apple sues samsung for copying their "innovative style"

[saaya]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/a...hone-and-ipad/

Style can be patented too now?

[eric66]

Samsung clearly stole look of ios that is obvious

[BeepBeep2]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/a...hone-and-ipad/

Style can be patented too now?

Pretty soon people will be suing others because they drew a SQUARE the same way as them.

[demonkevy666]

Pretty soon people will be suing others because they drew a SQUARE the same way as them.

lol

it's just a gui screen o.o windows 7 stole the macs gui.

[PrometheusCon]

Whatever happened to imitation being the most sincere form of flattery?

[DeltZ]

Pretty lame.
What does that apple patent actually entail? A ridiculously simple interface consisting of several squares /rectangles?
Intellectual property sure is difficult to regulate.

Not to mention there's nothing remotely "technological" about a rectangle + rectangular screen + square icons being generally a sensible shape for thumb using touch screen interface of which apple would not be the first.

If there's any justice in the world and that it isn't a battleground for immature halfwits...I hope this fails...It's like being spawn camped 5 minutes into a CS round

[MagisD]

So who's going to sure apple and everybody else for making portable computers/laptops......

Seriously, apple lost what little respect I had for them. Considering half there design ideas are stolen.
But as there the patent kings and would patent people sneezing if they could.

I've seen designs for an ipad type device 20 years ago in star trek, they should sue.

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[phantomferrari]

and this is a clear example that the U.S patent system needs a complete overhaul. the fact that Apple was allowed to file such a frivolous lawsuit is just plain sad

[zanzabar]

and this is a clear example that the U.S patent system needs a complete overhaul. the fact that Apple was allowed to file such a frivolous lawsuit is just plain sad

they did win that u cannot have round edged on a wall mounted ac psu, so who knows who will win this but since its apple they files in the bay area im guessing so they basically just get free money since the judges are owned by apple.

[Serra]

You know, there actually is something to be said for this lawsuit. If there is one thing that Apple does really well is extensive R&D on usage and aesthetics, and - let's all be honest here - their claim about a very similar look and feel is accurate. Samsung (and the rest of the Android crowd) really are riding off the time/money Apple spent developing their system. It seems obvious to use icons the way they are used, but there wasn't really anything like it before the iPhone. Is it really so different from profiting off someone else's R&D in materials or circuit design?

With that said, I will also hope that the lawsuit is unsuccessful. I think it is obvious that there is some borrowing going on, but it's not a full-on carbon copy and allowing lawsuits with increasingly abstract similarities takes one down a rocky path.

[Bobsama]

Black background and shiny icons. I've had that since Windows 95. I'm suing Apple for stealing that from me.

[MagisD]

You know, there actually is something to be said for this lawsuit. If there is one thing that Apple does really well is extensive R&D on usage and aesthetics, and - let's all be honest here - their claim about a very similar look and feel is accurate. Samsung (and the rest of the Android crowd) really are riding off the time/money Apple spent developing their system. It seems obvious to use icons the way they are used, but there wasn't really anything like it before the iPhone. Is it really so different from profiting off someone else's R&D in materials or circuit design?

With that said, I will also hope that the lawsuit is unsuccessful. I think it is obvious that there is some borrowing going on, but it's not a full-on carbon copy and allowing lawsuits with increasingly abstract similarities takes one down a rocky path.

So ms sues apple for using icons on a smartphone os.


It's really simple apple hasn't had an original idea. They simply refine and patent somebody else's. Mac os, version of linux. They refined a user friendly mp3 player. They looked at win moblie and symbion and made a user friendly version.

I have yet to see an original product
From apple. That succeeded.

They simply refined a type of product, do they deserve patent s on there work yes. But trying to patent a whole class of products, when they copied the orginal product is just dirty.

If samsung was using there os, I could see a case. If they were duplicating the hardware I could see it. It's different os on different hardware on a similar style of phone.

Apples got nothing left, android meets and bests it. Hardware is caught up and surpassing it.

They have no legs to stand on to fight the compatition so has to resort to fictitious law suits.

They got early market share which was huge for them and the markets.

But there business model they saved themselves with, with the ipod isn't gona cut it anymore. People are smarter consumers, and business don't like being screwed over so they look for alternates.

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[zanzabar]

You know, there actually is something to be said for this lawsuit. If there is one thing that Apple does really well is extensive R&D on usage and aesthetics, and - let's all be honest here - their claim about a very similar look and feel is accurate. Samsung (and the rest of the Android crowd) really are riding off the time/money Apple spent developing their system. It seems obvious to use icons the way they are used, but there wasn't really anything like it before the iPhone. Is it really so different from profiting off someone else's R&D in materials or circuit design?

With that said, I will also hope that the lawsuit is unsuccessful. I think it is obvious that there is some borrowing going on, but it's not a full-on carbon copy and allowing lawsuits with increasingly abstract similarities takes one down a rocky path.

but its the same UI as windows mobile, just with squares instead of rectangles, and thats the same UI that many desktops had just with phone stuff added to the bottom. it just seams frivolous to me since its the same UI on every other device, and on the device its self what are u supposed to do with a bar style phone thats different than the other phones, are they supposed to just not have the connector on the bottom since it was on the side before (and the bottom on other non smartphones)

So ms sues apple for using icons on a smartphone os.


