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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Also, Intrepid 3 is a fantastic name IMHO.
    OCZ's sole area of excellence, marketing and hype!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Samsung 830 256 Day 36
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    The Samsung 830 finally hit MWI 1 at 1/1/3600 WLC 177.
    I'll look through the logs to try and estimate when it hit MWI 1 more precisely.
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    I'm about to perform some testing on the Octane to see if I can resurect it.

    Wish me luck.
    Did you find out when it changed or should I just use the value you reported?

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    THE OCTANE LIVES!!
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    Okay. The Octane is really, really dead now. It dropped out for the last time, and is now a lifeless hulk.
    Looks to behave just like a few of the other drives that "just died", a few disconnects and then game-over in a mattter of days.
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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    544.50 TiB
    22575hours
    Reallocated sectors : 123 to 127
    Available Reserved space: 92
    MWI=163 to 156
    MD5 =OK
    42.97 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    759.8775 TiB
    3242 hours
    Avg speed 73.09 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 178 to 175.
    P/E 13133.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


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    Can you update the chart with my last numbers?
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    @B.A.T
    Sure

    Endurance_cr_20120425_ii.png

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    And so the X25-V finally got past 900TiB

    Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)

    900.83TB Host writes
    Reallocated sectors : 05 41
    Available Reserved Space : E8 99
    POH 8085
    MD5 OK

    33.17MiB/s on avg (~356 hours)

    I'm thinking of doing another data retention test, I might wait until it's past 1 year of testing though.
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    Anvil,

    The 830 exhaused MWI at 3600 with 831,233GiB

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    UPDATE
    That's not actually true whatsoever.

    It actually hit MWI 1 at what is most likely 3582.

    Last log at MWI2: 2/2/3578 at 827,351 GiB
    First log at MWI1: 1/1/3582 at 828,317 GiB

    So it's probably 1/1/3580 and 827,911 GiB

    That's as close as I can get. Somewhere between 3579 and 3582 Wear Leveling Count, MWI hit 1.

    The 830 is using 230GiB per WLC, so an increase in WLC of 3 is almost exactly 690GiB. I believe 3580 is actually the value when MWI hit 1, but as I said, I can only narrow it down to a PE cycle count range of 3 (or 690GiB).
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    A couple of hours early, but the 830 passed its 3 month data retention test with flying colours. Hmm, what to do now. Leave if for a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
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    And so the X25-V finally got past 900TiB

    I'm thinking of doing another data retention test, I might wait until it's past 1 year of testing though.
    Wait for the petabyte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ao1 View Post
    A couple of hours early, but the 830 passed its 3 month data retention test with flying colours. Hmm, what to do now. Leave if for a year?
    How about another kind of stress test? A continuous read of the files until it dies and watch for the evolution of bad sectors evolution. Now, the cells should be weaker and read disturb effect might have a bigger impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ao1 View Post
    A couple of hours early, but the 830 passed its 3 month data retention test with flying colours. Hmm, what to do now. Leave if for a year?
    I actually think you should continue testing the drive as you were before. Do it now!!! And post some recent smart data, too. Letting it sit in a drawer for 365 days isn't going to do the people of Earth much good. For all you know, running that in the dirt will cure cancer. So that's the course I'd advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ao1 View Post
    A couple of hours early, but the 830 passed its 3 month data retention test with flying colours. Hmm, what to do now. Leave if for a year?
    My vote goes for writing the same amount again, and then leaving it for 3 more months for another retention test.

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    dudes check this out
    this is from a SSD that the Editor just posted our review for. We had some fun with for the last few weeks. I will say this...man i would LOVE To endurance test this monster, but i dont have the next ten +++ years!
    i try not to post links, but this is cool stuff guys
    http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/...lc-ssd-review/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computurd View Post
    dudes check this out
    this is from a SSD that the Editor just posted our review for. We had some fun with for the last few weeks. I will say this...man i would LOVE To endurance test this monster, but i dont have the next ten +++ years!
    i try not to post links, but this is cool stuff guys
    http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/...lc-ssd-review/
    That's straight out of Ball-So-Hard University. I heart SLC.

