Preliminary Bulldozer and Llano Pricing Revealed

[jimbo75]

you are troll baiting me and I have done nothing but talk about the topic at hand.

No you're talking crap about future intel products beating imminent AMD products, with nothing except "it's intel" as justification.

[perkam]

Now that Perkam mentioned the slide wombat posted,I don't share the enthusiasm of some posters about 3.6-3.8Ghz clock speeds for 8C. It would be great,but let's be a bit more realistic ,shall we?
As for QC Zambezi,maybe a speed in line with current X4s,around 3.4Ghz + turbo .At least that is what I expect.

I actually meant surprised in a positive sense, but if you're expecting 4Ghz, yes you will be disappointed, unless you count Turbo Core.

I actually find it quite exciting for there to be, at the very least, no drop in clock rates in going from latest revisions of Phenom X4 to the first revision of Bulldozer, which is I found the clockspeeds to be absolutely great.

It's going to give some good improvements over Phenom in most tests, which is very exciting to me. Can't really understand how this wouldn't be the case for everyone.

[formula M]

What are you talking about?

ps yes Im an over clocker,when did xtremesystems turn into the apple forum?

and when did I mention anything about overclocking to begin with

See..? You repeat yourself when called upon to understand said archetecture. Exact same answer ("what is this, an apple forum")...

Again, you have failed to demonstrate you understand archetectual differences, & just seem to yell "intel" as your answer for everything (because ur an OC).

Are you not embarrased?

[spursindonesia]

please people with sanity, don't feed the trolls, just report them to the authority as you see it. Responding to them is exhausting, it's like trying to paint over water, useless.

[RussC]

Come on, that argument isn't gonna cut it. Either company can cram as many cores into a given area till the cows come home, or at least until u cant cool it anymore. The winner will allways be the fastest single thread/core company. Thats been INTC and will be for the forseeable future. Again, if BD was an INTC killer, we'd know about it already.

RussC

This isn't marketing talk, the same is true for Intel. They do 10 core chips now, are you able to afford one? I am not.

[hieuhef]

I could have sworn this went down exactly the same in the other Zambezi thread. Yeesh, don't people get tired of rehashing the same arguments over and over?

[informal]

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Unlock FX4110 to 6110/8110?

[AbRASiON]

Come on, that argument isn't gonna cut it. Either company can cram as many cores into a given area till the cows come home, or at least until u cant cool it anymore. The winner will allways be the fastest single thread/core company. Thats been INTC and will be for the forseeable future. Again, if BD was an INTC killer, we'd know about it already.

RussC

I have to agree with this. I hope you're wrong but there seems to be a lot of sad and desperate AMD fans dying for this thing to kick ass and I feel sorry for them.
I wish it would but honestly, exactly as you say - if this thing was a killer, we'd already know by now.

[jimbo75]

I have to agree with this. I hope you're wrong but there seems to be a lot of sad and desperate AMD fans dying for this thing to kick ass and I feel sorry for them.
I wish it would but honestly, exactly as you say - if this thing was a killer, we'd already know by now.

Wow never heard that argument before!

[zalbard]

Maybe it isn't supposed to compete in high end? Why does a 320$ CPU have to compete with a 800$ orwhatitspricenow? Those Intel 6 cores are a giant ripoff in my eyes and I am sad people fell for it.

You aren't reading my posts. I explained the pricing situation (no competition). And i7 970 can already be had for $400, you know...

As for being demolished, do you assume AMD's R&D department ceases to exist after releasing bulldozer? Will that be the last chip AMD ever releases to the market?

Typical fanboy overreaction. I never said that.

That's the problem. It's NOT that obvious. It's a new architecture, unlike anything we have seen so far and we already know there might be new and interesting approaches how single threads are being processed. Saying single threaded performance = multithreaded peformance / number of cores doesn't work when you have strong turbo modes and a very different architecture, how cores are being defined.

Intel has turbo, too, you know. And is already way ahead on single core performance. Let's just hope AMD can catch up. If they get ahead then it means that 8 core BD will be the fastest thing on the market BY FAR, which means that the pricing is going to be very high.
If they do catch up then it will be a nice competitive product in both well and poorly threaded applications. With advantages in well threaded applications, obviously.

