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    I have a UD7 and it sufferes some pretty serious Vdroop. It forces me to use insane voltages just so it hits the right voltage when it is under load. So far i have had my 8120 up to 5.175Ghz single thread stable(superpi) and 5.060Ghz 8 thread stable (wprime). But i have to use 1.725V which droops all the way down to 1.61V when loaded. I am using decent water cooling and i am only just starting to hit low 60C. So right in the thermal limit. Does anyone know how to disable modules so i can do a CPU-Z suicide run? I am at may ceiling with all modules running and want to see if teh thermal load is reduced by disabling cores/modules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbster1966 View Post
    I have a UD7 and it sufferes some pretty serious Vdroop. It forces me to use insane voltages just so it hits the right voltage when it is under load. So far i have had my 8120 up to 5.175Ghz single thread stable(superpi) and 5.060Ghz 8 thread stable (wprime). But i have to use 1.725V which droops all the way down to 1.61V when loaded. I am using decent water cooling and i am only just starting to hit low 60C. So right in the thermal limit. Does anyone know how to disable modules so i can do a CPU-Z suicide run? I am at may ceiling with all modules running and want to see if teh thermal load is reduced by disabling cores/modules.
    Need to set 1.7V to get 1.55V under load...
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    It looks like I am wrong. It didn't work last weekend when I tried it on F5B, but AOD does appear to do the Turbo trick on BIOS F5 (released Monday). Excellent. Thanks for mentioning it as I'd written it off as a dead end already.
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