    And indestructible to boot. And it has better SMART data (than most drives). But it's probably not cheap whatsoever. Which is unfortunate. One total failure of the 1xxx series is the 64GB increments though. It's 1000x better than nothing, but still nowhere as useful as it's modern siblings's 1GB steps.

    I wonder how this drive would fare were it using a 2G SF instead of the 1G -- I bet it would be pretty damn awesome too.
    Last edited by Christopher; 04-25-2012 at 04:37 PM.

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    virtually indestructible lol. i think the case could probably take a pretty decent caliber and deflect, or absorb it. this thing is thick like a nickel as they say

    really one of the coolest pieces of tech that Ive been lucky enough to touch, i just cant get over it. i almost had to pry it out with a crowbar that PCB is so secure......im hitting it with a hammer as we speak....


    but wait until you see what we post tomorrow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computurd View Post
    im hitting it with a hammer as we speak....
    Needs moar hammar :P

    But yes, awesome drive. I'd have one in a heartbeat .... screw SATA III.

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    SLC + indeeeestructable = win

    Imagine a hardened Intel X25-E -- a drive which can survive a direct hit from most small arms fire and has 50nm SLC. I think I should retrofit mine with some kind of metallurgical ninja magic.

    It's too bad there isn't more information on the physical limits of "non-ruggedized" SSDs. I have a couple which are built like tanks -- the 3.5" MTRON comes to mind -- but I want one I can run over with a tank. Or install in a tank.

    I'd call my own ruggedized SSD The Intrepid or perhaps, the U.S.S. Intrepid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    I'd call my own ruggedized SSD The Intrepid or perhaps, the U.S.S. Intrepid.
    If they were OCZ they could name them "Titanic", "Bismark" and "Kamikaze".

    Titanic is unsinkable and indestructable as long as it never makes a maiden voyage.
    Bismark indestructable and faster than a Vertex Turbo 4 or even an Intel 520. At some point will start unending loops at boot and sink.
    Kamikaze does 1500Mb/s. Once.
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    You know, the 830 is up to 298MB/s Avg. That's pretty nutty.

    So is the fact that in 904 hours of testing it's put down over 910,000GiB. So it can sorta do a PB every 40 days. That's moderately biblical.
    Last edited by Christopher; 04-26-2012 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
    If they were OCZ they could name them "Titanic", "Bismark" and "Kamikaze".

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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    548.51 TiB
    22603 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 127 to 128
    Available Reserved space: 92
    MWI=156 to 150
    MD5 =OK
    43.49 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    766.6989 TiB
    3269 hours
    Avg speed 73.10 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 175 to 171.
    P/E 13247.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    Only 2 GiB again.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post

    Only 2 GiB again.....
    Considering it's a refurbished drive, that's pretty damn excellent.

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    I know
    I just hope it will last to 1 PiB...
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    I know
    I just hope it will last to 1 PiB...
    Once you escape the surly bonds of MWI, the sky is the limit.

    I wouldn't retention test that thing until you get to 2PB, but that's just me

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    I don't dare to try if I want to see those number. Better to leave it alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    I don't dare to try if I want to see those number. Better to leave it alone.
    Think positive
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    Samsung 830 256 Day 39

    917464.46 GiB
    896.96 TiB

    295.38 MB/s Average
    911 Hours

    3996 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 1

    0/0 Erase/Program Fail

    OCZ Vertex Turbo 64 Day 57

    416,685.08 GiB
    406.91 GiB
    83.71 MB/s Avg
    1408 hours

    7451 Avg PE count
    -100 MWI

    0/0/0 Read/Program/Erase Fail

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    The Samsung seems to be doing even better than the 1000GiB/hour rate it was doing for some time. In 24 hours it was able to write 25,080GiB.
    Last edited by Christopher; 04-26-2012 at 03:52 PM.

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