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    The write speed on the Torqx shows that it's not really comfortable with the workload, is there some cleaning you could perform.
    If you run a typical benchmark, how does it perform?

    I wonder if there are factory marked bad blocks on the other drives, the m4 carries that attribute as well as a few others.
    What I'm saying is that a few bad blocks is not the end of the world.

    Some of my C300s, m4s got a lot of bad blocks and they were already there when I got them.
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    Speaking of the Torqx 2, I shut down the computer after doing some windows updates just after posting the status up.

    I wanted to make sure TRIM was active, however the drive decided it was not going to be readable again. I am going to have to secure erase it, then put it back in and not reboot the endurance computer again until it is really dead.

    There isn't anything I can do for the Torqx 2 performance wise, it is just a terrible chipset that doesnt handle writes well. it scores pretty poorly for it in benchmarks after all the NAND is initally used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canthearu View Post
    Patriot Torqx-2 64GB - Day 90

    Lots more bad blocks on the Torqx 2, and the vertex 4 popped it's first bad block!
    The V4 is only 10TB ahead of the Octane when it started in with reallocations. Of course, it made it to 300TB in 18 days.

    If you post an update tomorrow and there are more reallocations, I'd start to worry (ala the Octane and both VTs).

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    Since we were discussing it the other day --

    after talking with Intel support, it turns out that 8860 is different from 8850 only because the drives are made in different locations. For some reason, Intel FW gets a new designation when the drive is made at a different factory, so 8860 and 8850 are the same thing.

    That's probably not the most elegant way to put it. Oh, and my dead E is out of warranty by a month.

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    That is just tought luck....
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Since we were discussing it the other day --

    after talking with Intel support, it turns out that 8860 is different from 8850 only because the drives are made in different locations. For some reason, Intel FW gets a new designation when the drive is made at a different factory, so 8860 and 8850 are the same thing.

    That's probably not the most elegant way to put it. Oh, and my dead E is out of warranty by a month.
    That's just terrible, it doesn't respond to diagnostics or anything at all?
    (your talk to Intel resulted in nothing?)
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    I emailed them last week, the email told me to call. I called, sat on hold for 40 minutes, then was told I had contacted the wrong department (their phone system doesn't have an SSD department yet), so they transferred me to the right people. I discussed the issues and asked if there was some way to get ahold of the newer firmware (8860) because I could reflash it if I had newer FW (you can't downflash or reflash to the same version). That's when I was told that there was no newer FW than 8850 -- 8860 just means it was made in a different factory.

    I can see the SMART data for the drive with Linux, I tried SEing it with PartedMagic, I tried other things as well, but any access of the drive causes the system to hang.

    You live, you learn I guess. The lady I spoke with was quite nice, but there's nothing for it...

    I was also able to run some diagnostics with linux, so I did quick and extended self tests, but they post passed.
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    Todays update:

    m4
    879.2797 TiB
    3722 hours
    Avg speed 74.55MiB/s.
    AD gone from 111 to 107.
    P/E 15163.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    613.73 TiB
    23034 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 156
    Available Reserved space: 90
    MWI=124
    MD5 =OK
    42.13 MiB/s on avg


    Intel X25-E 64GB
    32,52 TiB
    121-30=91 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 0
    Available Reserved space: 100
    MWI=99
    MD5 =OK
    101.48 MiB/s on avg
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I emailed them last week, the email told me to call. I called, sat on hold for 40 minutes, then was told I had contacted the wrong department (their phone system doesn't have an SSD department yet), so they transferred me to the right people. I discussed the issues and asked if there was some way to get ahold of the newer firmware (8860) because I could reflash it if I had newer FW (you can't downflash or reflash to the same version). That's when I was told that there was no newer FW than 8850 -- 8860 just means it was made in a different factory.

    I can see the SMART data for the drive with Linux, I tried SEing it with PartedMagic, I tried other things as well, but any access of the drive causes the system to hang.

    You live, you learn I guess. The lady I spoke with was quite nice, but there's nothing for it...

    I was also able to run some diagnostics with linux, so I did quick and extended self tests, but they post passed.
    Will the Intel Tool Box work on the E or is it one of the early uncompatible versions?
    If Intel TB will work with it you can run a full diagnostic scan from the TB.
    I'm not sure it would help but I thought it worth mentioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
    Will the Intel Tool Box work on the E or is it one of the early uncompatible versions?
    If Intel TB will work with it you can run a full diagnostic scan from the TB.
    I'm not sure it would help but I thought it worth mentioning.
    Toolbox hangs on drive detection.

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    Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)

    955.98TB Host writes
    Reallocated sectors : 05 43
    Available Reserved Space : E8 99
    POH 8571
    MD5 OK

    33.25MiB/s on avg (~59 hours)



    It survived 1 Year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post



    It survived 1 Year

    AWESOME! Let me be the first to say congratulations!

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    Samsung 830 256GB Day 58

    1,387,397.65 GiB
    1,354.88 TiB

    291.73
    MB/s Average
    1373 Hours

    6024 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 1

    4/0 Erase/Program Fail
    Used Reserved Block Count: 8/16384 sectors

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    Thanks!

    Lets hope it lasts past 1PiB.
    Hard to tell how long it will last, one can only be surprised by what this little drive has done so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)


    33.25MiB/s on avg (~59 hours)



    It survived 1 Year

    Congratulations!!
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    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
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    1 year and the drive refuses to die...
    Current System:
    eVGA 680i SLi "A2" P30 BIOS
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    Congrats on the 1 year birthday

    Absolutely amazing .... the X25-V continues to plough on.

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    Guys, you got more work coming We need someone to confirm that this new tech works:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/166123/ST...Endurance.html
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    Samsung 830 256GB Day 59

    1,406,466.30 GiB
    1,373.50 TiB

    294.37
    MB/s Average
    1393 Hours

    6135 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 1

    4/0 Erase/Program Fail
    Used Reserved Block Count: 8/16384 sectors

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    Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)

    958.61TB Host writes
    Reallocated sectors : 05 43
    Available Reserved Space : E8 99
    POH 8594
    MD5 OK

    33.23MiB/s on avg (~82 hours)
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    Since I power cycled the 830 today, I did the update. 4 hours later, the PE cycle count is still the same. I can't tell you how irritating this is... I bet it takes 72 hours to start incrementing again.

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    WOW! congrats! I believe that was the impetus for this very thread
    great to see it go the full year, has anyone ever went back and checked that Japanese website where they were testing their drive? i wonder if it is still going?

    btw you guys are awesome, all that have offered up drives are real contributors, and that is reflected in the milliion+ views of this thread.

    Truly one of the most epic threads ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computurd View Post
    btw you guys are awesome, all that have offered up drives are real contributors, and that is reflected in the milliion+ views of this thread.

    Truly one of the most epic threads ever
    Perhaps in commemoration of a truly epic human endeavor Samsung will meet me halfway and fix 177 WEAR LEVELING COUNT!

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    I forget to check for firmware updates on the Samsung.
    I'm sure we'll get noticed when there is a new one.

    Correcting 177 should be an easy fix, at least that's what one would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    I forget to check for firmware updates on the Samsung.
    I'm sure we'll get noticed when there is a new one.

    Correcting 177 should be an easy fix, at least that's what one would think.
    It's actually started increasing again, so it shouldn't be too far off from where it should be. 03 is still the latest FW, but I'm surprised there haven't been any since. It took only 9 or so hours to start increasing again, not 72.
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