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    @ Anvil -- that was just a typo.

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    A new Chart


    Temp, Avg MB/s, Hourly GiB written, Wear Leveling Count, and MWI are all included. I'm using a logarithmic scale. Again, open it in a new tab for your viewing pleasure.

    Speed and temperature are pretty much in lock-step.
    Last edited by Christopher; 04-05-2012 at 12:13 PM.

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    i cant get it to open in another tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computurd View Post
    i cant get it to open in another tab.
    right click > view image
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    If anyone cares, I'd be happy to present the info in some other way.

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    OCZ Octane 128 Day 12

    175520.13 GiB
    159.15 MB/s Average


    Samsung 830 256 Day 19

    407308.33 GiB
    282.14 MB/s Average
    411 Hours

    1793 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 50

    0/0 Erase/Program Fail

    OCZ Vertex Turbo 64 Day 38

    269319.50 GiB
    84.33 MB/s Avg
    912 hours

    4817 Avg PE count
    4 MWI

    0/0/0 Read/Program/Erase Fail

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    The 830 is now at MWI 50 and over 407,000GiB!

    The Vertex Turbo is almost to MWI 1, but really when MWI = 1 it should really be MWI = 50.

    The Cognac FW 1.6 or later puts all MLC PE counts at 5000, even when they should really be 10,000.

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    The Vertex Turbo has made it to 4900 average PE count, or MWI = 2. Min and max are 4068 and 5262 respectively.

    No reallocations just yet, but surely some are bound to be around the corner.


    The Super Sexy Samsung is at 426,502 GiB and 427 hours.

    EDIT
    the VT should hit MWI 0 in about 18 hours from now, but I don't know if it should really be MWI - 0 or MWI - 50.
    Last edited by Christopher; 04-06-2012 at 02:24 PM.

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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    482.80 TiB
    22159 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 25 to 42
    MWI=71 to 68
    MD5 =OK
    43.77 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    656.1356 TiB
    2824 hours
    Avg speed 72.92 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 245 to 233.
    P/E 11386.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    SSDLife Pro stopped working again so you just got CDI this time. The most interesting thing going on is that the Intel got reduced Reserve space as the reallocted sector count is increasing.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Patriot Torqx-2 64GB - Day 51.5

    Drive hours: 1,234 (722 Hours, 512 missing)
    GiB written: 80,752 GiB (78.86 TiB)
    Avg MB/s: 20.10 MB/s
    MD5: OK

    Bad blocks: 2/0/83
    Wear cycle counter: 0/5047/7730

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    Intel 520 60GB - Day 42.5

    Drive hours: 1,033
    Avg MB/s: 91.77 MB/s
    MD5: OK

    Host GB written (F1): 321,822.22 GiB (314.28 TiB, 10298311 raw)
    NAND writes (F9): 227,858 GiB (222.52 TiB)

    Reallocated sectors (05): 0
    Failure count (AB, AC): 0 program, 0 erase
    Media Wearout Indicator (E9): 27

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    Just some general comments:

    The torqx 2 seems to be hanging in there. It still can't count hours, but it hasn't suffered cataclysmic problems, nor has speed dropped any. Just wish it was a bit faster because at this rate, I'll still be posting updates on it in a year's time. MD5 checks indicate that it isn't even losing data

    The Intel continues to be boring as hell in its military precision and slow match to its own demise .... how far it goes is anyone's guess ... the NAND isn't showing any signs of disfunction. The intel 520 will probably go like many of the other drives ... by forgetting its contents one day during after a retention test.

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    My SSDlife stopped working too. When the VT hit MWI 0, it stopped updating. I restarted it, and now I get an improper argument error. Deleting the data file would probably solve the issue for me. I just need the program because its easier to take screenshots remotely on a touchscreen device with the screen capture button.

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    I got the same problem. The program is just blank but I'm able to take screenshots with teamviewer so I'll use CDI until I'm home next week.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    I'll delete the info file for SSDlife and report back.

    The VT is still without a reallocation after 5100 PE cycles (almost). however, bit errors seem to have increased.
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    see attributes CA and CB.

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    Same as I got on the first m4 the last 100 TiB of writing but it had over 12000 P/E.
    It'll be exciting to see if it increases steadily or accelerate as you burn P/E.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    I really like the Turbo's performance so far. It's looking like a completely different drive than the first one I put up, likely due to the first drive having some questionable quality flash.

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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    485.60 TiB
    22178hours
    Reallocated sectors : 42 to 50
    Available Reserved space: 97 to 96
    MWI=68 to 67
    MD5 =OK
    43.70 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    660.8916 TiB
    2844 hours
    Avg speed 74.50 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 233 to 230.
    P/E 11467.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    I restartet ASU on the m4 on accident but everything runs fine.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    The most interesting aspect of the Vertex4 is it's 128bit ECC. I wonder how it would fare in the endurance test.

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    Do they come in 60 GB flavors?
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    489.33 TiB
    22204 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 50 to 55
    Available Reserved space: 96
    MWI=67 to 66
    MD5 =OK
    43.61 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    667.4546 TiB
    2869 hours
    Avg speed 74.52 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 230 to 227.
    P/E 11578.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    Only 100 TiB until last m4 record is broken
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    Do they come in 60 GB flavors?
    Nope. 128, 256, and 512.

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    Kingston SSDNow 40GB (X25-V)

    860.08TB Host writes
    Reallocated sectors : 05 41 // 1 up
    Available Reserved Space : E8 99
    POH 7729
    MD5 OK

    33.38MiB/s on avg (~141 hours)

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    I'm expecting Available Reserved Space [E8] to start decreasing. (as is the case on B.A.T's X25-M, no signs of that yet)

    The drive will be offline until tonight, so it will be sort of a retention test. (it's just ~12 hours)
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    Do they come in 60 GB flavors?
    I wouldn't bother gettting the Petrol version. It is using Hynix H27UCG8T2MYR-BC and it appears to have a problem retaining data.

    Post 7 onwards.
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...028#post723028

    (and there are plenty of other threads about bad blocks and data corruption, so I don’t think this is an isolated case).
    Last edited by Ao1; 04-10-2012 at 05:06 AM.

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    Patriot Torqx-2 64GB - Day 54

    Drive hours: 1,293 (722 Hours, 512 missing)
    GiB written: 84,912 GiB (78.86 TiB)
    Avg MB/s: 19.90 MB/s
    MD5: OK

    Bad blocks: 2 grown, 83 factory
    Wear cycle counter: 5307 average erase cycles, 8133 maximum erase cycles.

    Intel 520 60GB - Day 45

    Drive hours: 1,092
    Avg MB/s: 91.91 MB/s
    MD5: OK

    Host GB written (F1): 341,292.12 GiB (333.29 TiB, 10921348 raw)
    NAND writes (F9): 241,644 GiB (235.98 TiB)

    Reallocated sectors (05): 0
    Failure count (AB, AC): 0 program, 0 erase
    Media Wearout Indicator (E9): 22

    Notes:

    I have confirmation from Patriot on how to decode the smart values from the Torqx 2 - http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/...0808#post50808

    Looks like the Torqx 2 has fairly high WA in this torture test, which would explain it's low speeds.

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    Endurance_cr_20120410.png

    @christopher

    Did you record GiB written when WMI changed to 0?
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    Todays update:

    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    493.02 TiB
    22230 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 55 to 64
    Available Reserved space: 96
    MWI=66 to 65
    MD5 =OK
    43.51 MiB/s on avg


    m4
    673.9973 TiB
    2895 hours
    Avg speed 74.50 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 227 to 223.
    P/E 11689.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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