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    The throughput looks very stable on all your drives.

    Do they vary much during a loop?
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    Todays update:

    m4
    832.7410 TiB
    3530 hours
    Avg speed 74.48 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 137 to 134.
    P/E 14359.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    587.72 TiB
    22863 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 151 to 152
    Available Reserved space: 90
    MWI=124
    MD5 =OK
    45.20 MiB/s on avg
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Samsung 830 256 Day 50

    1,188,765.36 GiB
    1,160.90 TiB

    297.09
    MB/s Average
    1175 Hours

    5167 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 1

    2/0 Erase/Program Fail
    Used Reserved Block Count: 4/8192 sectors

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    OCZ Vertex Turbo 64 Day 67

    474,463.19 GiB
    463.34 TiB

    85.24
    MB/s Avg
    1688 hours

    8477 Avg PE count
    -100 MWI

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    The 830 finally popped some blocks.... I'll dig through the data to see when exactly.

    While I was away over the weekend, I had trouble getting in touch with the E-Rig. When I got back and looked, the VT was doing .02MB/s and the average had dropped to 47MB/s. I stopped and restarted it, and it seems to be fine now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    The throughput looks very stable on all your drives.

    Do they vary much during a loop?
    Definitely.

    The Intel 520 is definitely the most stable though, usually always running at about 103meg per sec in the loop.

    The Torqx 2 is all over the place. (20meg per sec to 60meg per sec) Ussually faster at the beginning of the loop for a gig or so.

    The Vertex 4 is mostly 182meg or so per sec during the loops, but slows significantly once free drive space falls below about 8gig or so. My average is probably so low because of the large amount of static data I am using meaning loops are shorter.

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    A small teaser of what I'll get in the mail next week


    By the way, it's a 64GB flavour.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    My best guess would be the

    Kingston SSDNow E Series SNE125-S2 64GB

    Should be very interesting if that is the case.
    (being an SLC it could literally last forever)

    BTW, the price makes me wan't one, I paid close to 2x for the Intel X25-E 32GB. (a few years ago)
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    And you are correct

    There are only a couple left now at around 2K NOK.

    Here and here
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Looks like one of the stores are already out of stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    And you are correct

    There are only a couple left now at around 2K NOK.

    Here and here
    Oooohhh! I'm so jealous!

    I did get a 32GB X25-E for $45 not too long ago, so I can't complain all that much.

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    My 64 cost me 350$ so you got a good deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil View Post
    Looks like one of the stores are already out of stock
    I see you are a quick draw
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    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Interesting news:

    Seems the Patriot Torqx 2 is dead. It crashed when I upgraded the vertex 4 firmware.

    Reporting CRC errors and saying drive unformatted. Will try a secure erase before declaring complete death though, but not expecting much.

    On that note, I'm playing with the new vertex 4 firmware. In some ways it is impressive, in others, it is a setback. For my 55 gig endurance run, I get about 27gig written at about 375meg per sec, and the other 27gig at about 100 gig per sec.

    Hopefully, OCZ can get this firmware working a bit more consistently before releasing 1.4 proper, but it has promise.
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    Looks like it's joining the heard of dead ssd.
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by canthearu View Post
    Interesting news:

    Seems the Patriot Torqx 2 is dead. It crashed when I upgraded the vertex 4 firmware.
    ...
    Hopefully, OCZ can get this firmware working a bit more consistently before releasing 1.4 proper, but it has promise.
    I usually disconnect all other drives when performing fw upgrades, let's just say that I had a few odd experiences that lead to data loss on other drives.

    I ordered a V4 along with the SLC, I need to check out that drive
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    The 830 is a monster. Hopefully I made a good decision to stripe 8 of them (256GB) on this 1880ix-24.

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    B.A.T.

    You can't seriously be thinking of throwing an X25-E in your endurance rig... 80GB of 50nm SLC, OP'd to 59GB. If you're lucky, in year 5 your power supply will short it out. If not... I mean, unless you're running full span random 4K's, I don't think you stand a chance

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    Samsung 830 256 Day 51

    1,214,643.37 GiB
    1,186.17 TiB

    296.25 MB/s Average
    1200 Hours

    5279 Wear Leveling Count
    MWI 1

    2/0 Erase/Program Fail
    Total Used Block Count 4
    Reallocated Sectors 8192




    OCZ Vertex Turbo 64 Day 68

    481,958.16 GiB
    477.66 TiB

    85.10 MB/s Avg
    1693 hours

    8611 Avg PE count
    -100 MWI

    0/0/0 Read/Program/Erase Fail

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    If the Vertex Turbo's firmware was still set for 10,000PE based MWI, it would still be at 24MWI.

    The 830 just hit 1200 hours of testing, so 1,214,600GiB in 1200 hours is nothing to sneeze at.

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    Oh yes. Been at it for 10 months now and if it's impossible to breake I'll just put it in my foldingrig

    Todays update:

    m4
    839.9220 TiB
    3558 hours
    Avg speed 74.50 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 134 to 130.
    P/E 14480.
    MD5 OK.
    Reallocated sectors : 00


    Intel X25-M G1 80GB
    592.11 TiB
    22891 hours
    Reallocated sectors : 152 to 153
    Available Reserved space: 90
    MWI=124
    MD5 =OK
    45.23 MiB/s on avg
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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    The way I figure it, you'd be able to avg around 160MB/s with a 32GB X25-E, or 13.5TB a day. That works out to 337.5x drive capacity (based on the 40GB of SLC onboard) a day. That means it would only take ~296 days to exhaust MWI. If the drive died exactly at MWI 1, then that would be do-able.

    But I don't think it would work like that. If the X25-V can make it to 25,000PE cycles, why can't the X25-E make it to 500,000? Or 750,000? I think that 50nm SLC will pretty much last forever unless you're placing it under absurdly high WA full-span conditions.

    Now double the amount of flash, but keep the same avg. speed... almost two years to MWI 1.



    The man who decides to endurance test an X25-E would officially be known as the bravest man to walk the Earth.

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    But keep in mind the controller doesn't support trim so the WA will be higher than X25-V/M G2 during normal endurance testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    But keep in mind the controller doesn't support trim so the WA will be higher than X25-V/M G2 during normal endurance testing.
    True, but the OP really helps. I don't think the E's suffer much from the lack of TRIM. Maybe I should do some testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    The man who decides to endurance test an X25-E would officially be known as the bravest man to walk the Earth.
    I think I'll quote you on that and one, frame it and hang it on my office wall
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    I think I'll quote you on that and one, frame it and hang it on my office wall
    B.A.T.: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

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    Lot of fun around here....

    We gonna need to change the graph beyond 1400 soonish. The Samsung is looking to go where no drive has gone before and will ever go: 2PiB and beyond. I see no indications of any kind of distress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    B.A.T.: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
    Sounds like I need some kind of cape
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
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