Yep, I quoted that because I found it interesting to how much conclusions you arrived at after this 99% rumour info.

Once again, you aren't reading. I explained how I got to my conclusion. Yet you fail to see that and for some reason decide to insist on your way of ME coming to MY conclusion, lol.

Yep, AMD is doomed.

Once again, typical fanboy overreaction. I never said that.

Drop it, seriously, it doesn't make you look good.

[informal]

Ok fellas,stay cool. It's just a CPU .

[cesariuth]

AMD FX-8130p 3.8GHz and 4.2GHz TC:

http://www.ozeros.com/2011/05/amd-za...ias-reveladas/

http://wccftech.com/2011/05/22/asus-...fx-processors/

[DarthShader]

Typical fanboy overreaction. I never said that.

Typical fanboy rebuttal. See, I can throw the "f" word around too.

Of course you didn't say that, but you failed to acknowledge there is going to be more from AMD during this and next year, only mentioning the new stuff Intel is going to deliver on the market. Obvious bias is obvious.

Drop it, seriously, it doesn't make you look good.

Does your reply in five paragraphs make you look any better? It always takes two for an argument...

EDIT: Lol, that pic is making headlines! But how did they arrive at 3.8GHz??

[Warwian]

That's what I am thinking as well, ie. the +500mhz boost for all cores being used in more types of workloads. But it still doesn't make sense to have the stock freq lower on the higher TDP model - what If a worst case scenario power virus workload would be launched on both chips?

Would the TDP-values make more sense if the processors were clocked as I first proposed? Thus with stockspeeds of 3.6GHz for the FX-8110 and 3.8GHz for the FX-8130P. And a TC boost of +400MHz for both of them.
Still feels like a 30Ws TDP is quite much for a frequency increase of 200MHz but it still feels more likely than the FX-8130P having a lower stock frequency over the FX-8110 when having a higher potential turbo frequency.

AMD FX-8130p 3.8GHz and 4.2GHz TC:

http://www.ozeros.com/2011/05/amd-za...ias-reveladas/

http://wccftech.com/2011/05/22/asus-...fx-processors/

Those frequencies are identical to what I posted earlier in the thread. Have they been confirmed? I didn't manage to figure out what sources those sites had for those claims.

[informal]

Guys you are the source for 3.8Ghz clock speed ^^.Some site picked up the frequencies from here and then all of them reposted the same thing . Amazing!

[demonkevy666]

Guys you are the source for 3.8Ghz clock speed ^^.Some site picked up the frequencies from here and then all of them reposted the same thing . Amazing!

LOL I knew that.

[AbRASiON]

Wow never heard that argument before!

It's an opinion, not an argument.

[Skratch]

See..? You repeat yourself when called upon to understand said archetecture. Exact same answer ("what is this, an apple forum")...

Again, you have failed to demonstrate you understand archetectual differences, & just seem to yell "intel" as your answer for everything (because ur an OC).

Are you not embarrased?

I know everything about said "archetecture" Im trying to understand what your still talking about.

Go back and read my posts and try to comprehend my valid points on the pricing of BD compared to intels currant offerings.

I never talked about OC and you do know that Ivy bridge is coming out Q1 2012.How is that not relevent to AMDS BD that is about to launch?

If these prices are true then everything I said stands.

You people seem to be very up tight when someone brings up intel.I never even mentioned anything about how well sandys clock because I have no idea how well BD will clock.

[Sparky]

I think people need a bunch of these

[jjj]

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[duploxxx]

Guys you are the source for 3.8Ghz clock speed ^^.Some site picked up the frequencies from here and then all of them reposted the same thing . Amazing!

You know what is really amasing: THIS:

By DonanimHaber:



Llano pricing is down right insane if its true 0_o

who made up these desktop cpu types for LIano and BD, time to put in few web orders

[w0mbat]

[Macadamia]

err... http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99123.html

[w0mbat]

everything is locked :-(

[Macadamia]

everything is locked :-(

multiplier-wise on the Llanos?
Those are aimed at OEMs really, I don't even see any reason why they should bring much of it to the channel; if they bring it to retail we'll be seeing another 754 situation.