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    Question Raid0 and TRIM Support on Intel 11.5 OROM and Latest v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers ?

    Been a while since i posted anything on this part of the forum , some people are reporting using Latest Intel Raid OROM 11.5 and Latest v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers are saying that they are getting TRIM support while using Raid0 on Intel ICHR10 , on X58 boards , Z68 ,Z77 and X79 ??? Can someone here confirm this for me , i do not know what to believe anymore , as far as i know Intel on its last Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 11.5.0.1109 Alpha Version Release Notes dated August 11 , 2011. State " This release will not enable the TRIM on RAID0 feature, but it will be added in the next RST 11.5 release "

    http://www.station-drivers.com/telec.../sata/11.5.htm
    http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-ra...ore/14638.html
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5136/i...ort-for-raid-0


    Now We have That next release driver the Intel talked about out in the wild wich its version v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers , my question is does it enable Trim over Raid0 yes or no ? Does it work in both OS Windos 8 and Windows 7 ? If anyone has a definite answer with data and proff please share your findings , Thanks in advance

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    Afaik it will require Windows 8 to implement trim for raided drives...I'm sure someone else can indulge further, bed time...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chispy View Post
    Been a while since i posted anything on this part of the forum , some people are reporting using Latest Intel Raid OROM 11.5 and Latest v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers are saying that they are getting TRIM support while using Raid0 on Intel ICHR10 , on X58 boards , Z68 ,Z77 and X79 ??? Can someone here confirm this for me , i do not know what to believe anymore , as far as i know Intel on its last Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 11.5.0.1109 Alpha Version Release Notes dated August 11 , 2011. State " This release will not enable the TRIM on RAID0 feature, but it will be added in the next RST 11.5 release "

    http://www.station-drivers.com/telec.../sata/11.5.htm
    http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-ra...ore/14638.html
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5136/i...ort-for-raid-0


    Now We have That next release driver the Intel talked about out in the wild wich its version v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers , my question is does it enable Trim over Raid0 yes or no ? Does it work in both OS Windos 8 and Windows 7 ? If anyone has a definite answer with data and proff please share your findings , Thanks in advance
    chipsy i tried the latest beta and where crap i got BSOD while trying to open SSD toolbox and got me mad

    and W8 keep locking on me so im just on the safe side using W7x64 and stable raid drivers dont want more backups, rebuilds, reinstalls

    im using this

    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 11.1.0.1006 RAID

    theres new ones but dont say raid so i dont know if its better to install those or the ones i have

    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 11.5.0.1001 WHQL
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    Gracias my old friend i was about to use a moded Bios with Intel 11.5 OROM and those 11.5 RST Drivers , glad i asked here first , all i want is Trim for my aging x58 Rampage 3 eXtreme Raid0 ICHR10 Set up.

    As of right now im using a Moded Bios with intel OROM Option 11.2 and Intel RST Drivers 11.2 on my ICHR10 controller and i got a little boost in performance with this moded Bios and updated OROM for Raid , on my raid0 2x Samsung 128GB Raid0.

    this is the most i can get out of the old ICHR10 with my set up.




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    By chispy at 2012-07-12

    Im trying to keep this Rig for a little longer , thtas why im trying to max everything out of it. Again Thank You Sergio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chispy View Post
    Gracias my old friend i was about to use a moded Bios with Intel 11.5 OROM and those 11.5 RST Drivers , glad i asked here first , all i want is Trim for my aging x58 Rampage 3 eXtreme Raid0 ICHR10 Set up.

    As of right now im using a Moded Bios with intel OROM Option 11.2 and Intel RST Drivers 11.2 on my ICHR10 controller and i got a little boost in performance with this moded Bios and updated OROM for Raid , on my raid0 2x Samsung 128GB Raid0.

    this is the most i can get out of the old ICHR10 with my set up.




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    By chispy at 2012-07-12

    Im trying to keep this Rig for a little longer , thtas why im trying to max everything out of it. Again Thank You Sergio.
    Un Placer ayudarte Chispy

    this is what i got on my RAID0 of 2x intel SSD series 520



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    Apparently for TRIM to work in a RAID volume on an Intel SATA controller you must meet all of the following requirements:

    1. Windows 8

    2. SSD's must have ATA8-ACS support

    3. BIOS with supported Intel Option ROM (latest OROM's are v11.5.0.1414, v11.2.0.1527 and Enterprise v3.1.0.2101)

    4. Intel RST driver (for Windows 8) that sends an UNMAP SCSI command (latest driver's are v11.5.0.1184 Beta and Enterprise v3.1.0.1085)

    I had been looking forward to this for the last couple of years but unfortunately I have four Intel X25-m G2's which don't have ATA8-ACS support.
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    thanks for the info guys , i will do some more research on this matter and if I find anything good out of it i will post it here.

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    11.5 raid rom for x79 has shown it's face on station drivers, lots of good comments so far about w8.

    http://www.station-drivers.com/index.html

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    double post, sorry, can someone delete please
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    Quote Originally Posted by chispy View Post
    Now We have That next release driver the Intel talked about out in the wild wich its version v11.5.0.1184 RST Drivers , my question is does it enable Trim over Raid0 yes or no ? Does it work in both OS Windos 8 and Windows 7 ? If anyone has a definite answer with data and proff please share your findings ,
    Maybe your questions will be answered by my report, which has been published >here<.