It's really simple apple hasn't had an original idea. They simply refine and patent somebody else's. Mac os, version of linux. They refined a user friendly mp3 player. They looked at win moblie and symbion and made a user friendly version.

I have yet to see an original product
From apple. That succeeded.

They simply refined a type of product, do they deserve patent s on there work yes. But trying to patent a whole class of products, when they copied the orginal product is just dirty.



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u mean that they stole the music match AI then settled out for MM to be the only windows store for the ipod and to pay royalties to them, but then they backed out and MM slowly died from a lack of capital until yahoo bought and killed it then sold the IP to real. and for the mp3 device they stole it from creative with the layout and even menu/hierarchy names and payed royalties affter loosing in court but then sued creative for using creatives AI and won.

[Serra]

It's really simple apple hasn't had an original idea. They simply refine and patent somebody else's. Mac os, version of linux. They refined a user friendly mp3 player. They looked at win moblie and symbion and made a user friendly version.

I have yet to see an original product
From apple. That succeeded.

but its the same UI as windows mobile, just with squares instead of rectangles, and thats the same UI that many desktops had just with phone stuff added to the bottom.

Keeping in mind that - again - I don't want to see Apple win this...

What idea did they copy for the look and feel of the iPhone? I had blackberries and Windows-based phones before the iPhone came out, and I can honestly say there was 0% similarity between them. They all had list-based/menu-based systems, or in the case of Windows 6.x a bar on the bottom that you scrolled through.

Are icons simple? Yes, obviously so. But oddly no-one else had thought to go to an icon-only model, and it was wildly successful. Windows got the "don't copy Apple" idea and went with something similar but slightly different with their Windows Phone 7... but on the other side Android did pretty much just grab the look and feel.


AGAIN - I have many other reasons I don't want them to win, but I wouldn't actually be disappointed in Samsung if they took an out-of-court settlement and paid for the portion of R&D that Apple did on this one which their products are riding.


Edit: To add additional clarity, I just ordered a new Android phone today and have never owned an iPhone or any other Apple product (I boycott the company)... no fanboyism here.

[MagisD]

I agree with you, like I said apple refined a design, htc skins on win moblie. Custom versions of symbian. The gui/icon style was there before apple.

apple design idea wasn't new, they idiot proofed and patented it.

suing somebody else for ideas you stole in the first place is just dirty, I used to have respect for them bringing it to the next level and pushing. They had great design but what there doing now is wrong.

They have nothing to shine with, ipad 2 is minor upgrade, the smart cover is a direct rip off if another company. Iphone 4 wa s a decent upgrade but 5 looks to be nothing
But a camera upgrade.

There dead in the water atm, and there restrictive business practices make everybody look for alternates.

If android hadn't come along they would of been fine, the other os's were email or geek centric. But as it is android's outpacing them and software dev's are coveting there bases with both. Which means that theres less and less reason to pick an I device. The user experince is just as good without the apple rules shoved down your throat.

their only option is to fight dirty instead of standing by there product and going toe to toe.

And I have owned, almost everything except a blackberry and I used to sell those. I still dont own a tablet they haven't reached the point of maturity I want yet. But I've been pushing ultra moblie/ tablets since the origami/umpc/ samsung q1 days. And have, a real computer tablet.


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[M.Beier]

Well, Apple is just making sure to find the money after stock dropped?
I think Steve should look into the market of stealing from disabled kids too.

[Tomasis]

apple will sue me when im shi**ting . because they did that first.

seriously, it is pretty lame. new lowest level of behavior.

[TheBreezyBB]

Didn't apple steal the same design from LG Prada phone?!! Oh, the Irony...

[Nikolasz]

Womans and old men who dont know computers in court when verdict will be announced make apple win.

[Nikolasz]

Pretty soon people will be suing others because they drew a SQUARE the same way as them.

Yea, suings for some color and similar shape.

[HuffPCair]

Pretty soon people will be suing others because they drew a SQUARE the same way as them.

I wont be surprised when people sue for having the same name as them.

[Johnny87au]

Pretty lame.
What does that apple patent actually entail? A ridiculously simple interface consisting of several squares /rectangles?
Intellectual property sure is difficult to regulate.

Not to mention there's nothing remotely "technological" about a rectangle + rectangular screen + square icons being generally a sensible shape for thumb using touch screen interface of which apple would not be the first.

If there's any justice in the world and that it isn't a battleground for immature halfwits...I hope this fails...It's like being spawn camped 5 minutes into a CS round

+1, couldnt agree more!

[Wumpus]

apple need to grow up and actually mak an original device with easily patentable things so stuff like this doesn't happen. I also like how apple "takes inspirtation" from other already produced works, refines a little, patents, then sues someone else for doing the same thing....

[sutyi]

Looks like Android sales are hurting, time to sue... bleh.

[Origin_Unknown]

You can see some similarities in the style of the casing on both of the phones but that's about it...

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Apple Sue's other phone companies for using screens