i7-2600K could be cut prices

[cesariuth]

Only if BD is superior in performance...but that is true right??

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[Leeghoofd]

If only that would be true

[Skratch]

They could raise prices also haha

[NKrader]

lol when has amd ever held up? they will let us down like always.

[blindbox]

It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

[Sparky]

lol when has amd ever held up? they will let us down like always.

"like always" ?

Yes over the past few years intel has been ahead of AMD but also in the past AMD has punched intel square in the nose. It would be good for everyone for AMD to do it again at some point, sooner the better.

[InCredible]

apparently NKrader doesnt recall amd64's and the x2's that where stomping amd until c2d.

[SKYMTL]

Ah yes, the A64 generation. A mistake Intel will likely never forget and will likely never repeat.

Unfortunately, AMD is known for being UNABLE to repeat their feats from that timeframe for the simple fact that they are literally a generation behind Intel. The bugs with the first Phenom processors and the constant delays with BD mean they will continue competing against Intel's outgoing processors unless a miracle occurs. Let's hope it does occur since this market is due for a shakeup, whether it comes from AMD or ARM...

[Sparky]

I keep seeing this chatter about "bulldozer delays" but then I keep seeing others saying no it isn't delayed. What's up with that?

[Zloyd]

so this is intel saying they wont cut prices.

[kadozer]

Only couple weeks to find out. Not holding my breath though.

[Nintendork]

Athlon was better clock per clock than Pentium III (and for less price at same performance, also 1st 1Ghz x86 cpu), Athlon XP more of the same against P4. So it's not only Athlon 64, it seems people have bad memory. Athlon 64 was just the exclamation point.

With Athlon 64 the difference was so big than even biased sites/magazines couldn't put enough make-up to the P4.


Obviuosly:
In Athlon era AMD had trouble with mobo manufacturers, even more OEM blackmails from intel, less production capacity, etc.

[aintz]

amd was fine until conroe showed up. hopefully bulldozer is good.

[CrazyNutz]

Athlon was better clock per clock than Pentium III

Absolutely Incorrect. I do a lot of professional programming and during this time based on my test Athlon was up to ~35% slower than PIII in almost every aspect (this of course being my own real world experience) , however I cannot vouch for gaming as I did not do any gaming in this era. Some of my colleagues said Athlon was better at gaming.

With Athlon 64 the difference was so big than even biased sites/magazines couldn't put enough make-up to the P4.

No doubt P4(i.e. netburst) was a fail, AMD Athlon 64 stomped all over Intel during this time, however this was the first time since the AM386dx 40mhz days.

Actually P4 was faster at times provided prefetching instructions were used (and used properly), but of course intel was really arrogant in thinking dev's would optimize (or reprogram) their code for the deep pipeline (i.e. netburst) the P4 had. This actually was why hyperthreading was created, so they could attempt to have multiple threads feed the pipeline automatically, since they figured out dev's were not going to do it explicitly.

[sin0822]

i loved my pentium 4s, never touched AMD back then even though that was the smart thing to do.

[NKrader]

"like always" ?

Yes over the past few years intel has been ahead of AMD but also in the past AMD has punched intel square in the nose. It would be good for everyone for AMD to do it again at some point, sooner the better.

apparently NKrader doesnt recall amd64's and the x2's that where stomping amd until c2d.

i do remember the p4 vs athlon xp. but thats almost ancient history.

i have my relic athlon 3200/a7n8x-d rig sitting in pieces on a shelf right now.

[ajaidev]

The thing is that Intel has 3-4 projections and these are based on ES performance and data collection along with educated guess work. Now in 2-3 of the scenarios SNB/SNB E wins but in 1 it does not.

I would imagine they take comparisons based on die size but am not sure...

[BeepBeep2]

Absolutely Incorrect. I do a lot of professional programming and during this time based on my test Athlon was up to ~35% slower than PIII in almost every aspect (this of course being my own real world experience) , however I cannot vouch for gaming as I did not do any gaming in this era. Some of my colleagues said Athlon was better at gaming.

It would depend what Athlon / PIII you were using...

Athlon went all the way to 2.3 Ghz and even the higher end T-Birds (133 Mhz FSB) were close to PIII iirc.

[Pontos]

Ah yes, the A64 generation. A mistake Intel will likely never forget and will likely never repeat.

It wont happen again because Intel wont be caught idling without a projected new tech for the foreseeable future again as it happened in the Netburst era.
The original plan was to extend Netburst until like 2010 or some crazy BS like that.
Ever since A64 Intel learned their lesson and have been keeping a tick-tock schedule.

Intel fanboys that love to bash AMD should be thankful instead, given how AMD made Intel move their lazy netbursty butt.

[Shadov]

lol when has amd ever held up? they will let us down like always.

Says the guy with an QX6700 @ 3Ghz, Xeon @ 2Ghz and Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz... Ohh the irony...

[XRL8]

First Athlon WAS overally faster than PIII, mainly in FPU tasks, that was a surprise for everyone.(After K6-2 which had VERY weak fpu)
Then AMD was first to the 1ghz race (Intel in a rush have put out chips pretty much factory overclocked which had stability problems)
Then Intel introduced P4 wiliamette, which was utter failure of grand magnitude paired with very pricey RAMBUS ram.Athlon XP was faster while being cheaper (plus platform was cheaper),even PIII was faster in most of the tasks.
With the northwood Intel gained ground,AMD responded with A64 which again stomped Intel, then Intel released prescott (or presshot for some) AMD had first X2`s .
So yes.Intel is always faster blah blah blah ;-).After conroe AMD didnt REALLY do anything substantial,it was rehash again and again of the same, thats why they cant enter high end again, hector ruiz ,destroyer of motorola before it, almost did the same to amd, and there was some insider trading, shady things going on with AMD.

[Syn.]

lol when has amd ever held up? they will let us down like always.

Why be that guy?

[rintamarotta]

AMD will come that generation back, in future they will release cpu that will crush intel.
Im not shure if BD can be that magical cpu but wait few generations forward, something is in development

[Chrono Detector]

Really hope that Bulldozer can actually perform, I want one. Hope AMD does get it right this time.

[Nikolasz]

destroyer of motorola before it.

I feel bad for mc , via, cyrix, and many others.

Cyrix cpus vs pentium1 was awesome war

Let intel keep this 2600 pcu in storages, im not buying it simply coz it cost too much.. maybe for 25$