Bleeding XSPC Dual-bay Res for D5... FFFUUU!

[vulcZ]

So my system has been built for a few days now, but I was putting a new desk in my room and setting it up how I wanted before moving my PC over. Since then I've had the PC leak-testing/bleeding and this thing isn't anywhere close to being done! I love the way this reservoir looks, but I'm starting to question it's design. Water (and air-bubbles too!) travel through that little curved tube and straight back into the inlet and cycle their way back into my loop. How the hell am I supposed to bleed this thing?

I did some research and did find a tip that's been working pretty well. I took a piece of tube, cut it in half, and stuff it between the outlet and the inlet like this...



I only had thick tygon tubing so it was a pretty tight fit to get the piece of tubing in there, but it fit, and it worked pretty well. I'm not sure how much flow was restricted, but a lot of the bubbles got out of my loops. Not all, though Any one have any other tips on how to effectively bleed a loop using this res? Gosh had I known it would be this tough I would have gone with something different lol. My loop is in an 800D, and consists of: BayRes+Pump >> 360mm Rad >> Apogee XT >> 120mm Rad >> 5970 EK block >> BayRes+Pump. I'll post a pic later.

[xXGearheadXx]

edit:

Need pics, I may not have understood what you're saying when i posted earlier.

[DarthBeavis]

Too bad. The Danger Den Monsoon bleeds really easy.

[Utnorris]

You have to put something in between the return and the inlet that feeds the pump since the return is directly over it. I used a wide zip tie to basically give the bubbles time to flow to the top. This is with any XSPC res/pump top.

Yes, the Monsoon bleeds easier, but cost is almost three times as much.

[DarthBeavis]

You have to put something in between the return and the inlet that feeds the pump since the return is directly over it. I used a wide zip tie to basically give the bubbles time to flow to the top. This is with any XSPC res/pump top.

Yes, the Monsoon bleeds easier, but cost is almost three times as much.

two things in life you should not scrimp on when it comes to cost
1. water-cooling
2. hookers

[Utnorris]

I don't know about hookers DB, Vegas has some really cheap, but effective ones.

[NaeKuh]

two things in life you should not scrimp on when it comes to cost
1. water-cooling
2. hookers

wut no cheap alcohol included in that list?

[vulcZ]

I have it going pretty well now, but when I install my new video card I'm going to have to re-fill and re-bleed my loop, which quite frankly I'm not looking forward to. I might just sell the XSPC and go with a monsoon since I'm already way over my initial WC'ing budget

[NaeKuh]

i hate bay res's after playing around with 2 of them for 2 weeks..

If your going for a res change...

You get everything one wants in a well built tube res...

[vulcZ]

You know what man, that's a damn good point. Is there any good tube res's you'd recommend for my setup? My only real requirement is that it somehow incorporates my D5 pump, since after all that's why I opted for this bay res. I wanted to keep things more "tidy" inside the case. Hopefully I can get myself a good tube res in the ~$100 range.

[penguins]

It reeally doesn't take that much longer bleeding, just get creative.. : ) use those Man Muscles.

[vulcZ]

It reeally doesn't take that much longer bleeding, just get creative.. : ) use those Man Muscles.

I'm not a small guy, but the case is getting pretty damn heavy LOL! The annoying part is that when the PC is turned off, if I tilt it from side to side I can hear the water move inside the radiators -_- so I know there's still air in there.

What's your secret to bleeding with this res?

[Sideroxylon]

Not to be an armchair quarterback but a little research on your part would've showed all the problems people are having with bleeding these things.

If you still want to go with a bay res, I use a dual bay res that's so easy to fill and bleed it's ridiculous. Gives all the functionality you'd expect from a res and cheap too. I fill mine, turn on the pump, it bleeds 98% of the system in about a minute and I don't even have to refill. I leave it about 3/4 full so at a glance I can see fluid level and flow.

Such a shame that a $120 res doesn't give the basic functionality you'd expect from any res. They really screwed the pooch on this one.

[penguins]

I've got the DDC one with the same design. well to tell you the truth, Timing was my secret I guess, Rock the case side to side with the pump on, when I think the bubble is going to get to where i want it, turn off pumps, give it a bumpity bump bump till it comes out. if i stop it and see bubbles i tilt the case till i can move em. it didn't take me 10 minutes, took me a couple hours, but we're talking about bubble free period. and switching between low and high doing the exact same thing.

[zeroibis]

i hate bay res's after playing around with 2 of them for 2 weeks..

If your going for a res change...

You get everything one wants in a well built tube res...