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    As much as I'd love to have trim for my array(s)....is that enough to get me to switch to Win8? Thus far I don't think so. Biggest reason is that SF controllers seem to do a decent looking after themselves even without trim.
    So far I have a funny feeling that they'll have to pry Win7 out of my cold, dead and clinched hands.
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    win8 still locks up and freezes i installed 5 times, and diff mobo, chip,

    i put latest nvidia for W8, HD and all drivers and freezes randomly, like a zillion post from user reporting the same

    so the idea of moving for W8 just for trim no way

    tales 10 minues to recover the image from acronis and will do alignment perfect instead of trim, and of course if before you do hdderase o partedmagic and erase your SSD will be as new and aligned


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    btw it is possible to update the ROM for RAID on the BIOS to latest Intel® RAID ROM 11.5.0.1414 in that case how i do it and will work with W7 ?

    thanks !
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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    btw it is possible to update the ROM for RAID on the BIOS to latest Intel® RAID ROM 11.5.0.1414 in that case how i do it and will work with W7 ?
    1. Yes, it is possible to update the Intel RAID ROM version of the mainboard BIOS.
    2. I have written a tutorial about how to do it. You can find it >here<.
    3. The updated PCI ROM modules will work with each Windows Operating System (XP, Win7, Win8 etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernando View Post
    1. Yes, it is possible to update the Intel RAID ROM version of the mainboard BIOS.
    2. I have written a tutorial about how to do it. You can find it >here<.
    3. The updated PCI ROM modules will work with each Windows Operating System (XP, Win7, Win8 etc.).
    thanks Fernando u think this Intel® RAID ROM 11.5.0.1414 will work with W7x64 ? and latest drivers 11.5.XXX ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    u think this Intel® RAID ROM 11.5.0.1414 will work with W7x64 ? and latest drivers 11.5.XXX ??
    On my Intel Z68 system with 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD's as RAID0 both nstalled Operating Systems Win7 x64 and Win8 x64 are running fine with the combination Intel RAID ROM v11.5.0.1414 + RSTe drivers v11.5.0.1184.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernando View Post
    On my Intel Z68 system with 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD's as RAID0 both nstalled Operating Systems Win7 x64 and Win8 x64 are running fine with the combination Intel RAID ROM v11.5.0.1414 + RSTe drivers v11.5.0.1184.
    amazing but i see aint easy to replace it im kinda scared to do it i also read i have to replace AHCI ROM as well...i would love to but im off skills to do it


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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    i also read i have to replace AHCI ROM as well...
    No, the Intel AHCI ROM will be updated automaticly after having updated the Intel RAID ROM module.

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    ahh ok

    so what about the device that manual points to i actually have this

    BIOS 0903.cap loaded with the tool




    Now to extract i have 3 devices wich i dont know wich one i have to choose





    if you can help me i appreciatte very much, from where i get that info ? wich device is ? i tried to find it on devices, and intel RST

    Thanks a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by andressergio View Post
    Now to extract i have 3 devices wich i dont know wich one i have to choose
    if you can help me i appreciatte very much, from where i get that info ? wich device is ?
    Please read my tutorial regarding that point.
    You should scroll down the Link-ID box menue. The first 4 letters mean the VendorID (VEN_8086 is Intel) and the second 3 or 4 letters mean the DeviceID (DEV_2822 is the "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller" and DEV_282a is the "Intel(R) Mobile Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller").
    So search for the Link-ID 8086,2822, which is the suitable RAID device for your Z77 desktop system. If you should not find 8086,2822, you can take 8086,282a, which usually is designed for Mobile systems (both devices are using the same ROM module).

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    Thumbs up

    Thank you for all this new information Fernando , apretiate it ! I see you are everywhere Fernando and that's a good thing , your reaching and helping out others , your help its very welcome , Thank You. Question how about older chipset like mine Asus Rampage 3 extreme X58 ? do you know if OROM 11.5 it will work ok on this chipset x58 ? and also latest RST Driver 11.5 ? if you do not know i will give it a try and post results here. Let me know if you have the answer if not ill be the guinea pig and try it on my x58 .

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    Fernando i have share your findings and gave you all the credit you desrve for this finding here: Would you please anwer some guys questions here if possible ? Thank you:

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread....=1#post4366877

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    Yes indeed chispy he opened my eyes on this matter
    Thanks Fernando for the great job
    Saludos desde Uruguay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernando View Post
    Please read my tutorial regarding that point.
    You should scroll down the Link-ID box menue. The first 4 letters mean the VendorID (VEN_8086 is Intel) and the second 3 or 4 letters mean the DeviceID (DEV_2822 is the "Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller" and DEV_282a is the "Intel(R) Mobile Express Chipset SATA RAID Controller").
    So search for the Link-ID 8086,2822, which is the suitable RAID device for your Z77 desktop system. If you should not find 8086,2822, you can take 8086,282a, which usually is designed for Mobile systems (both devices are using the same ROM module).
    Yes im reading and what i show u is the only ids that the program sees on the asus maximus gene 5 so i guess i have to use the 282a as the other doesnt exist


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    Quote Originally Posted by chispy View Post
    Question how about older chipset like mine Asus Rampage 3 extreme X58 ? do you know if OROM 11.5 it will work ok on this chipset x58 ? and also latest RST Driver 11.5 ? if you do not know i will give it a try and post results here. Let me know if you have the answer if not ill be the guinea pig and try it on my x58 .
    Pretty sure using the 11.5 the orom and RST 11.5 driver isn't too hard but it may or may not yield a 'noticeable' difference with the exception of slightly improved benchmarks, it may not be worth the effort but then it might.

    Here is a modded BIOS thread if you wanna read up...

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/forums/25-BIOS-Mods
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