Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 28

Thread: 3Dmark11 Low Physics Score

  1. #1
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364

    3Dmark11 Low Physics Score

    Guy's, anyone know why my physics score is so crap? Should a 4.8Ghz 2600k/HD6950 score more than this?

    Last edited by C-BuZz; 04-16-2011 at 05:27 PM.

  2. #2
    Xtreme Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    511
    im not sure how SB compares to Bloomfield exactly but at 4.2 i7 920 with ht i get 9873 so yes id say its low.

  3. #3
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by InCredible View Post
    im not sure how SB compares to Bloomfield exactly but at 4.2 i7 920 with ht i get 9873 so yes id say its low.
    Ya, I've seen a lot of other SB results getting well over 10k, usually in the 12k bracket for 5Ghz 2600k's.

    Not to sure why it's so low. Vantage & 3D06 are good, just really low physx in 11.

  4. #4
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    241
    If you have any of C-state enabled in bios , that is your problem.
    .:. Obsidian 750D .:. i7 5960X .:. EVGA Titan .:. G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR4 32GB .:. CORSAIR HX850i .:. Asus X99-DELUXE .:. Crucial M4 SSD 512GB .:.

  5. #5
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    If you have any of C-state enabled in bios , that is your problem.
    Cheers, but all are disabled including EIST.

    C-BuZz

  6. #6
    I am Xtreme zanzabar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    SF bay area, CA
    Posts
    15,871
    its physics not physX

    what ram/qpi multi are u running
    5930k, R5E, samsung 8GBx4 d-die, vega 56, wd gold 8TB, wd 4TB red, 2TB raid1 wd blue 5400
    samsung 840 evo 500GB, HP EX 1TB NVME , CM690II, swiftech h220, corsair 750hxi

  7. #7
    I am Xtreme Ket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    6,822
    I'll do a run with my 2500k for comparisons sake. If I remember correctly I got something like 26FPS for the physics test when I last run it. Dunno what that translated to for the retard points system 3DM uses, can't remember.

    "Prowler"
    X570 Tomahawk | R7 3700X | 2x16GB Klevv BoltX @ 3600MHz CL18 | Powercolor 6800XT Red Devil | Xonar DX 7.1 | 2TB Barracuda | 256GB & 512GB Asgard NVMe drives | 2x DVD & Blu-Ray opticals | EVGA Supernova 1000w G2

    Cooling:

    6x 140mm LED fans, 1x 200mm LED fan | Modified CoolerMaster Masterliquid 240

    Asrock Z77 thread! | Asrock Z77 Extreme6 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4/6 Pro3 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Review | Asrock Z68 Gen3 Thread | 8GB G-Skill review | TK 2.ZERO homepage | P5Q series mBIOS thread
    Modded X570 Aorus UEFIs

  8. #8
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    241
    Something must be up with your overclock then , few times that i had lower then expected score is when , i had C-states enabled and or when OC was bad.

    This is mine at only 4300mhz over 10k physics.

    Last edited by -=DVS=-; 04-16-2011 at 07:46 AM.
    .:. Obsidian 750D .:. i7 5960X .:. EVGA Titan .:. G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR4 32GB .:. CORSAIR HX850i .:. Asus X99-DELUXE .:. Crucial M4 SSD 512GB .:.

  9. #9
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    Something must be up with your overclock then , few times that i had lower then expected score is when , i had C-states enabled and or when OC was bad.

    This is mine at only 4300mhz over 10k physics.
    Thanks, this is really freakin me out. This is at 5Ghz, I can prime/linx or whatever it's definitely stable & everything else runs perfectly BESIDES 3D11, where I get a really crap Physics score

  10. #10
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    241
    Maybe your cpu is throttling under load did you try to run Tmonitor while stress testing ?
    .:. Obsidian 750D .:. i7 5960X .:. EVGA Titan .:. G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR4 32GB .:. CORSAIR HX850i .:. Asus X99-DELUXE .:. Crucial M4 SSD 512GB .:.

