on topic with the thread, why would any1 use the jmicron sataIII controller for raid or at all.


Quote Originally Posted by Ao1 View Post
OCZ are not a retailer. They manufacture a product with their name on it. That includes the PCB, the case, NAND and SF controller.

• They messed up on the case - wrong size does not fit in laptops
• They messed up the PCB boards - post production botch fixes
• They screwed people over with 25nm nand. They said 34nm was no longer available and now they are posting on their forum asking members to push retailers to start selling V2 drives with guaranteed Intel 34nm NAND that they refuse to stock
• They push out drives with RC firmware without any validation

The Core was blamed on MS & JMicron. The V1 was blamed on Indilinx. Now it seems Sandforce are the problem?

Let's see if Intel bring out a SF drive. If they do you can guarantee it will be just as reliable as their own controllers. Why? Because Intel will make their own firmware and it will be properly tested before it goes to market.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4256/t...review-120gb/5

Before we get to the Vertex 3 we have to talk a bit about how validation works with SandForce and its partners. Keep in mind that SandForce is still a pretty small company, so while it does a lot of testing and validation internally the company leans heavily on its partners to also shoulder the burden of validation. As a result drive/firmware validation is split among both SandForce and its partners. This approach allows SF drives to be validated heavier than if only one of the sides did all of the testing. While SandForce provides the original firmware, it's the partner's decision whether or not to ship drives based on how comfortable they feel with their validation. SandForce's validation suite includes both client and enterprise tests, which lengthens the validation time.

The shipping Vertex 3s are using RC firmware from SandForce, the MP label can't be assigned to anything that hasn't completely gone through SandForce's validation suite.

on the sata SSD drives, ocz dose not make them, they do not design them, they do not make the firmware directly, they do not make controllers that have gone into any of the drives at the time and there is no RTM firmware when they launch the drives.

ocz gives awesome support for their drives and ssds are new, sure there were problem with the jmicron having no cash so it was not suited to mlc, then the indi drives they had used naya nand for a while and im not sure on the sandforce but they dont seam to die more than others (or i dont hear about them.) when ocz goes and puts in an order for the controller they want and what kind of nand its not like they have time to evaluate every batch of nand, they also cannot order bins as the chips are not binned, so its like going to frys and trying to pickup an overclocking kit but u cannot do anything but look at rev numbers or a corsair stick. the only company that makes their own is samsuing, and only crucial (as they are a subsidiary of micron) makes the nand for their drives.

SSDs are new and there is no OS that works right with mlc and an onboard controller or one without dedicated cash. i have had a core v2, an agility and an intel g2. the core v2 was crap as a boot drive but it worked great as a read only drive for core differential partitions for hyperV, then the agility was awesome but ive killed 3 of them, and then intel will shudder like the core v2 if u read and write to it at the same time.


so ocz replaces drives quickly, windows is not friendly and the competition has its own problems.