Actually I have found the Swiftech MCRES-MICRO to be awesome. I just run a hose to the top of it and that thing bleeds so easily. Its small size makes it easy to place at the top of a loop so it can be super effective!

As far as beading the rads goes mine have a bleed screw at the top although that does not always get it all. I found what works really well it to just smack the side of the thing repeatedly then to get the really hard ones I flick the grill. Also I have found that putting your phone on vibrate and attaching it to the side of the rad can clear out the stubborn air pockets in a few hours.

[kipling100]

i kinda like the sound of bubbles -- it's relaxing.

[Utnorris]

You know what man, that's a damn good point. Is there any good tube res's you'd recommend for my setup? My only real requirement is that it somehow incorporates my D5 pump, since after all that's why I opted for this bay res. I wanted to keep things more "tidy" inside the case. Hopefully I can get myself a good tube res in the ~$100 range.

Get the Koolance D5 top and the Koolance res tube that attaches to it. Guarantee that will not have any issues bleeding. I also like dual bay res', but if you are trying to keep it as an all in one solution, then go with the Koolance setup.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26481

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29833

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29831

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29836

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29829

Roughly $95 for the whole thing and you will not have any issues bleeding it.

[coolhandluke41]

Get the Koolance D5 top and the Koolance res tube that attaches to it. Guarantee that will not have any issues bleeding. I also like dual bay res', but if you are trying to keep it as an all in one solution, then go with the Koolance setup.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26481

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29833

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29831

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29836

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29829

Roughly $95 for the whole thing and you will not have any issues bleeding it.

I think the top is for 60MM tube

[matari]

In terms of effective bleeding, nothing beats a Swiftech Micro Reservoir. In my opinion, a distant second is any correctly setup tube reservoir. Most bay reservoirs are just tough to bleed and usually end up as an algae farm. My favorite bay reservoir so far is new version of XSPC single 5.25 bay reservoir. It is not hard to bleed.

[vulcZ]

Get the Koolance D5 top and the Koolance res tube that attaches to it. Guarantee that will not have any issues bleeding. I also like dual bay res', but if you are trying to keep it as an all in one solution, then go with the Koolance setup.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26481

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29833

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29831

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29836

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29829

Roughly $95 for the whole thing and you will not have any issues bleeding it.

Awesome, thanks! I'll probably go with this setup when I replace my graphics card

I got my loop all closed up and system setup and have been running it for a week now. Still not completely bled, haha. A few times I've randomly heard a gurgling sound. Yep, it was air bubbles cycling back into the pump inlet.. /sigh

[NaeKuh]

You know what man, that's a damn good point. Is there any good tube res's you'd recommend for my setup?

ummm incase u didnt know me.. i push koolance a lot.. lol..

But if your looking at tube res's, i love koolances:


They have one for the D5 as well:


Swiftech MCRes is the best compact budget res u can buy also.
Nothing beats that except a well built tube res, because tube res bring bling.

[vulcZ]

ummm incase u didnt know me.. i push koolance a lot.. lol..

They have one for the D5 as well:


Swiftech MCRes is the best compact budget res u can buy also.
Nothing beats that except a well built tube res, because tube res bring bling.

Third edit: I'm an idiot and just realized that you linked everything I needed from PPC's in another post, LOL oops!

One last question, I swear! What's that little square part inside the reservoir, and does what I plan on purchase include that? I didn't see it in any of the pictures, but I'm assuming it's the divider between the inlet and outlet inside the reservoir. I got a bit confused because some sites show a compression fitting INSIDE the actual reservoir O_o

[NaeKuh]

Nevermind, just found it on Koolance's website, which you can also oder from

Also, is 60mm -vs- 80mm just the diameter of the tubing? 80mm = holds more water? Any real benefits to one over the other? Thanks and sorry for the noob questions

its only vol.

with the d5 attachment, barb spacing would be moot.

[Alexandr0s]

One last question, I swear! What's that little square part inside the reservoir, and does what I plan on purchase include that? I didn't see it in any of the pictures, but I'm assuming it's the divider between the inlet and outlet inside the reservoir. I got a bit confused because some sites show a compression fitting INSIDE the actual reservoir O_o

I believe the square is meant as an anti-vortex plate, to prevent vortexes from forming inside your reservoir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvj_4UFanTQ

It can be quite annoying as you can imagine .

[vulcZ]

I believe the square is meant as an anti-vortex plate, to prevent vortexes from forming inside your reservoir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvj_4UFanTQ

It can be quite annoying as you can imagine .

Awww but it looks so cool!

Okay so I'm going to assume the little square comes included with my reservoir (seems like it would be silly if it didn't). Thanks for the clarification!