  11. #11
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    Maybe your cpu is throttling under load did you try to run Tmonitor while stress testing ?
    Doesn't even run


    Here is my 3D06 run for comparison:


    Starting to think there is perhaps a compatibility issue with this particular processor & 3D11. I reset all to default speed & scored around 6k physics lol.
    Last edited by C-BuZz; 04-16-2011 at 07:23 PM.

  12. #12
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    241
    Link to newer version Tmonitor , there can't be compatibility issues not to mention we both have same 2600k sandy as does everyone else.
    If Tmonitor shows no throttling , try reinstalling 3dmark11.
    .:. Obsidian 750D .:. i7 5960X .:. EVGA Titan .:. G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR4 32GB .:. CORSAIR HX850i .:. Asus X99-DELUXE .:. Crucial M4 SSD 512GB .:.

  13. #13
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    1,972
    Yep something strange, i goes to 11450 pnts (36.35fps ) with I7 2600K@5.1ghz

    Try maybe uninstall OpenCL and reinstall a fresh new ? I see something strange on your CPU-Z screenshots, your Vcore, if you had cut all power saving, you should have the "real vcore OC " set. I suspect you run it with SVID only.
    ( the vcore set in auto by the bios )


    ( i have run it again at 5ghz ... got 11'262 / 35.75fps )


    Little question i don't think it should have an impact, but you cut AA, AF, etc for the run ? maybe something too, i know when you run complete test, physics test is set at a fixed resolution, is it the case too when you run separate test ?
    Last edited by Lanek; 04-17-2011 at 10:51 AM.
    CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
    GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
    Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
    RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
    Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0

  14. #14
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    155
    That is very odd, my i5 at 4Ghz scores 7440. So something is definitely up.
    Board: ASUS P7P55D-E
    CPU: i5 750 @ 4Ghz w/Corsair CWCH70
    RAM: 4x 2GB Corsair Dominator sticks at 1600Mhz
    Video: ASUS ATI Radeon 5870
    Case: Lian Li PC75
    PSU: ANTEC 850W
    Linux: Fedora Core 14 x86_64
    Windows: Windows 7 Pro x64 for the odd game.


  15. #15
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    Link to newer version Tmonitor , there can't be compatibility issues not to mention we both have same 2600k sandy as does everyone else.
    If Tmonitor shows no throttling , try reinstalling 3dmark11.
    Tmonitor shows no throttling, I've re-installed 3D11 twice. Even went as far as to download V100 (original unpatched version) & physics was even less !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    Yep something strange, i goes to 11450 pnts (36.35fps ) with I7 2600K@5.1ghz

    Try maybe uninstall OpenCL and reinstall a fresh new ? I see something strange on your CPU-Z screenshots, your Vcore, if you had cut all power saving, you should have the "real vcore OC " set. I suspect you run it with SVID only.
    ( the vcore set in auto by the bios )


    ( i have run it again at 5ghz ... got 11'262 / 35.75fps )


    Little question i don't think it should have an impact, but you cut AA, AF, etc for the run ? maybe something too, i know when you run complete test, physics test is set at a fixed resolution, is it the case too when you run separate test ?
    Hi,

    Vcore is set in bios, I never leave it on auto. No version of Cpuz can ever read my correct vcore even though it is set in bios, 1.45v for 5Ghz.

    Tried no AA/AF, same thing. I've even done a full driver sweep/reinstall just to be sure.

    Fresh installed Win7 a week ago so I'm tearing my hair out trying to figure this out. Thanks for the responses so far

    Vantage cpu score seems spot on @ 4.8Ghz
    Last edited by C-BuZz; 04-18-2011 at 02:57 AM.

  16. #16
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    1,972
    Have you try install the latest APP 2.4SDK ?
    Last edited by Lanek; 04-18-2011 at 01:33 PM.
    CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
    GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
    Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
    RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
    Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0

  17. #17
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    Have you try install the latest APP 2.4SDK ?
    No, why would I need to do this?

  18. #18
    I am Xtreme Ket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    6,822
    Quote Originally Posted by C-BuZz View Post
    Thanks, this is really freakin me out. This is at 5Ghz, I can prime/linx or whatever it's definitely stable & everything else runs perfectly BESIDES 3D11, where I get a really crap Physics score
    Few suggestions;

    - Install latest version of DX (or reinstall, if you installed newest DX already)
    - Your physics score might be out of whack because of the BCLK clock. SB uses a ringbus architecture - simply put everything is linked together (CPU clock, memory clock, PCI-E frequency) so with a high (for SB) BCLK clock you could be throwing things out of whack. Change BCLK to 100.1MHz and hit up a 50x multiplier. Re-test physics score.
    Last edited by Ket; 04-19-2011 at 06:11 AM.

    "Prowler"
    X570 Tomahawk | R7 3700X | 2x16GB Klevv BoltX @ 3600MHz CL18 | Powercolor 6800XT Red Devil | Xonar DX 7.1 | 2TB Barracuda | 256GB & 512GB Asgard NVMe drives | 2x DVD & Blu-Ray opticals | EVGA Supernova 1000w G2

    Cooling:

    6x 140mm LED fans, 1x 200mm LED fan | Modified CoolerMaster Masterliquid 240

    Asrock Z77 thread! | Asrock Z77 Extreme6 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4/6 Pro3 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Review | Asrock Z68 Gen3 Thread | 8GB G-Skill review | TK 2.ZERO homepage | P5Q series mBIOS thread
    Modded X570 Aorus UEFIs

  19. #19
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    1,972
    Quote Originally Posted by C-BuZz View Post
    No, why would I need to do this?
    APP is the new name for ATI AMD Stream SDK, who is the OpenCL accelerated GPU libraries ( or CPU ), as physic in 3Dmark11 use this OpenCL libraries ( + Bullet ), let see if it can solve any conflict you got with it..

    Physic test is only OpenCL Physic by CPU, on second ( combined ) it use both ( GPU and CPU )


    Anyway Ket is maybe right, i have not see you had OC the BCK .
    Last edited by Lanek; 04-19-2011 at 08:00 PM.
    CPU: - I7 4930K (EK Supremacy )
    GPU: - 2x AMD HD7970 flashed GHZ bios ( EK Acetal Nickel Waterblock H2o)
    Motherboard: Asus x79 Deluxe
    RAM: G-skill Ares C9 2133mhz 16GB
    Main Storage: Samsung 840EVO 500GB / 2x Crucial RealSSD C300 Raid0

  20. #20
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by Ket View Post
    Few suggestions;

    - Install latest version of DX (or reinstall, if you installed newest DX already)
    - Your physics score might be out of whack because of the BCLK clock. SB uses a ringbus architecture - simply put everything is linked together (CPU clock, memory clock, PCI-E frequency) so with a high (for SB) BCLK clock you could be throwing things out of whack. Change BCLK to 100.1MHz and hit up a 50x multiplier. Re-test physics score.
    Thanks for the suggestions, DX is as up to date as it can get. Just to add, even with everything running at complete bog stock speeds (nothing overclocked) the physics score is really embarassing for a 2600k.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    APP is the new name for ATI AMD Stream SDK, who is the OpenCL accelerated GPU libraries ( or CPU ), as physic in 3Dmark11 use this OpenCL libraries ( + Bullet ), let see if it can solve any conflict you got with it..

    Physic test is only OpenCL Physic by CPU, on second ( combined ) it use both ( GPU and CPU )

    Anyway Ket is maybe right, i have not see you had OC the BCK .
    Cheers, I'll give it a go & see if anything improves

  21. #21
    I am Xtreme Ket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    6,822
    It might sounds odd, but have you checked to see if all 4 cores are being utilised? Maybe a settings in the UEFI for how many cores are used.

    "Prowler"
    X570 Tomahawk | R7 3700X | 2x16GB Klevv BoltX @ 3600MHz CL18 | Powercolor 6800XT Red Devil | Xonar DX 7.1 | 2TB Barracuda | 256GB & 512GB Asgard NVMe drives | 2x DVD & Blu-Ray opticals | EVGA Supernova 1000w G2

    Cooling:

    6x 140mm LED fans, 1x 200mm LED fan | Modified CoolerMaster Masterliquid 240

    Asrock Z77 thread! | Asrock Z77 Extreme6 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4/6 Pro3 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Review | Asrock Z68 Gen3 Thread | 8GB G-Skill review | TK 2.ZERO homepage | P5Q series mBIOS thread
    Modded X570 Aorus UEFIs

  22. #22
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by Ket View Post
    It might sounds odd, but have you checked to see if all 4 cores are being utilised? Maybe a settings in the UEFI for how many cores are used.
    Hi Mate,

    Yes they are all definitely being used.

  23. #23
    I am Xtreme Ket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    6,822
    Thats really weird. If that 26.10 I see in the 3D11 window is the FPS your CPU gets in the physics test, its way low. I tested my 2500k @ 4.6GHz earlier and it topped out at about 28.8FPS. Only thing I can think of ATM if you haven't done it already is update your UEFI / BIOS to the latest there is, do a full CMOS reset (remove power cord, battery, and set CMOS jumper to "clear") leave for a few mins, press power button 2-3 times (discharges capacitors) then start from scratch and see if you get the same problem. It might also be worth checking that your memory is 100% stable as the IMC is also built onto the SB die as well now so any instability in the memory / CPU could effect the physics score. Can you tell if your physics score is about right when everything is stock? If it is, theres deffinately some instability going on with the CPU/IMC/memory when its all OCd, if scores still aren't right even at stock... my guess would be a software problem and a format may be required to get things back to normal.
    Last edited by Ket; 04-21-2011 at 04:22 PM.

    "Prowler"
    X570 Tomahawk | R7 3700X | 2x16GB Klevv BoltX @ 3600MHz CL18 | Powercolor 6800XT Red Devil | Xonar DX 7.1 | 2TB Barracuda | 256GB & 512GB Asgard NVMe drives | 2x DVD & Blu-Ray opticals | EVGA Supernova 1000w G2

    Cooling:

    6x 140mm LED fans, 1x 200mm LED fan | Modified CoolerMaster Masterliquid 240

    Asrock Z77 thread! | Asrock Z77 Extreme6 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4 Review | Asrock P67 Extreme4/6 Pro3 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 thread | Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Review | Asrock Z68 Gen3 Thread | 8GB G-Skill review | TK 2.ZERO homepage | P5Q series mBIOS thread
    Modded X570 Aorus UEFIs

  24. #24
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    Quote Originally Posted by Ket View Post
    Thats really weird. If that 26.10 I see in the 3D11 window is the FPS your CPU gets in the physics test, its way low. I tested my 2500k @ 4.6GHz earlier and it topped out at about 28.8FPS. Only thing I can think of ATM if you haven't done it already is update your UEFI / BIOS to the latest there is, do a full CMOS reset (remove power cord, battery, and set CMOS jumper to "clear") leave for a few mins, press power button 2-3 times (discharges capacitors) then start from scratch and see if you get the same problem. It might also be worth checking that your memory is 100% stable as the IMC is also built onto the SB die as well now so any instability in the memory / CPU could effect the physics score. Can you tell if your physics score is about right when everything is stock? If it is, theres deffinately some instability going on with the CPU/IMC/memory when its all OCd, if scores still aren't right even at stock... my guess would be a software problem and a format may be required to get things back to normal.
    I did a run with everything at complete stock, nothing overclocked & physics was around 6k mark

    Thanks for the tips, I'm starting to thing it's a software issue somewhere & a format may be required.

  25. #25
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    364
    SORTED! Wow what a mission, memory was running single channel mode Because I had slots 1,2 populated which I assumed was the correct positioning for Dual channel looking at my mobo manual, instead of slots 1,3.

    The weird thing is I did not pick up on the because cpuz would not read the mode or the correct memory timings, so I had no idea it was running single channel.

    Only way I can tell if it's running dual is Aida64 reading.


    Single channel memory read was 14k, so it's improved a lot in dual channel.

    EDIT: Thanks for all the responses & troubleshooting assistance, much appreciated
    Last edited by C-BuZz; 04-22-2011 at 01:12 AM.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •